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Post by Doomsday on Aug 2, 2024 12:13:50 GMT -5
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He doesn't listen to the podcast Excuse me, sir. I laid out my terms quite clear. Once you and SnoBorderZero have made the Toto biopic starring Pedro Pascal as Bobby Kimball, I’ll come on the podcast to debate Moonraker with PG Cooper. And no David Zaslav bullshit. The Toto biopic must get a wide-release theatrical run and a full blown awards campaign. Oh, and I want an Executive Producer credit and to be personally thanked during each awards win. I also want to be addressed as the Executive Producer of the Toto biopic on the podcast. Oh, and 5% of the film’s revenue. Box office. Streaming. TV. Soundtrack. Merchandising. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 6, 2024 21:56:52 GMT -5
Hey team, PGCooper and I have the following schedule for podcasts coming up. Is anyone interested in joining us for any of these topics? August 13 - Franchises we're done with
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If you want to join us, either let me know here or message me
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Post by Neverending on Aug 7, 2024 0:52:36 GMT -5
August 13 - Franchises we're done with a/k/a PG Cooper talks shit about Deadpool & Wolverine. |
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August 13 - Franchises we're done with a/k/a PG Cooper talks shit about Deadpool & Wolverine. Already locked in my moment. |
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August 13 - Franchises we're done with a/k/a PG Cooper talks shit about Deadpool & Wolverine. Are you in? |
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 12, 2024 16:16:46 GMT -5
Yeah, we needed Harmonica's backstory. Not only because it's good to know where the actual harmonica and particular tune come from but because I think it would have been a little too vague having Harmonica going around killing people with unclear motivations. I'm all for keeping things hidden and without overexplaining things but that bit of information benefitted the movie.
Also, I think there's a difference between a War and Peace being published piecemeal and a movie being shot and released separately. If Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 are 'one movie' then are Dune Part 1 and Part 2 also one movie? What about Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning 1 and 2? Then again though, would the production itself dictate whether a two-part movie is one or two movies? Kill Bill 1 and 2 were shot simultaneously and sequentially whereas movies like Dune 1 and 2 were shot separately and released years apart. I dunno, I think I'm in the camp of movies being separate. Kill Bill Vol. 1 and Kill Bill Vol. 2 are one story but two movies.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 12, 2024 16:20:13 GMT -5
Yeah bo-oy!
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 12, 2024 17:01:53 GMT -5
Also, I think there's a difference between a War and Peace being published piecemeal and a movie being shot and released separately. As you yourself say, the Kill Bill movies were shot at the same time and just released separately. So what's the difference? Also when I make my Best of the 2020s list Dune and Dune Part II will be sharing a single slot. |
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 12, 2024 17:17:32 GMT -5
That's the conundrum, aside from the production angle what would be the main difference? Ultimately if a series of movies is telling one story would they all just be one movie? But then would The Hobbit be one movie? Because I don't think I've heard anyone make that argment (maybe they have and I just missed it). This is a prickly argument indeed.
I think I'll boil it down to this selfish outlook; how many tickets did the studios soak me to pay for when watching Kill Bill? Two of em, I had to pay for two damn tickets. Two movies it is.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 12, 2024 17:30:32 GMT -5
That's the conundrum, aside from the production angle what would be the main difference? Ultimately if a series of movies is telling one story would they all just be one movie? But then would The Hobbit be one movie? Because I don't think I've heard anyone make that argment (maybe they have and I just missed it). This is a prickly argument indeed. I think I'll boil it down to this selfish outlook; how many tickets did the studios soak me to pay for when watching Kill Bill? Two of em, I had to pay for two damn tickets. Two movies it is. The LOTR movies were written as three separate screenplays to match the three books from the outset. Kill Bill was written to be one movie then changed after the fact. |
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 12, 2024 18:52:40 GMT -5
Yeah I figured the LOTR movies were three separate pieces as the source material was written that way. The Hobbit would be its own separate beast as that was supposed to be one movie then stretched into two movies then further stretched into three movies. Would we consider that trilogy to be one movie? Not that anyone cares about the Hobbit movies but I'm curious how we can approach these one story/multiple movies releases.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 12, 2024 19:12:44 GMT -5
Not that anyone cares about the Hobbit movies That's the real factor with those movies lmao. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 12, 2024 22:43:10 GMT -5
Also, I think there's a difference between a War and Peace being published piecemeal and a movie being shot and released separately. As you yourself say, the Kill Bill movies were shot at the same time and just released separately. So what's the difference? Also when I make my Best of the 2020s list Dune and Dune Part II will be sharing a single slot.  |
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 12, 2024 22:45:17 GMT -5
As you yourself say, the Kill Bill movies were shot at the same time and just released separately. So what's the difference? Also when I make my Best of the 2020s list Dune and Dune Part II will be sharing a single slot. I'll put it underneath Crimes of the Future just to twist the knife. |
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 17, 2024 14:16:29 GMT -5
Hey hey hey now, I wasn't planting my flag behind any one reason why a series can be considered one movie or several, I was pointing out different ways to approach it. Although yes, I stand behind the number of tickets purchased equalling the number of movies.
