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Post by Dracula on Jun 7, 2024 14:15:42 GMT -5
Rent control is bad policy. It's been proven counter-effective over and over but it keeps coming back out of misguided populism.
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Post by frankyt on Jun 7, 2024 14:16:58 GMT -5
Well the recent FBI raid shows the 'free' market has failed completely in the last few years.
There has to be some solution.
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Post by Nilade on Jun 13, 2024 19:42:05 GMT -5
I lived in a rent controlled apartment off of Cochran and 6th in Miracle Mile in LA. Every 5th building was rent controlled. At the time, I was renting spacious studio that I would never been able to afford without the rent control. This was in 2009.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 14, 2024 5:44:29 GMT -5
Only solution is building more housing. Luxury housing, affordable housing, 6 apt building in residential areas. Zoning laws need to change and people need to get over their NIMBYism or housing prices will continue to skyrocket.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 14, 2024 7:16:18 GMT -5
people need to get over their NIMBYism Is that code for gentrification? There’s plenty of “housing” but are we catering to the needs of the community? This also leads to a second point I want to make. Overpopulation. Too many people are concentrated into specific areas. We need to spread people out, by not only creating affordable housing, but also thriving communities. I know a lot of people that moved to economical neighborhoods, but are then stuck in the middle of nowhere. Everyone already spends 40-60 minutes in traffic everyday. Now you gotta add more distance to that cause you can’t afford to live where you work? Fuck that.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 14, 2024 11:37:07 GMT -5
people need to get over their NIMBYism This also leads to a second point I want to make. Overpopulation. Too many people are concentrated into specific areas. We need to spread people out, by not only creating affordable housing, but also thriving communities. That's where remote work comes in. I'm actually amazed that so many young people are able to survive in Los Angeles. I can't imagine that they're able to put any money away whatsoever unless they're fortunate enough to be living with mom and dad. That doesn't even mention the other folks who aren't making 100K a year, a lot of them live on the outskirts of LA county or even neighboring Riverside county, commuting 1-2 hours a day in traffic each way. Over time I imagine things will build out that direction more as rents continue to increase in one of the least affordable housing markets in the country but for now the best way for people looking to buy an affordable home is to move. People are demanding more and more remote/hybrid work and it's hard to justify to idiot management that people should 'come on back in' when 60% or more of their income is going to shit housing. Also, when it comes to places like Los Angeles or the Bay area, there are only so many directions you can go when developing new housing. You can find cheaper housing when you go inland but it's hot, it's away from the higher paying jobs, there's not much other than desert (fun fact: Breaking Bad was originally written to be set in Riverside County which is a huge meth hub but they relocated to Albuquerque due to the production incentives). The Bay area is also pretty landlocked so you can't really build out. The rest of California believe it or not is kind of shit. I was just driving through Mono and Inyo counties last weekend and there's a whoooooooole lotta nothing except a burned out trailer or shell of a broken down car every few miles. Hand painted 'Jerky 4 sale' signs are sprinkled in there too.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 14, 2024 12:10:09 GMT -5
Had some of that jerky when I was at Dana's cousin's graduation in Chico.
Don't knock it until you try it.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 14, 2024 12:41:53 GMT -5
skink was hanging in Chico.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 14, 2024 14:55:13 GMT -5
skink was hanging in Chico. Next time we're in CA for a national park, I'll try and make your area happen. Los Angeles? ish?
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 14, 2024 16:00:38 GMT -5
I've got a Honda that gets 80,000 miles per tank. Anywhere is my area. And I would recommend Sequoia, it's awesome.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 14, 2024 22:05:35 GMT -5
people need to get over their NIMBYism Is that code for gentrification? There’s plenty of “housing” but are we catering to the needs of the community? This also leads to a second point I want to make. Overpopulation. Too many people are concentrated into specific areas. We need to spread people out, by not only creating affordable housing, but also thriving communities. I know a lot of people that moved to economical neighborhoods, but are then stuck in the middle of nowhere. Everyone already spends 40-60 minutes in traffic everyday. Now you gotta add more distance to that cause you can’t afford to live where you work? Fuck that. People are "concentrated into specific areas" because those areas are very desirable. New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc are very nice places that a whole lot of people want to live in and unless they suddenly decline (like New York in the 70s) that's not changing; they have an obvious allure and a lot of people yearn for that urban lifestyle. So demand to live in these places if very high but NIMBY zoning laws constrain the number of homes that can be placed there so supply is limited. High demand, low supply, perfect equation to raise prices through the roof. With the possible exception of New York and maybe Chicago basically no American cities have come close to the kind of density they really need in order to really effect prices and accommodate everyone, largely because of an addiction to single family housing and an aversion to public transportation. The bay areas is ground zero for this. If they'd embrace high-rises instead of sprawl they'd help things a lot.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 14, 2024 23:15:33 GMT -5
