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Post by iverdawg on Dec 2, 2014 22:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 2, 2014 22:54:00 GMT -5
And I wanna vote for The Thin Blue Line in 88. Given that this is Ian's baby though, I'd say he makes the call.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 2, 2014 23:01:35 GMT -5
Ian worked at McDonalds. You work at McDonalds. Super Size Me is about McDonalds. The ball is in your court, Cooper. If documentaries will be allowed, this is the moment to make it happen. Talk sense into your fellow Canadian. |
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 2, 2014 23:24:07 GMT -5
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Post by Dracula on Dec 2, 2014 23:32:17 GMT -5
I think docs are perfectly acceptable if they are indeed important works of filmmaking. Key word: filmmaking. Not important works of propaganda. Fahrenheit 9/11 might not have single handedly sunk a presidency (as if any movie could), but it did get people talking in a way that very few documentaries do and it caused a major stir. It won a Palme d'Or at Cannes and it was about as widely seen as any doc ever would be and it (along with Moore's other films which this will sort of represent) set the template for the "crusading documentarian putting himself at the center of an investigation" form which has influenced many other topical documentaries including Morgan Spurlock's.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 2, 2014 23:58:25 GMT -5
Ian worked at McDonalds. You work at McDonalds. Super Size Me is about McDonalds. The ball is in your court, Cooper. If documentaries will be allowed, this is the moment to make it happen. Talk sense into your fellow Canadian. I've never worked at McDonalds. |
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Post by Fanible on Dec 2, 2014 23:59:43 GMT -5
If Neverending says you work at McDonalds, you work at McDonalds.
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 3, 2014 0:08:47 GMT -5
I think docs are perfectly acceptable if they are indeed important works of filmmaking. Key word: filmmaking. Not important works of propaganda. Fahrenheit 9/11 might not have single handedly sunk a presidency (as if any movie could), but it did get people talking in a way that very few documentaries do and it caused a major stir. It won a Palme d'Or at Cannes and it was about as widely seen as any doc ever would be and it (along with Moore's other films which this will sort of represent) set the template for the "crusading documentarian putting himself at the center of an investigation" form which has influenced many other topical documentaries including Morgan Spurlock's. Seven Up might have been in for 1954 if that was the case |
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Post by Knerys on Dec 3, 2014 0:57:45 GMT -5
The Incredibles. I get that the film was an improvement in computer animation, but it seems more like a logical step than a leap forward. Without this step you would still be watching movies about anamorphic talking animals or creature features. Logical? Yes. Simple. No? I'm willing to recognize the influence Passion of Christ had. I think Fahrenheit 9/11 is overrated. |
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Post by sabin26 on Dec 3, 2014 1:15:55 GMT -5
Fahrenheit is ridiciously overrated.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 3, 2014 1:21:00 GMT -5
I don't particularly like Fahrenheit 9/11 either, it's probably my least favorite of Michael Moore's films, but it's the one that captured the zeitgeist and became a phenomenon.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2014 5:12:25 GMT -5
I think docs are perfectly acceptable if they are indeed important works of filmmaking. Key word: filmmaking. Not important works of propaganda. Fahrenheit 9/11 might not have single handedly sunk a presidency (as if any movie could), but it did get people talking in a way that very few documentaries do and it caused a major stir. It won a Palme d'Or at Cannes and it was about as widely seen as any doc ever would be and it (along with Moore's other films which this will sort of represent) set the template for the "crusading documentarian putting himself at the center of an investigation" form which has influenced many other topical documentaries including Morgan Spurlock's. Here's the flaw with your argument. Michael Moore's documentary style began with Roger & Me in 1989. It's the documentary that created public awareness for how the auto industry destroyed Detroit and Flint. It put Moore on the map and it's currently preserved by the U.S. government. Plus, the box office success of Fahrenheit is a direct result of Bowling for Columbine. Moore got so much attention for that documentary that his follow-up was always gonna be high-profile. And the fact that Farenheit was released in an Election year and Moore went on every political show to criticize Bush added to that. But ultimately, like I said, Fahrenheit accomplished nothing. It was all hype. Super Size Me, by contrast, forced a Billion dollar corporation to change its ways. Or at least pretend it did. It's obvious Super Size Me is more important than Fahrenheit. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 3, 2014 20:21:28 GMT -5
I'd rather not bring docs into it, but what we could do is have a documentary honourable mention or something when necessary.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 3, 2014 20:30:59 GMT -5
In that case, my revised list:
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2. The Bourne Supremacy
3. Collateral
4. The Passion of the Christ
5. Shaun of the Dead
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2014 20:31:18 GMT -5
I'd rather not bring docs into it, but what we could do is have a documentary honourable mention or something when necessary. Well... in that case... Saw and Primer are tied for 5th place. It's your vote, I guess. Or we can re-visit some of the choices. I don't know. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2014 20:33:22 GMT -5
In that case, my revised list: 1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 2. The Bourne Supremacy 3. Collateral 4. The Passion of the Christ 5. Shaun of the Dead Now it's a 3-way tie between Passion, Saw and Prime for 5th. |
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Post by Dracula on Dec 3, 2014 22:06:10 GMT -5
ffs, alright, new ballot:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Saw
Anchorman
Collateral
The Bourne Supremacy
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Post by Neverending on Dec 3, 2014 22:37:43 GMT -5
Fascinating. Oh well. Ian can double check and do his own tally, but it looks like Dracula sealed the 5th spot for Saw. |
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 3, 2014 22:48:58 GMT -5
Do we need to resubmit entire ballots or do we have a few locks?
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 3, 2014 23:28:10 GMT -5
My choices would be Passion, saw, anchorman, collateral, Bourne.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 23:34:20 GMT -5
Anything but Passion of the Christ. It wasn't popular with anyone outside of religious sects. Watching a guy get tortured for two hours is not groundbreaking. It was only mildly interesting because they spoke in Latin, Aramaic, and other dead languages.
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 4, 2014 0:05:08 GMT -5
Eternal Sunshine
Primer
Incredibles
Bourne Supremacy
Passion of the Christ
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Post by Knerys on Dec 4, 2014 1:20:07 GMT -5
Mean Girls
Primer
The Incredibles
Enternal Sunshine
Passion
I'm out.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 4, 2014 5:20:18 GMT -5
Anchorman
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Mean Girls
The Passion of the Christ
Saw
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Post by Deexan on Dec 4, 2014 6:23:59 GMT -5
Revised based on recent events:
Anchorman
Eternal Sunshine
Mean Girls
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Bourne
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