I haven't watched Terminator Genysis and never will. Nevermind the fact that by all accounts it's terrible, I love the first two movies (and enjoy the third for the most part) and don't want to watch this franchise be bastardized any more than it already has been. And now Cameron wants to get another one in the works? GFY Jim.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 17, 2024 14:21:57 GMT -5
The crazy thing about the Terminator franchise is that, like, they fail every time and still keep trying to start over. Most overly elongated franchises will stumble upon at least one success to keep the ball rolling. Like, we can rag on the Jurassic Park sequels all we want but Jurassic World was a box office hit that understandably elicited further sequels. Terminator on the other hand has pretty much never hit upon a single bit of pay dirt despite repeated attempts.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 17, 2024 14:45:43 GMT -5
And like Coop and Ian were saying on the podcast, there's really not many places they try to take the franchise. Salvation at least tries to go in another direction but otherwise it's always 'Terminator sent back through time to kill John Connor (or someone exactly the same).' There are only so many, or so few, directions you can go with that.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 17, 2024 15:15:10 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the newest one yet, but I have a question from one -- or two -- of the episodes from further back.
On the Apocalyptic Movies episode, as well as another some time before that where Terry Gilliam was brought up (and, coincidentally, Nate was on both), you guys said that you thought that 12 Monkeys was his most accessible film. To which, I would counter with: what about The Fisher King? Granted, it's been quite some time since I've last seen 12 Monkeys and am overdue for a rewatch (I have the Arrow Blu-Ray sitting around, waiting on me), but The Fisher King strikes me as Gilliam more fully trying to do a "one for them" kind of film that's very much intended as a feel-good crowdpleaser -- despite Robin Williams' character's backstory -- with emphasis on romance and friendship, while still retaining some of his style, whereas 12 Monkeys seems like a bleaker and maybe weirder movie. I dunno, like I said I'd need to rewatch 12 Monkeys again, but it's still something that struck me both times the observation was brought up.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 17, 2024 15:17:07 GMT -5
I've honestly never see Fisher King, nor do I usually remember it exists.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 17, 2024 15:22:05 GMT -5
The Fisher King is so accessible that it barely feels like a Terry Gilliam movie and likely doesn't come immediately to mind when thinking about him.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 17, 2024 15:23:59 GMT -5
I've honestly never see Fisher King, nor do I usually remember it exists. Well, that's something you should rectify. I think it's my favorite Terry Gilliam movie. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 17, 2024 22:42:55 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the newest one yet, but I have a question from one -- or two -- of the episodes from further back. On the Apocalyptic Movies episode, as well as another some time before that where Terry Gilliam was brought up (and, coincidentally, Nate was on both), you guys said that you thought that 12 Monkeys was his most accessible film. To which, I would counter with: what about The Fisher King? Granted, it's been quite some time since I've last seen 12 Monkeys and am overdue for a rewatch (I have the Arrow Blu-Ray sitting around, waiting on me), but The Fisher King strikes me as Gilliam more fully trying to do a "one for them" kind of film that's very much intended as a feel-good crowdpleaser -- despite Robin Williams' character's backstory -- with emphasis on romance and friendship, while still retaining some of his style, whereas 12 Monkeys seems like a bleaker and maybe weirder movie. I dunno, like I said I'd need to rewatch 12 Monkeys again, but it's still something that struck me both times the observation was brought up.
I've been meaning to rewatch that actually. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 18, 2024 14:42:49 GMT -5
Anyone here want to do an episode on movies from the 2010s decade?
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Post by Neverending on Aug 18, 2024 21:05:20 GMT -5
you guys said that you thought that 12 Monkeys was his most accessible film. To which, I would counter with: what about The Fisher King? Y’all ain’t fact-checking the goddamn Canadians? Change the name of the podcast to Movie in Minutes with the Trump Boys. |
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