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Post by Neverending on Mar 30, 2017 16:23:09 GMT -5
un-Valentines DayMarch Madness31 Days of HalloweenMovies To Be Thankful For25 Days of Christmas"Classical" MoviesRe-Evaluating Bad Movies A Neverending Journey Into The ObscureScience Fiction Movies: Reviews & DiscussionPolitical FilmsSports MoviesStranger Things: 11 Movie CollectionWelcome to Double Feature, where I'll be "reviewing" a duo of films any chance I get. Ya'll are welcomed to participate, although I know the invitation will be declined. DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN (1985) / SHANGHAI SURPRISE (1986)Madonna has a reputation for making bad movies, but how fair is that and what exactly qualifies as a Madonna movie? Is Evita a bad movie? Do Dick Tracy and A League of Their Own count as Madonna movies? Instead of going through her body of work and finding an answer, I'll take the lazy route and focus on her first two movies. Both feature Madonna in pivotal roles but neither are star vehicles. One is a cult classic and the other is a notorious flop. Desperately Seeking Susan is one of the great time capsules of the 1980's. It captures the New Wave style and New York's white youth neighborhoods - an early 80's MTV without being explicitly commercial. The attempt isn't to be hip and cool and make tons of money. It's presenting a moment in time. Casting Madonna was integral to that goal. Like a Virgin nor any of its singles had been released at the time of production. She was only known for her self-titled album which peaked at #8 and its singles were primarily dance club hits. Madonna was an embodiment of the culture that was being put on display, not the Queen of Pop. This isn't her Purple Rain and she isn't the star of the movie. She's there to add flavor. The fact that Like a Virgin and its singles came out in-between production and release and gave the movie commercial appeal is what has mistakenly turned this into a Madonna movie and given it a reputation that isn't entirely accurate. Rosanna Arquette stars as a bored New Jersey housewife whose only excitement comes from reading the personal ads in the newspaper. She's particularly a fan of Desperately Seeking Susan, a love correspondence of sorts between Madonna and her boyfriend. One day, upon learning where they'll be meeting, she decides to drive to New York and stalk them. I hate to be that guy, but this is the type of story you can only tell with females as the main characters. Put a male as the stalker and all the charm is immediately gone. Anyway... she follows Madonna around New York and buys a jacket she sold to a thrift shop. That turns out to be a mixed blessing because she gets mistaken for Madonna and has her life threatened by a mobster but she also meets and falls in love with a film projectionist played by Aidan Quinn. The plot is a tad convoluted but it's there to put Rosanna Arquette in various environments and situations. They could have taken the easy way out and just made an opposites-attract buddy comedy but I guess they wanted to make it a bit more interesting. Whether or not it worked is ultimately irrelevant because the success of the movie comes from it's three main actors: Arquette, Quinn and Madonna. Arquette and Quinn feel like real people, and not caricatures, and Madonna is just awesome. It's a character and culture driven movie that works in spite of its script. The same can't be said for Shanghai Surprise. Where do begin with this one? Well... Let's start with Madonna. Madonna was a rising star during Desperately Seeking Susan and the Queen of Pop during Shanghai Surprise. This matters because it reflects the roles she plays. One movie existed around her and another existed because of her. She was a star on the level of Michael Jackson and Prince and was married to Sean Penn. Shanghai Surprise was made just to put them two in a movie and capitalize on her fame. At least that is the reputation. The truth is... it's a movie produced by George Harrison, featuring songs by George Harrison, and starring Sean Penn. The most likely scenario is that Penn dragged his wife along even though she was in the middle of making True Blue, her most commercially successful album, and prepping for her first world tour. Penn stars as a reluctant and wise cracking hero searching for jewels and opium in 1930's Japanese occupied China. Madonna plays his love interest. Penn is a respected actor but this isn't the type of character he's suited for. He lacks charisma and looks like he smoked a pound of weed. Madonna was criticized for her performance, but in actuality, she's okay. She did what the role required. It's Penn who's awful. But since he isn't the singer-turned-actor with chart topping success, a fashion trend and a tendency to rely on sex appeal, they went easy on him. What we can gather from these two movies is that Madonna works as an actress when she isn't actually acting and just plays herself and sticks to her image. As for the movies themselves, it really comes down to whether or not they incorporate her well into the story. She doesn't need to be the star. She doesn't even have to play a main character. She just needs to fit in organically. The rest is on the filmmakers themselves. Madonna isn't writing, producing and directing these movies. If the movies don't succeed that's on them. She did her job.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 31, 2017 1:40:57 GMT -5
