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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 20, 2021 15:19:46 GMT -5
There have been a lot of retcons regarding those kids over the decades. It also depends if they’re using Mephisto or Nightmare as the villain and how it all ties into Doctor Strange. Vision can’t exist in the real world. Can the kids? We'll have to see how all this plays out. I'm not convinced that Vision is forever confined to The Hex. The big reveal this week that SWORD has been trying to reactivate Vision opens the door for bringing him back to life. It may require some extra effort from Wanda, since she doesn't appear to have attempted to revive him to the extent that would be required outside of The Hex. Vision has been 'killed' several times over the decades. He's synthetic. He can be rebuilt. Considering that Paul Bettany doesn't have anything else going on in his career, I'm sure he'll continue to be available. It seems like a shame to have spent an entire series making Vision more popular than he's ever been, only to kill him off again.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2021 15:37:34 GMT -5
It also depends if they’re using Mephisto or Nightmare as the villain and how it all ties into Doctor Strange. Vision can’t exist in the real world. Can the kids? We'll have to see how all this plays out. I'm not convinced that Vision is forever confined to The Hex. The big reveal this week that SWORD has been trying to reactivate Vision opens the door for bringing him back to life. It may require some extra effort from Wanda, since she doesn't appear to have attempted to revive him to the extent that would be required outside of The Hex. Vision has been 'killed' several times over the decades. He's synthetic. He can be rebuilt. Considering that Paul Bettany doesn't have anything else going on in his career, I'm sure he'll continue to be available. It seems like a shame to have spent an entire series making Vision more popular than he's ever been, only to kill him off again. I meant if they use Mephisto, he could grant Wanda’s wish to keep Vision alive and we know in the comics he’s the real “dad” of the kids. But I don’t know how that’ll play into Doctor Strange. Mephisto fits perfectly into the supernatural and witchcraft elements of the show. But if the plan is to set-up the multiverse, Nightmare makes the most sense since he’s an interdimensional villain.
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Post by Fanible on Feb 21, 2021 14:33:18 GMT -5
I'm not ruling out Mordo's involvement here. We haven't seen/heard from him since Doctor Strange, and he undoubtedly will be in the second film. Being that Wanda is confirmed to be in the next Strange movie, I wouldn't be all that shocked if Mordo popped up.
If we are leading up to a new big baddie, who do we think could be in the role? Theory going around that Al Pacino's meeting with Kevin Feige from years ago could be a possibility. Since Feige tends to have plans for the stories many years in advance, the timing wouldn't be totally crazy.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 21, 2021 15:06:07 GMT -5
I'm not ruling out Mordo's involvement here. We haven't seen/heard from him since Doctor Strange, and he undoubtedly will be in the second film. Being that Wanda is confirmed to be in the next Strange movie, I wouldn't be all that shocked if Mordo popped up. If we are leading up to a new big baddie, who do we think could be in the role? Theory going around that Al Pacino's meeting with Kevin Feige from years ago could be a possibility. Since Feige tends to have plans for the stories many years in advance, the timing wouldn't be totally crazy. I don't think the MCU really needs another Big Bad any time soon. If we do get one, it should be Doom. As for Pacino, he could be playing Mephisto. He's done it before, after all.
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Post by Jibbs on Feb 21, 2021 16:15:55 GMT -5
I think what's going on is a mix of Agnes and Wanda. Agnes might be enhancing something Wanda was trying to but wasn't powerful enough to do. But it will be interesting to see where it goes from there. At any rate, I'm not up to speed on modern sitcoms. Was this one Modern Family? The theme song felt more like The Office, which had the same basic mockumentary format, but Modern Family was the mocumentary sitcom about a suburban family so it kind of fits a bit better. The kids were playing with a Nintendo Wii, so that fits around the same time period. Credits were definitely Happy Endings.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 21, 2021 16:42:11 GMT -5
The next overarching big bad should be Stilt Man.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 21, 2021 16:48:13 GMT -5
The next overarching big bad should be Stilt Man. Lady Stilt Man
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 21, 2021 17:19:53 GMT -5
By the way, was there a reason they skipped right over 90's sitcoms?
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 21, 2021 17:28:08 GMT -5
Agetha hated Herman's Head so she vaporized the 90s.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 21, 2021 17:39:24 GMT -5
By the way, was there a reason they skipped right over 90's sitcoms? 90s sitcoms, or at least the family sitcoms set in the suburbs, basically look the same as 80s sitcoms at least in terms of visual style (which is most of what they can ape). The most identifiably "90s" sitcoms are shows like Friends and Seinfeld which are about single people living in cities.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 21, 2021 17:53:50 GMT -5
By the way, was there a reason they skipped right over 90's sitcoms? 90s sitcoms, or at least the family sitcoms set in the suburbs, basically look the same as 80s sitcoms at least in terms of visual style (which is most of what they can ape). The most identifiably "90s" sitcoms are shows like Friends and Seinfeld which are about single people living in cities. Home Improvement got screwed over.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 21, 2021 18:01:07 GMT -5
I said it before I'll say it again, they should have did The Simpsons.