New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc Most major cities have a central hub that everyone drives to. Housing near those areas (whether they be homes or apartments) are more desirable and expensive. And yes, many of these cities have awful public transportation. People basically have two options. Either you pay high rent or high mortgage and have the luxury of everything being within walking distance or a short drive away. Or you live in the outskirts and waste an hour in traffic (both ways) everyday and spend money on a reliable vehicle and fuel. Which option do you think most people choose? Or better question, which one is forced on working class and lower class people? If the city does rent control, the upper class will say, “wait — are the poor moving here?” If the city decides to build a park or a cultural center in the poor neighborhoods, corporations will say, “wait — where am I gonna build my Walmart?” The issue isn’t specifically about housing. The issue is that cities aren’t building thriving communities.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 15, 2024 5:25:40 GMT -5
New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc If the city does rent control, the upper class will say, “wait — are the poor moving here?” You've got it backwards. Rent control usually just locks in rents for current residents, it doesn't really do much to help anyone who isn't already renting. In fact it actively hurts any new residents because it discourages further development by making the prospect of being a landlord in the area less desirable and thus discourages the building of new housing to make room for new residents. It's building new housing that actually makes things more affordable for new residents by increasing supply to meet demand and that's usually the thing that freaks out the nimby current residents and what needs to be fought for. The more housing you can build in that central core the more people can avoid the shitty commutes.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 15, 2024 9:23:48 GMT -5
It's building new housing that actually makes things more affordable for new residents by increasing supply to meet demand and that's usually the thing that freaks out the nimby current residents and what needs to be fought for. The more housing you can build in that central core the more people can avoid the shitty commutes. In that context, the nimby crowd is protesting random high-rise apartments that obstruct the neighborhood. It depends on the city. Some cities have no new land to built on. Ideally, you’d want the city to expand as much as possible. That isn’t possible in some cities. In recent years, at least where I live, there’s been an effort to tear down all these old malls that no one goes to anymore and replace it with housing and new businesses and recreational centers. Problem is, a lot of these old malls still have an active lease and staying put to the bitter end, even though most of the tenants have left. So you have all these literal dead malls taking up valuable real estate. That affects the outskirts, where most of the working class and poor live, since there’s less incentive to do anything about it. In the richer neighborhoods, the city will just buy out the remaining leases and move forward with their renovation projects. I’ve seen neighborhoods rejuvenated with a healthy balance of housing and community. I’ve also seen neighborhoods ruined with lazy construction. And I’ve also seen rich cultural neighborhoods get gentrified. Like I said, the worst thing is to congest everything into one area. You want to spread everything out.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 15, 2024 10:34:39 GMT -5
It's building new housing that actually makes things more affordable for new residents by increasing supply to meet demand and that's usually the thing that freaks out the nimby current residents and what needs to be fought for. The more housing you can build in that central core the more people can avoid the shitty commutes. In that context, the nimby crowd is protesting random high-rise apartments that obstruct the neighborhood. It depends on the city. Some cities have no new land to built on. You don't need "new land" you can just build upwards. Remove single family homes and replace them with apartment/condo complexes. The developers have very little trouble obtaining the land, it's getting around the neighbors who think they should be able to tell other people what they can do with the land they own that's the problem. And it doesn't necessarily need to be high rises either, it can be replacing a lot of single family homes with duplexes and triplexes or putting in townhouses and the like.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 15, 2024 19:10:46 GMT -5
In that context, the nimby crowd is protesting random high-rise apartments that obstruct the neighborhood. It depends on the city. Some cities have no new land to built on. You don't need "new land" you can just build upwards. Remove single family homes and replace them with apartment/condo complexes. The developers have very little trouble obtaining the land, it's getting around the neighbors who think they should be able to tell other people what they can do with the land they own that's the problem. And it doesn't necessarily need to be high rises either, it can be replacing a lot of single family homes with duplexes and triplexes or putting in townhouses and the like. Fair enough.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 16, 2024 10:12:04 GMT -5
You'll never guess what state every one of these cities are in...
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Post by Neverending on Jun 16, 2024 13:15:22 GMT -5
people need to get over their NIMBYism Is that code for gentrification? You'll never guess what state every one of these cities are in...
California? The homeless capital of America? In the beginning of the video, the guy explains NIMBYism as less housing for increased property value. In other words, let’s price out the poor, the working class, the minorities, etc. This goes beyond population control and into class division. And Doomsday thinks he’ll be better off in Texas?
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Post by Neverending on Jul 17, 2024 15:33:41 GMT -5
www.cbsnews.com/news/pizza-hut-to-lay-off-thousands-of-california-workers/Minimum wage in California is going up to $20/hr. Pizza Hut is responding by laying off its delivery drivers and pivoting to 3rd party apps like Uber and DoorDash. The article says that other pizza places are doing the same, but Pizza Hut is the biggest one. In my neck of the woods, it is Domino’s that phased out delivery drivers. It is carryout or don’t bother with Domino’s these days. Which is funny cause they were the inventors of 30 minutes or less. In regards to Pizza Hut, just bring back the dine-in restaurants! That’s what made Pizza Hut Pizza Hut. Well, I guess Pizza Hut pulled the plug. I just ordered and it was delivered through DoorDash.
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