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) vs Spider-Man 3 (2007)I don't think people realize just how awful The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is until they compare it to Spider-Man 3. To make it easier to comprehend, I'll break it down into categories. StructureSpider-Man 3 juggles its various characters and plotlines by centering everything around Peter Parker. His relationship with Mary Jane is on bumpy roads, his best friend is trying to kill him, his uncle's killer escaped from jail, the new guy at work is trying to steal a promotion, and oh, did I mention, a space parasite is feeding off his emotions. It's convoluted but everything is resolved by the end. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has no focal point. It jumps from one thing to the next with no rhyme or reason and everything is left open for sequels and spin-off's. That's not to say there's no plot or things are difficult to follow. It's actually quite simple. Oscorp is creating bad guys. Peter's dad tried to intervene and now he's continuing the crusade. In the meantime, he has a girlfriend, a stressed out aunt and bills to pay. The problem is that none of this is told through a 3-act story. It's just a series of segments strung together. CharactersThe best thing about the Amazing duology is the chemistry between Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Other than them, the characters are forgettable. In the case of part 2, you have the Rhino who's there just to be there, a mentally retarded Electro and an edgy teen Harry Osborne. Spider-Man 3 gave us a Harry Osborne who had been established over the course of three movies, a Sandman who turned to crime to provide health care for his sick daughter and an overly ambitious Eddie Brock who'll do anything to succeed as a news photographer. These characters were more thought out and serve the story and emotions. ActionUltimately, these are summer blockbusters and what audiences are mostly interested in is the action. That's why Captain America: Civil War paused its story so there could be a silly fight scene at an airport. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the same. The threw in the Rhino just to have two extra action scenes and threw in the Green Goblin at the last minute to extend the finale and force a death scene. Spider-Man 3 suffers a bit from that. There was so many plot points and characters to introduce that had to throw in action scenes just to keep people awake. But once the story settles in, the action scenes feel more organic and emotionally driven. ConclusionSam Raimi is a better filmmaker than Marc Webb. The three Spider-Man movies are better than the two Amazing Spider-Man movies.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 31, 2017 5:50:41 GMT -5
Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a trainwreck. None of its three villains work, the writing is all over the place, and Andrew Garfield is a 31 year old man playing a high school student.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 31, 2017 11:13:08 GMT -5
Andrew Garfield is a 31 year old man playing a high school student. Best decision they made was have Tobey Maguire graduate halfway through the first movie. Even Kirsten Dunst looked haggard by the third movie. If Spider-Man Homecoming turns out well I think the biggest debate between original fans and Marvel fans will be whether or not you want the characters to be grown up. What's Tom Holland's biggest issue? He can't join the Avengers? This was also an annoyance with Andrew Garfield. Aunt May has to get two jobs and this motherfucker doesn't even get one job.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 3, 2017 23:20:17 GMT -5
George of the Jungle (1997) / The Mummy (1999)Doomsday has been talking mad shit about the new Mummy but that's only cause he has mad love for the 1999 one starring Brendan Fraser. It's a teenhood favorite. But before we get to The Mummy, let's talk about George of the Jungle. If you still haven't decided on a wedding gift for Mr and Mrs Doomsday, a VHS copy of this Disney classic will have more significance than a toaster oven. It's about a cute white girl searching the jungles of Africa for Tarzan but settling for Encino Man in a loincloth and a pair of Air Jordan's. There isn't a better representation of their relationship. The movie, I'm thrilled to report, is still awesome and will continue to be awesome when Doomsday watches it with his kids. Great cartoon humor. Great effects and stunts. Brendan Fraser is charming and a goofball. Only a cold hearted bastard like PG Cooper will find reasons to hate on it. Now for The Mummy. There's good indication of how the Tom Cruise one will turn out. Lots of action. Lots of stunts. End of world spectacle. The usual. Brendan Fraser's Mummy represents what summer blockbusters should be and what they used to be. Epic. Hollywood romanticism. Lots of humor. A roller coaster ride of action set pieces. Re-watching this movie is a reminder of how much fun going to the theaters can be. It always isn't that way these days. So yeah, the Tom Cruise one has a lot to live up to.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 3, 2017 23:23:04 GMT -5