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Post by Jibbs on Feb 21, 2021 18:04:27 GMT -5
And the first two episodes were very different?
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 21, 2021 18:12:24 GMT -5
The theme song felt more like The Office, which had the same basic mockumentary format, but Modern Family was the mocumentary sitcom about a suburban family so it kind of fits a bit better. The kids were playing with a Nintendo Wii, so that fits around the same time period. Credits were definitely Happy Endings. Odd choice
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 21, 2021 18:12:50 GMT -5
And the first two episodes were very different? Wanda wore pants in the second episode.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 21, 2021 18:13:26 GMT -5
90s sitcoms, or at least the family sitcoms set in the suburbs, basically look the same as 80s sitcoms at least in terms of visual style (which is most of what they can ape). The most identifiably "90s" sitcoms are shows like Friends and Seinfeld which are about single people living in cities. Home Improvement got screwed over. Home Improvement was too centered around the Dad and his work to be a good fit for WandaVision. The fact that so many saw Full House in the 80's episode instead of Family Ties or Growing Pains makes it pretty clear that the producers made the right call in skipping the 90's. That said however, if they'd opted to turn the cast of WandaVision into animatronic Dinosaurs, that would have been amazing. It also would have caused the budget to skyrocket, of course.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 21, 2021 18:16:07 GMT -5
By the way, was there a reason they skipped right over 90's sitcoms? Full House can double as both an 80’s & 90’s sitcom. And the first two episodes were very different? 1st episode was Dick Van Dyke. 2nd was Bewitched. But yeah, aesthetically, they were very similar.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 21, 2021 18:19:36 GMT -5
90s sitcoms, or at least the family sitcoms set in the suburbs, basically look the same as 80s sitcoms at least in terms of visual style (which is most of what they can ape). The most identifiably "90s" sitcoms are shows like Friends and Seinfeld which are about single people living in cities. Home Improvement got screwed over. But that's a good example of what we're talking about. Home Improvement is basically just another show with a house set in front of a studio audience aside from the parts where Tim Allen is off doing his TV show about tools and talking about how men are like this and women are like that.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 21, 2021 18:21:09 GMT -5
The fact that so many saw Full House in the 80's episode instead of Family Ties or Growing Pains makes it pretty clear that the producers made the right call in skipping the 90's. Other than the opening, there was nothing Family Ties about that episode. Growing Pains was also a “dad centric” show. I think the tone of Full House, at the very least, fit with WandaVision.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 21, 2021 18:27:21 GMT -5
Home Improvement got screwed over. But that's a good example of what we're talking about. Home Improvement is basically just another show with a house set in front of a studio audience aside from the parts where Tim Allen is off doing his TV show about tools and talking about how men are like this and women are like that. Tool Time was a big part of the show and it gave Tim Allen, a stand-up comic, a chance to interact with the studio audience. They also did quite a bit of on-location shooting to give Tim Allen an opportunity to blow shit up. If they had done a Vision-centric 90’s episode, Home Improvement would have been a perfect one.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 21, 2021 18:48:05 GMT -5
The fact that so many saw Full House in the 80's episode instead of Family Ties or Growing Pains makes it pretty clear that the producers made the right call in skipping the 90's. Other than the opening, there was nothing Family Ties about that episode. Growing Pains was also a “dad centric” show. I think the tone of Full House, at the very least, fit with WandaVision. I beg to differ. The layout of the house was extremely Family Ties, right down to the stained glass windows. There's also the matter of the babies growing instantly into child actors. Family Ties and Growing Pains both did that. The little girl from Growing Pains would grow up to be the blonde waitress in The Avengers, but that's just a coincidence.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 21, 2021 19:14:10 GMT -5
Home Improvement got screwed over. But that's a good example of what we're talking about. Home Improvement is basically just another show with a house set in front of a studio audience aside from the parts where Tim Allen is off doing his TV show about tools and talking about how men are like this and women are like that. But think about it: Vision could have literally been seen as a Tool Man.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 21, 2021 19:19:38 GMT -5
By the way, was there a reason they skipped right over 90's sitcoms? 90s sitcoms, or at least the family sitcoms set in the suburbs, basically look the same as 80s sitcoms at least in terms of visual style (which is most of what they can ape). The most identifiably "90s" sitcoms are shows like Friends and Seinfeld which are about single people living in cities. You know what this tells me? Disney+ needs to do a sitcom with The Avengers in the style of Friends. Doomsday, get me in there.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 21, 2021 19:21:40 GMT -5
90s sitcoms, or at least the family sitcoms set in the suburbs, basically look the same as 80s sitcoms at least in terms of visual style (which is most of what they can ape). The most identifiably "90s" sitcoms are shows like Friends and Seinfeld which are about single people living in cities. You know what this tells me? Disney+ needs to do a sitcom with The Avengers in the style of Friends. Doomsday, get me in there. DC beat them to it with that Justice League pilot movie.
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