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Post by PG Cooper on May 8, 2022 16:29:41 GMT -5
What is the general sentiment about this movie here? It's uneven. The set-pieces are really strong but the conflict feels rushed and it's kind of a weak intro for Black Panther. Ultimately too good of a spectacle to dislike but could have been much more. As I understand it, the Civil War storyline was a long-term bit of writing than scaled multiple issues of multiple different books. Trying to do it in one movie as an answer to Batman v Superman was probably a bit shortsighted. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on May 8, 2022 16:44:33 GMT -5
It's uneven. The set-pieces are really strong but the conflict feels rushed and it's kind of a weak intro for Black Panther. Ultimately too good of a spectacle to dislike but could have been much more. As I understand it, the Civil War storyline was a long-term bit of writing than scaled multiple issues of multiple different books. Trying to do it in one movie as an answer to Batman v Superman was probably a bit shortsighted. I absolutely do not think this was "an answer" to BvS. I'm willing to bet this was in development first. Also, at one point for a while, both movies were actually set to release on the same day before BvS moved up to March. |
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Post by frankyt on May 8, 2022 16:46:05 GMT -5
It's very melodramatic. In the future remake when they have the X-Men and Spiderman from the jump civil wars gonna be so damn good.
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Post by Neverending on May 8, 2022 19:29:24 GMT -5
As I understand it, the Civil War storyline was a long-term bit of writing than scaled multiple issues of multiple different books. Civil War isn’t a complicated story to adapt. The filmmakers just need balls to pull it off. It’s written by Mark Millar, the guy behind Wanted, Kick-Ass and Kingsman. This is the type of story you give to Matthew Vaughn, not the Russo Brothers. In Civil War, Tony Stark embodies the Bush Era and the Patriot Act. He’s the clear “villain” of the story. Captain America ultimately loses and it leads to Spider-Man: One More Day, the most controversial Spider-Man story next to the Clone Saga. The real problem with Civil War is they did the story too early. You don’t tell that story in the midst of the Infinity Stone saga. They should have saved it for now, with the introduction of the X-Men and the Fantastic Four in the MCU and with Spider-Man past his high school days. |
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Post by Dracula on May 8, 2022 19:49:48 GMT -5
As I understand it, the Civil War storyline was a long-term bit of writing than scaled multiple issues of multiple different books. Captain America ultimately loses and it leads to Spider-Man: One More Day, the most controversial Spider-Man story next to the Clone Saga. Is that the one where he makes a deal with the devil to retcon his marriage in order to save Aunt May? |
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Post by Neverending on May 8, 2022 21:15:55 GMT -5
Captain America ultimately loses and it leads to Spider-Man: One More Day, the most controversial Spider-Man story next to the Clone Saga. Is that the one where he makes a deal with the devil to retcon his marriage in order to save Aunt May? In Civil War, Peter Parker joins Team Stark and reveals that he is Spider-Man. Aunt May gets brutally attacked and he makes a deal with Mephisto to save her life. That results in people forgetting he’s Spider-Man and his marriage to MJ being erased. It’s basically No Way Home but more maddening to longtime readers cause it deleted 20 years worth of Spider-Man lore. |
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Post by IanTheCool on May 9, 2022 22:18:51 GMT -5
Is that the one where he makes a deal with the devil to retcon his marriage in order to save Aunt May? In Civil War, Peter Parker joins Team Stark and reveals that he is Spider-Man. Aunt May gets brutally attacked and he makes a deal with Mephisto to save her life. That results in people forgetting he’s Spider-Man and his marriage to MJ being erased. It’s basically No Way Home but more maddening to longtime readers cause it deleted 20 years worth of Spider-Man lore. Oh I didnt realize that all happened. I just remembered Punisher saving him from getting his butt kicked. |
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Post by IanTheCool on May 9, 2022 22:22:19 GMT -5
Doctor Strange 2016
The next origin story from the MCU. What did I think?
- I know its been said, but Steven Strange is quite similar to Tony Stark. (In fact, he's pretty much been filling the Stark role since Endgame). The main difference is that Strange actually lost the ability to do what he was great at and had to cope with that.
- I'm not overly excited about the mystical powers. They do seem to have some rules associated with them, but they are a little too close to the nebulous, undefined powers I hate so much in movies like these.
- The last act really clicks. The movie does seem to lull for a while, but gets better as it moves towards the ending.
- I really appreciated Mordo as a character this time around and I hope they do more with him.
- Cumberbatch was great casting.
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Post by thebtskink on May 10, 2022 6:11:45 GMT -5
As I understand it, the Civil War storyline was a long-term bit of writing than scaled multiple issues of multiple different books. Civil War isn’t a complicated story to adapt. The filmmakers just need balls to pull it off. It’s written by Mark Millar, the guy behind Wanted, Kick-Ass and Kingsman. This is the type of story you give to Matthew Vaughn, not the Russo Brothers. In Civil War, Tony Stark embodies the Bush Era and the Patriot Act. He’s the clear “villain” of the story. Captain America ultimately loses and it leads to Spider-Man: One More Day, the most controversial Spider-Man story next to the Clone Saga. The real problem with Civil War is they did the story too early. You don’t tell that story in the midst of the Infinity Stone saga. They should have saved it for now, with the introduction of the X-Men and the Fantastic Four in the MCU and with Spider-Man past his high school days. Only ever reading the miniseries and Wikipedia, i kinda liked the clone saga. Id like to see it onscreen at some point. |
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Post by Neverending on May 10, 2022 11:12:06 GMT -5
i kinda liked the clone saga. Id like to see it onscreen at some point. Are you looking to start a fight with Wyldstaar? |
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Post by thebtskink on May 10, 2022 12:35:26 GMT -5
i kinda liked the clone saga. Id like to see it onscreen at some point. Are you looking to start a fight with Wyldstaar? Yes. |
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Post by Doomsday on May 10, 2022 15:18:25 GMT -5
Remember when skink called Wyldstaar a little bitch in that one thread? Because I do.
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Post by PhantomKnight on May 11, 2022 9:52:22 GMT -5
Aaaaaaanyway, Doctor Strange is good!
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Post by Neverending on May 11, 2022 14:53:40 GMT -5
Aaaaaaanyway, Doctor Strange is good! Debatable |
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Post by IanTheCool on May 11, 2022 18:56:55 GMT -5
Aaaaaaanyway, Doctor Strange is good! Debatable Debate then. And not with a video clip. |
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Post by Neverending on May 11, 2022 19:14:53 GMT -5
Debate then. And not with a video clip.  |
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Post by Jibbs on May 11, 2022 19:31:10 GMT -5
I agree. Civil War has issues. Namely the last 10 seconds.
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Are you looking to start a fight with Wyldstaar ? Yes. I'm not going to kink shame you. Let your freak flag fly, you freak. |
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Post by IanTheCool on May 11, 2022 20:01:05 GMT -5
I agree. Civil War has issues. Namely the last 10 seconds. What is your issue with the last 10 seconds? |
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Post by PhantomKnight on May 12, 2022 8:58:09 GMT -5
Debate then. And not with a video clip. So? |
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Post by thebtskink on May 12, 2022 9:54:29 GMT -5
Personally my gripe with Civil War has always been that the title cards aren't large enough.
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Post by Jibbs on May 12, 2022 17:57:23 GMT -5
I agree. Civil War has issues. Namely the last 10 seconds. What is your issue with the last 10 seconds? The movie copping out on ending the movie on darker terms with Cap's little "we still cool" message. |
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