I did like the 1999 Mummy quite a bit when I was younger. Kind of don't want to revisit it and ruin whatever positive memories I have of it. Mummy Returns sucked hard.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 3, 2017 23:25:30 GMT -5
Mummy Returns sucked hard. That movie was dogshit but I couldn't tell you why since I don't remember a single thing about it apart from the horrible CGI Scorpion King at the end.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 3, 2017 23:36:02 GMT -5
Mummy Returns sucked hard. That movie was dogshit but I couldn't tell you why since I don't remember a single thing about it apart from the horrible CGI Scorpion King at the end. It's hard to put a finger on what differentiates the two, something about the sequel just sucked the fun out of the formula, the pacing was off, and there just wasn't more story to tell. And yeah that CGI Scorpion King is like something out of a nightmare for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 3, 2017 23:45:26 GMT -5
I have very fond memories of the 1999 film. It's fun, but like Drac, I kinda don't wanna rewatch it in case it really sucks.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 4, 2017 15:02:31 GMT -5
I somehow missed Neverending's review/comparison of Spider-Man films before now. I basically agree with everything you said. Fuck The Amazing Spider-Man movies.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 4, 2017 15:08:56 GMT -5
I somehow missed Neverending 's review/comparison of Spider-Man films before now. I basically agree with everything you said. Fuck The Amazing Spider-Man movies. It is pretty sad when the greatest assets of Spider-Man films are the chemistry in the love story and not the actual reasons we go to see a Spider-Man movie for. I thought Garfield and Stone were very strong in the roles, but that doesn't nearly make up for crappy villains, boring set pieces, and overall just a much lesser retread from what we got from Raimi. Electro and Rhino were just awful, and why the hell have we had the Green Goblin the villain in 3 of the 5 Spider-Man films?
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 4, 2017 15:49:55 GMT -5
If we're going to talk about George of the Jungle don't forget the equally great follow-up:
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Post by FShuttari on Apr 4, 2017 16:08:05 GMT -5
I did like the 1999 Mummy quite a bit when I was younger. Kind of don't want to revisit it and ruin whatever positive memories I have of it. Mummy Returns sucked hard. No matter how bad the reboot will be with Tom Cruise, I think we can all agree it won't be as bad as Mummy Returns.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 4, 2017 16:19:51 GMT -5
If we're going to talk about George of the Jungle don't forget the equally great follow-up: Forget Wolverine, that's the greatest hero to come out of Canada.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Apr 4, 2017 22:42:35 GMT -5
If we're going to talk about George of the Jungle don't forget the equally great follow-up: Forget Wolverine, that's the greatest hero to come out of Canada. Bob & Doug McKensie, along with their faithful dog Hosehead are more heroic than Dudley. They saved Oktoberfest from poisoned beer!
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Post by Neverending on Apr 10, 2017 6:04:50 GMT -5
McQ (1974) / Brannigan (1975)Remember when John Wayne tried to be Clint Eastwood? How embarrassing! Even worse, these were among his last movies. Aside from McQ and Brannigan, he made Rooster Cogburn and The Shootist. This is how John Wayne ended his career. How embarrassing! In McQ, he quits the police force and goes after the men who shot his partner. In Brannigan, he travels to London and tries to extradite a mobster back to the United States. Both movies are actually... pretty good. They're not too far off from what Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen and Charles Bronson were doing at the time. The problem was John Wayne himself. The man must have been 80 and competing with actors half his age. It just isn't believable. People will be quick to point out Liam Neeson, a senior citizen who puts young actors to shame, but he doesn't look like someone's grandfather. John Wayne just looked old. There's no way around that. It would be like telling Michael Caine to star in Get Carter 2. To John Wayne's credit, at least he tried. His performances were good, and by Brannigan, he was playing it for laughs. McQ is the better movie but Brannigan is the funnier one - and that's intentional. As a kid, these movies made me cringe. Now, I realize John Wayne knew exactly what he was doing and succeeded. Both movies are well made. Both are different from each other but don't stray from the genre. And John Wayne is clearly making an effort. I don't think either movie was a cash grab. John Wayne just wanted to evolve with the times and gave it his best shot. It didn't really work, so he went back to his comfort zone and then died. The End.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 17, 2017 16:41:47 GMT -5
