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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 19, 2021 21:59:56 GMT -5
I think what's going on is a mix of Agnes and Wanda. Agnes might be enhancing something Wanda was trying to but wasn't powerful enough to do. But it will be interesting to see where it goes from there. At any rate, I'm not up to speed on modern sitcoms. Was this one Modern Family? The theme song felt more like The Office, which had the same basic mockumentary format, but Modern Family was the mocumentary sitcom about a suburban family so it kind of fits a bit better. The kids were playing with a Nintendo Wii, so that fits around the same time period. Plus, haven't all the sitcoms used as inspiration been ABC shows and thus Disney-owned? I thought I read somewhere that's been the case. So, yeah, Modern Family.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 19, 2021 22:11:51 GMT -5
The theme song felt more like The Office, which had the same basic mockumentary format, but Modern Family was the mocumentary sitcom about a suburban family so it kind of fits a bit better. The kids were playing with a Nintendo Wii, so that fits around the same time period. Plus, haven't all the sitcoms used as inspiration been ABC shows and thus Disney-owned? I thought I read somewhere that's been the case. So, yeah, Modern Family. The first few were pulled from various sources. Episode one was Donna Reed meets Dick Van Dyke, but probably closer to the latter, which is owned by CBS and Paramount. Episode Two was mostly Bewitched, which is owned by Sony. The third felt mostly like Rhoda to me (there is probably another sitcom I'm missing), which was owned by 20th Century Fox so that one would technically be Disney now. Then was Family Ties, which was Paramount, and probably Full House, which was Warner. Then was Malcolm in the Middle, which is Fox turned Disney. So it's pretty all over the map.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 19, 2021 22:13:17 GMT -5
The theme song felt more like The Office, which had the same basic mockumentary format, but Modern Family was the mocumentary sitcom about a suburban family so it kind of fits a bit better. The kids were playing with a Nintendo Wii, so that fits around the same time period. Plus, haven't all the sitcoms used as inspiration been ABC shows and thus Disney-owned? I thought I read somewhere that's been the case. So, yeah, Modern Family. Malcolm in the Middle was Fox... which Disney now owns. Family Ties was NBC, that's probably the clearest break from that pattern. The 50s sitcom from the first couple of episodes was vague enough that it could be a number of shows. All that said, most of these likely would count as parodies and as a result would probably not be subject to any serious copywrite claims.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 19, 2021 22:17:56 GMT -5
*shrugs* Okay, then.
But this was definitely more Modern Family than The Office.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 19, 2021 22:18:01 GMT -5
Plus, haven't all the sitcoms used as inspiration been ABC shows and thus Disney-owned? I thought I read somewhere that's been the case. So, yeah, Modern Family. The first few were pulled from various sources. Episode one was Donna Reed meets Dick Van Dyke, but probably closer to the latter, which is owned by CBS and Paramount. Episode Two was mostly Bewitched, which is owned by Sony. The third felt mostly like Rhoda to me (there is probably another sitcom I'm missing), which was owned by 20th Century Fox so that one would technically be Disney now. Then was Family Ties, which was Paramount, and probably Full House, which was Warner. Then was Malcolm in the Middle, which is Fox turned Disney. So it's pretty all over the map. The house in the third episode gave me some pretty clear Brady Bunch vibes and there's also definitely some Bewitched in there.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 19, 2021 22:19:06 GMT -5
You coulda just talked about Al Pacino instead of embarrassing yourself.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 19, 2021 22:20:02 GMT -5
What that theory got wrong is that they're confusing the network that originally aired the shows (which was ABC in a lot of these cases) with the company that actually produced and owns them (which is often different). Like, Modern Family aired on ABC but was actually produced by Fox... which are now both Disney now, but still.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 19, 2021 22:29:13 GMT -5
ABC wasn't always owned by Disney either. Back in the day, the networks worked independently and studios provided product. Then mergers with big companies happened and now CBS is paired with Paramout, ABC is Disney, NBC is Universal, Fox is with assholes, and the CW is the CW (incidentally, that Warner owned network is actually a merger between another Warner owned network, the WB, and the Paramount owned UPN).
