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Post by Neverending on Oct 25, 2014 19:45:41 GMT -5
Haven't seen House Party, so no comment there. Think of Pokemon but way more popular. Just wait a few years. We'll pass it on to our children. What?! Just like Return of the Jedi and you guys voted for that movie to be important. And for the record, Back to the Future Part III is a billion - no, a zillion - times better than Return of the Jedi. WHAT?! Dear Jesus, please help this boy! Samuel Fuller's Run of the Arrow did the same basic story forty three years earlier. Except that movie wasn't a box office hit and a Best Picture winner at the Academy Awards. So, clearly, one movie made a bigger impact. |
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 25, 2014 19:52:00 GMT -5
I don't really see how Dances With Wolves is all that important in the grand scheme of things, but I have a hunch I'm going to be outvoted on that one. The film was a huge deal for its time, and I can't think of too many other respectable depictions of natives in mainstream cinema, before or after. Last of the Mohicans, for one, did it far better and in a less self-glorifying way. Dances with Wolves is one of the worst 10 movies to ever win an Oscar. |
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Post by Dracula on Oct 25, 2014 19:54:23 GMT -5
We reluctantly let Return of the Jedi through because it was a weak year. I guess this is also a weak year, but Star Wars trilogy was significantly more important than the Back to the Future trilogy. Star Wars was an international sensation which (for better or worse) transformed Hollywood, set a template for how movie franchises would be made for twenty years, and created a marketing franchise that is worth a billion dollars today. Back to the Future by contrast was one fairly entertaining movie that was followed by two slightly less effective movies and which ultimately didn't really change all that much in the film industry. There's a reason we showed more preference towards one than the other.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 25, 2014 20:27:44 GMT -5
We reluctantly let Return of the Jedi through because it was a weak year. It really wasn't that weak of a year. You guys are just too stuck up about comedies. Trading Places and The King of Comedy are more respected than Return of the Jedi. Even the biggest Star Wars geeks aren't too crazy about Return of the Jedi. From a business and technical standpoint, that is correct. But thematically and culturally, both movies are neck and neck. And when we get to Indiana Jones, I'm gonna tell you the same thing. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 26, 2014 8:58:41 GMT -5
I hate Pokemon, but I see your point. Who won't find it as cool as the Michael Bay produced version, or whatever cartoon incarnation exists then. I know, I know. Return of the Jedi is extremely flawed, but there's some great stuff. All the material at Jabba's palace is awesome, as is everything revolving around Luke, Darth Vader, and The Emperor. The film also introduced some major developments to the Star Wars mythos like Luke becoming a full on Jedi, Luke and Leia being sisters, Darth Vader sacrificing himself for his son, and the Rebels finally defeating the Empire. I know, I know. I've tried the first film twice. It's entertaining enough but I don't find it that funny or that exciting. I won't deny its place in film history, but it does little for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 9:53:17 GMT -5
PG Cooper has something against Pikachu and the gang.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 26, 2014 10:05:31 GMT -5
It seems to me that this is what w have so far:
Goodfellas (are we really sure about this?)
Dances with Wolves (mostly important for providing inspiration to my dodgeball teams name Dodges with Wolves)
Edward Scissorhands
Close Up
Jacob's Ladder
Though there are rumblings. Maybe instead of Jake's ladder, Total Recall, House Party, or Miller's crossing?
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Post by Dracula on Oct 26, 2014 10:31:34 GMT -5
I'm good with those five I guess.
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Post by Jibbs on Oct 26, 2014 11:11:26 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 26, 2014 11:44:19 GMT -5
It seems to me that this is what w have so far: Goodfellas (are we really sure about this?)Dances with Wolves (mostly important for providing inspiration to my dodgeball teams name Dodges with Wolves) Edward Scissorhands Close Up Jacob's Ladder Though there are rumblings. Maybe instead of Jake's ladder, Total Recall, House Party, or Miller's crossing? Damn right we are! Goodfellas is universally considered great and is considered by most to be the best film of the year. It's one of Scorsese's most perfectly crafted films while still being really accessible to a mainstream audience. Goodfellas needs to be on the list. Anyway, I'm satisfied with these five. P.S. I like your Dodgeball team. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 26, 2014 13:25:00 GMT -5
It seems to me that this is what w have so far: Goodfellas (are we really sure about this?)Dances with Wolves (mostly important for providing inspiration to my dodgeball teams name Dodges with Wolves) Edward Scissorhands Close Up Jacob's Ladder Though there are rumblings. Maybe instead of Jake's ladder, Total Recall, House Party, or Miller's crossing? Damn right we are! Goodfellas is universally considered great and is considered by most to be the best film of the year. It's one of Scorsese's most perfectly crafted films while still being really accessible to a mainstream audience. Goodfellas needs to be on the list. I was being sarcastic. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 26, 2014 13:50:50 GMT -5
Well, okay. We're gonna move on then.