The Mark of Zorro (1940) / The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959)Sometimes I ponder what it must have been like to grow up with only three TV channels (or no TV at all) and no Internet. A clue is the type of movies that kids paid to watch on Saturday afternoon. There are many examples but I'll focus on The Mark of Zorro (1940) and The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959) cause those are the ones that happened to be on my DVR. Zorro, starring matinee idol Tyrone Power, is fast paced and simplistic. Don Diego returns to his home in California, after having spend some time in Spain, and discovers that it has been taken over by a tyrant. He dresses up as a superhero and rescues his town from evil. The characters are one dimensional. The story doesn't offer much beyond the basic plot. It's escapist entertainment for an audience that hadn't learned to be cynical. My generation had a Zorro movie too. It starred Antonio Banderas, an actual Spaniard, and offered many of the same swashbuckling thrills. But it also had higher emotional stakes for the characters, greater depth to the story and self aware humor. We had cable television, video game and the emerging popularity of the internet. It took more than a straight forward good vs evil story to catch our attention. Likewise can be said about Sherlock Holmes. They turned the British intellect into a borderline-autistic martial artist. Even TV's Sherlock is quirkier and more self aware than past iterations. None of this should have been shocking. We've seen Sherlock Holmes turned into a rat for Disney animation and mocked by Gene Wilder in the 70's. In 1959, while TV was stealing audiences from cinemas, Hammer, the company that brought Universal's monsters back in the limelight, took a stab at Sherlock Holmes. Naturally starring Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, it was the first Holmes to be made in color and turned the Hound from Hell into a legit horror story with moody music and a gothic setting. How this hasn't become a Halloween favorite is a bit baffling. Then again, it can be seen as silly and boring to modern audiences. Similar to the relationship between the original Sleepy Hollow and the Tim Burton one. However, that's a discussion for another day.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 17, 2017 17:00:54 GMT -5
McQ (1974) / Brannigan (1975)Remember when John Wayne tried to be Clint Eastwood? How embarrassing! Even worse, these were among his last movies. Aside from McQ and Brannigan, he made Rooster Cogburn and The Shootist. This is how John Wayne ended his career. How embarrassing! In McQ, he quits the police force and goes after the men who shot his partner. In Brannigan, he travels to London and tries to extradite a mobster back to the United States. Both movies are actually... pretty good. They're not too far off from what Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen and Charles Bronson were doing at the time. The problem was John Wayne himself. The man must have been 80 and competing with actors half his age. It just isn't believable. People will be quick to point out Liam Neeson, a senior citizen who puts young actors to shame, but he doesn't look like someone's grandfather. John Wayne just looked old. There's no way around that. It would be like telling Michael Caine to star in Get Carter 2. To John Wayne's credit, at least he tried. His performances were good, and by Brannigan, he was playing it for laughs. McQ is the better movie but Brannigan is the funnier one - and that's intentional. As a kid, these movies made me cringe. Now, I realize John Wayne knew exactly what he was doing and succeeded. Both movies are well made. Both are different from each other but don't stray from the genre. And John Wayne is clearly making an effort. I don't think either movie was a cash grab. John Wayne just wanted to evolve with the times and gave it his best shot. It didn't really work, so he went back to his comfort zone and then died. The End. It's a sad truth but it's good that John Wayne died when he did. By that time film had evolved from what he was wanting to make. One of the big reasons he made McQ and Brannigan was due to his regret of turning down Dirty Harry. If you look at the other films he made in the 70s like Cahill U.S. Marshall and Big Jake they're watered down and almost childlike compared to what Eastwood and Peckinpah were churning out during the same time period. The Green Berets, the only Vietnam War movie produced during the war, was a hoo-rah patriotic jaunt that was nothing like the actual war but Wayne didn't know how or want to make a movie that didn't play like Sands of Iwo Jima. He was essentially making the same movie and playing the same character for the last 20 years of his career, heck even his costumes seemed the same toward the end. The only difference was his toupee. That said if you've ever seen The Shootist it's a fitting swan song for him. It's campy, dated and feels like it should have been released in 1946 rather than 1976 but it's the story of a great, aging gunfighter who finds out he has cancer and rather than sit back and whither away he chooses to go out in a last blaze of glory. Wayne died of cancer 3 years later.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 17, 2017 17:17:00 GMT -5
Who had TNT in the 90's and didn't watch The Shootist? It played once-a-month in between airings of Coogan's Bluff and Death Wish 3.