Even still, while the networks have parent companies that have studios to work with, they also air products from other studios if they think they can benefit from it airing on their network.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 19, 2021 22:30:49 GMT -5
You coulda just talked about Al Pacino instead of embarrassing yourself. At least I was one of the ones who called Agatha.
Catchy song for her, btw.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 19, 2021 22:35:00 GMT -5
The first few were pulled from various sources. Episode one was Donna Reed meets Dick Van Dyke, but probably closer to the latter, which is owned by CBS and Paramount. Episode Two was mostly Bewitched, which is owned by Sony. The third felt mostly like Rhoda to me (there is probably another sitcom I'm missing), which was owned by 20th Century Fox so that one would technically be Disney now. Then was Family Ties, which was Paramount, and probably Full House, which was Warner. Then was Malcolm in the Middle, which is Fox turned Disney. So it's pretty all over the map. The house in the third episode gave me some pretty clear Brady Bunch vibes and there's also definitely some Bewitched in there. I thought about the Brady Bunch too, but the tone was completely different. Brady Bunch has a bit of "gee whiz" family innocence to it, whereas the 70's WandaVision leans toward a more liberated female lead type of comedy that you would see from that era, like Mary Tyler Moore but I sided with Rhoda because it rang a little truer to that show to me. It might not be taking influence from anything in particular but rather just spinning around in tropes of the decade, which is what all the episodes do so I'm probably trying too hard to connect the dots.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 19, 2021 22:35:44 GMT -5
At least I was one of the ones who called Agatha. Everyone knew. The real question is if they’re using Mephisto or Nightmare. Also, the book in the episode was already used in Agents of Shield to bring in Ghost Rider. It’s a disappointment that 1godzillafan/ Wyldstaar/ thebtskink weren’t all over that. It was, by far, the biggest reveal in the episode. Nerds are dying for those Marvel/Netflix shows to be canon and this is the way.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 20, 2021 6:40:36 GMT -5
The house in the third episode gave me some pretty clear Brady Bunch vibes and there's also definitely some Bewitched in there. I thought about the Brady Bunch too, but the tone was completely different. Brady Bunch has a bit of "gee whiz" family innocence to it, Specifically I thought the house and its décor looked a lot like that show.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 20, 2021 8:49:26 GMT -5
At least I was one of the ones who called Agatha. Everyone knew. The real question is if they’re using Mephisto or Nightmare. Also, the book in the episode was already used in Agents of Shield to bring in Ghost Rider. It’s a disappointment that 1godzillafan / Wyldstaar / thebtskink weren’t all over that. It was, by far, the biggest reveal in the episode. Nerds are dying for those Marvel/Netflix shows to be canon and this is the way. If that book is supposed to be The Darkhold, it's gone through a redesign. The version of it that appeared in Agents of SHIELD doesn't look like that, and neither does the one from the comics.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 20, 2021 10:41:45 GMT -5
I thought about the Brady Bunch too, but the tone was completely different. Brady Bunch has a bit of "gee whiz" family innocence to it, Specifically I thought the house and its décor looked a lot like that show. I'd say that's pretty spot on. The house is very smartly designed to multitask, because it can easily be redesigned from Leave It To Beaver to The Brady Bunch to Full House with very little changes except the house decor and a few modernized aesthetic additions and removals. I've been very impressed by that.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 20, 2021 10:54:24 GMT -5
I dont know who this agatha person is
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2021 11:00:19 GMT -5