Big year for the next year: 1954
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Post by iverdawg on Oct 26, 2014 14:28:13 GMT -5
I know Rear Window is probably going to get a lot of love this year, and rightfully so, but I'll just say that Dial M for Murder shouldn't be overlooked. That being said, I think both should probably be included in the five.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 26, 2014 14:34:51 GMT -5
Damn right we are! Goodfellas is universally considered great and is considered by most to be the best film of the year. It's one of Scorsese's most perfectly crafted films while still being really accessible to a mainstream audience. Goodfellas needs to be on the list. I was being sarcastic. Oh...I seem to recall you not loving Goodfellas as much as everyone else. Sorry, I get a bit over-excited when it comes to Goodfellas  For 1954... 1. Seven Samurai: The ultimate Akira Kurosawa film. A masterpiece, one that's been borrowed from both directly and indirectly since it's release. 2. Rear Window: This isn't Alfred Hitchcock's most iconic film, but it might be his most representative, perfectly combining a dark plot of murder and obsession with Hitchcock's dark humour. The film is also rich in subtext which makes it very rewatchable. The fact that the plot has been ripped off and parodied many times since seals the deal. 3. On the Waterfront: Screen acting was never the same after Marlon Brando's work here. The film is still among the most highly regarded works of the 1950s. 4. Godzilla: There are a lot of monster movies from the 50s that are really about the dangers of nuclear weapons. Godzilla is the ultimate example as it's actually quite dark and somber. While the sequels may not retain that same dignity, the fact that there are 30 some films and counting speaks to the Godzilla's impact. 5. La Strada: The film that first brought Federico Fellini international attention and the one he felt was most representative of his filmography. I think Fellini would go on to make better movies, but La Strada is undeniably important all the same. Honourable MentionDial M for Murder: A very fun Hitchcock film, but ultimately a minor one. Rear Window handles similar elements much more effectively. |
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Post by Jibbs on Oct 26, 2014 14:40:02 GMT -5
1. Seven Samurai
2. Godzilla
3. On the Waterfront
4. Rear Window
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Post by Neverending on Oct 26, 2014 15:00:18 GMT -5
I love how you guys agreed on Close-Up, a movie that wasn't a real contender, for the sake of moving on. Based on what people said, the 5 movies should have been: Dances with Wolves Edward Scissorhands Goodfellas Jacob's Ladder Total Recall Carmen Jones Gojira (a/k/a Godzilla) On the Waterfront Rear Window Seven Samurai |
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Post by Dracula on Oct 26, 2014 15:28:45 GMT -5
I love how you guys agreed on Close-Up, a movie that wasn't a real contender, for the sake of moving on. Based on what people said, the 5 movies should have been: Dances with Wolves Edward Scissorhands Goodfellas Jacob's Ladder Total Recall I wasn't about to let Verhoven bump Kiarostami a second time. 1954Seven Samurai (No Brainer) Rear Window (No Brainer) On the Waterfront (No Brainer) Godzilla (Not going to fight it) La Strada (Famous Fellini film) |
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 26, 2014 15:39:59 GMT -5
For 1954... 1. Seven Samurai: The ultimate Akira Kurosawa film. A masterpiece, one that's been borrowed from both directly and indirectly since it's release. 2. Rear Window: This isn't Alfred Hitchcock's most iconic film, but it might be his most representative, perfectly combining a dark plot of murder and obsession with Hitchcock's dark humour. The film is also rich in subtext which makes it very rewatchable. The fact that the plot has been ripped off and parodied many times since seals the deal. 3. On the Waterfront: Screen acting was never the same after Marlon Brando's work here. The film is still among the most highly regarded works of the 1950s. 4. Godzilla: There are a lot of monster movies from the 50s that are really about the dangers of nuclear weapons. Godzilla is the ultimate example as it's actually quite dark and somber. While the sequels may not retain that same dignity, the fact that there are 30 some films and counting speaks to the Godzilla's impact. 5. La Strada: The film that first brought Federico Fellini international attention and the one he felt was most representative of his filmography. I think Fellini would go on to make better movies, but La Strada is undeniably important all the same. 1954Seven Samurai (No Brainer) Rear Window (No Brainer) On the Waterfront (No Brainer) Godzilla (Not going to fight it) La Strada (Famous Fellini film) I like the cut of your jib, Dracula. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 26, 2014 15:51:42 GMT -5
White Christmas?
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Post by Jibbs on Oct 26, 2014 16:22:22 GMT -5
Carmen Jones Gojira (a/k/a Godzilla) On the Waterfront Rear Window Seven Samurai
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Post by Neverending on Oct 26, 2014 16:33:55 GMT -5
I can already tell that Fellini will be chosen, so let me point out that Carmen Jones is the first major Hollywood movie to feature a Black cast. If you guys accepted Dances With Wolves because it was important to Native Americans, how can you possibly ignore Carmen Jones? Despite its iconic status, neither CS! or the United States government agrees with you. Here's the National Film Registry choices for 1954: Carmen Jones The House in the Middle Johnny Guitar On the Waterfront Rear Window Sabrina Salt of the Earth Seven Brides for Seven Brothers A Star Is Born A Time Out of War |
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 26, 2014 16:51:14 GMT -5
aka Shichinin no samurai. [/p]
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Post by Dracula on Oct 26, 2014 16:57:30 GMT -5
I can already tell that Fellini will be chosen, so let me point out that Carmen Jones is the first major Hollywood movie to feature a Black cast. If you guys accepted Dances With Wolves because it was important to Native Americans, how can you possibly ignore Carmen Jones? I haven't seen Carmen Jones, but I might be open to it. Make your case. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 26, 2014 16:58:58 GMT -5
I can already tell that Fellini will be chosen, so let me point out that Carmen Jones is the first major Hollywood movie to feature a Black cast. If you guys accepted Dances With Wolves because it was important to Native Americans, how can you possibly ignore Carmen Jones? Despite its iconic status, neither CS! or the United States government agrees with you. Here's the National Film Registry choices for 1954: Carmen Jones The House in the Middle Johnny Guitar On the Waterfront Rear Window Sabrina Salt of the Earth Seven Brides for Seven Brothers A Star Is Born A Time Out of War Hey, I'm open to it. I've wikipedia'd it, but I can't tell how successful it was at breaking barriers or what have you. What else do you know about it? |
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 26, 2014 17:21:06 GMT -5
Rear Window
On the Waterfront
Godzilla
Seven Samarai
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