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The St. Valentine's Day Massacre (1967) / Legend (2015)We take The Godfather and Goodfellas for granted. It's easy to forget how shitty gangster movies can be. There's either the risk of glamorizing the lifestyle, trivializing the crimes or both. Take these two movies for example. One is a Roger Corman docudrama about Al Capone and the other is a Tom Hardy vehicle about the Kray Twins. Valentines is really awkward since it uses an old timey newsman to narrate the story. It feels like you're watching an early 20th century propaganda film even though you're looking at something clearly made in 1967. But even if they had chosen a visual style that matched the narration, it still would be a trivialization of a pretty big event in prohibition era America. Legend showcases Tom Hardy once again making weird voices and accents. This times he gets to do it twice since he's playing twins, the Kray Bros, British gangsters from the 1960's. The movie is narrated by the dead wife of one of the bro's. It focuses on their troubled marriage and the other brother's insanity. Um, okay? The Kray Bros were psychopaths, creating violence and mayhem wherever they went. They were also celebrities in swinging London because of their popular nightclubs. The media loved these idiots and they were pals with Frank Sinatra. Isn't that more interesting and worthy of dissection than the up's and down's of marriage and whether or not the other brother had mental health issues and whether or not he was a closeted homosexual. What a strange millennial approach to a gangster movie.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 7, 2017 12:58:16 GMT -5
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The Wilby Conspiracy (1975) / Ashanti (1979)If you sign up for Professor PG Cooper's film class, you're forced to watch movies by sexual predators. College is a safe space and Professor PG Cooper is violating that. He should be educating the youth in socially conscious films like this double feature starring Sir Michael Caine. My Cocaine! The Wilby Conspiracy finds Caine and Sidney Poitier on the run from police in South Africa. "Free South Africa, you son of bitch." Ashanti is about Caine searching for his kidnapped wife in the sex trafficking trade. Both movies have their flaws. Wilby is like a weird buddy-action-comedy set in the midst of apartheid. There's all sorts of questionable scenes like one where Poitier is hiding in a secret room while police search the place and he randomly starts having sex with a woman also hiding in the room. We can tackle racism but not sexism. For that you gotta watch Ashanti where Caine and his wife are doctors in Africa and she gets kidnapped by sex traffickers. That one is odd because it looks like it was shot by the cinematographer of those Duran Duran music video from the early MTV days. That visual style doesn't match with the subject matter. But it's not totally the cameraman's fault. The story is just bonkers. It ends with Caine on a boat in the middle of a beautiful ocean winning a fist fight against his wife's captor. I guess we can give A for effort. And maybe we shouldn't dismiss Professor PG Cooper. Men prone to abuse do make excellent films. In our next class: Lethal Weapon 2. "Free South Africa, you son of a bitch."
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 7, 2017 13:48:32 GMT -5
Lol, no comment.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 23, 2018 5:09:38 GMT -5
Welcome back, class. It’s a new semester. You’re gearing up for another round of Professor PG Cooper showing you movies starring sexual predators. This time it’s... The Missouri Breaks (1976)You think Jack Nicholson and Marlon Brando got together for lunch and said, “well... one of us is gonna have to be the normal one”? Before Bound for Glory took that coveted 5th Best Picture spot at the Academy Awards in 1976, this is the movie everyone was eyeballing. Nicholson! Brando! This possibly can’t suck - right? Let’s put it this way. The pairing of Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler was more successful. If you need a cure for insomnia, watch the Missouri Breaks. The Shootist (1976)Here ya go, Doomsday. My long awaited re-view of The Shootist. Quick question. Was it already known that John Wayne was dying? It seems rather odd that they purposely made “John Wayne’s last movie”. It starts with clips of his old movies. They gave his character his real life disease. He passes on the torch to... Ron Howard? I don’t know what to make of The Shootist. It definitely has its moments. John Wayne is a charming guy. He was a movie star for 50 years for a reason. But his age had definitely caught up to him. He spends like 97% of the movie sitting down. Jimmy Stewart walked more than he did - and he was like half dead. Are we sure HE didn’t kill Liberty Valance? I really hope Clint Eastwood’s last movie isn’t the 3:30 to Paris. Please keep this man alive a bit longer. Have you noticed all these tough guys end their careers with shit movies? Gene Hackman’s last movie was Welcome to Moosepoint with Ray Romano. Gene Hackman passed on the torch to Ray Romano, just like John Wayne passed on the torch to Ron Howard. Godspeed.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 23, 2018 6:33:37 GMT -5
He was not officially terminal but he was all kinds of unhealthy and had had one lung removed.
There are probably more famous actors with bad final films than there are ones with good final films, especially if we aren't counting people who died young.
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