If that book is supposed to be The Darkhold, it's gone through a redesign. The version of it that appeared in Agents of SHIELD doesn't look like that, and neither does the one from the comics. It’s also in the Runaways. They used it to introduce Cloak & Dagger. The design of the book comes from the Doctor Strange movie. Remember the scene where Strange walks through the forbidden section of the library and there’s a book missing? You probably don’t, but the nerds do. That’s how all this ties into Doctor Strange. It’s not necessarily the multiverse thing, but Strange needs to get the book back. In the comics, the Darkhold is how Marvel introduced all its supernatural elements. Isn’t Marvel doing Blade with Mahershala Ali? This how they could introduce him. We’re all here worrying about Fantastic Four and X-Men but Marvel low-key setting up Blade and Ghost Rider.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2021 11:36:07 GMT -5
I dont know who this agatha person is She’s a Fantastic Four character. Reed Richards & Sue Storm hired her to be their son’s nanny and she protected him against the Frightful Four (the evil version of the Fantastic Four). She also has a cat that can turn into a giant panther. Although they gave her a rabbit on the show. Agatha then aided the Fantastic Four in their battles at the Negative Zone. The Negative Zone is a parallel dimension to Earth and will no doubt be explored in the Doctor Strange movie. After that, she morphed into an X-Men/Avengers character. Throughout the conclusion of her run on Fantastic Four, it was revealed that she’s one of the witches that survived the Salem Witch Trials. I believe that will be shown in the next episode of WandaVision through flashbacks. Those paparazzi set photos I posted two years ago, that PhantomKnight & thebtskink pretend they never saw, portray Agatha as a Salem witch. Anyway, Wanda got mixed up in all of Agatha’s nonsense and Agatha has spent the last 50 years fucking with Wanda and Vision. Agatha went from a protagonist on Fantastic Four to an antagonist on X-Men and Avengers comics. I don’t think the character has done anything else in the comics. Wyldstaar and 1godzillafan will be more knowledgeable in these matters. I know they straight up made her a villain in Ultimate Fantastic Four. But that’s obviously not the version of the character they’re using for WandaVision.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 20, 2021 11:49:56 GMT -5
I dont know who this agatha person is
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 20, 2021 12:10:57 GMT -5
well that's relevant.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 20, 2021 12:54:56 GMT -5
If that book is supposed to be The Darkhold, it's gone through a redesign. The version of it that appeared in Agents of SHIELD doesn't look like that, and neither does the one from the comics. It’s also in the Runaways. They used it to introduce Cloak & Dagger. The design of the book comes from the Doctor Strange movie. Remember the scene where Strange walks through the forbidden section of the library and there’s a book missing? You probably don’t, but the nerds do. That’s how all this ties into Doctor Strange. It’s not necessarily the multiverse thing, but Strange needs to get the book back. In the comics, the Darkhold is how Marvel introduced all its supernatural elements. Isn’t Marvel doing Blade with Mahershala Ali? This how they could introduce him. We’re all here worrying about Fantastic Four and X-Men but Marvel low-key setting up Blade and Ghost Rider. I stopped watching Runaways after the first couple of episodes, but I did look up some images. The prop they use in Runaways for The Darkhold looks the same as the one used in Agents of SHIELD. It may very well be the MCU version of The Darkhold. The series finale of Agents of SHIELD made it pretty clear that the series takes place in another dimension of the Multiverse.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Feb 20, 2021 12:56:13 GMT -5
Agreed. There have been a lot of retcons regarding those kids over the decades.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2021 13:10:02 GMT -5
There have been a lot of retcons regarding those kids over the decades. It also depends if they’re using Mephisto or Nightmare as the villain and how it all ties into Doctor Strange. Vision can’t exist in the real world. Can the kids? We'll have to see how all this plays out.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 20, 2021 13:11:07 GMT -5
Agreed. There have been a lot of retcons regarding those kids over the decades. I'm still rooting for Master Pandemonium
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Post by Neverending on Feb 20, 2021 13:21:42 GMT -5
Agreed. There have been a lot of retcons regarding those kids over the decades. I'm still rooting for Master Pandemonium ... I don’t know... They might set it up, but I don’t see him being used any time soon.
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