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Post by thebtskink on Jul 19, 2023 19:34:27 GMT -5
Fury Road
The Martian
Carol
Ex Machina
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Can be persuaded outside of Fury Road. Not really the strongest "important" year.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 19, 2023 23:21:07 GMT -5
you're missing a pretty massive success in Top Gun: Maverick, an undeniable phenomenon which follows the Force Awakens playbook to a tee. The only difference is Maverick keeps its legacy character at the center rather than moving them to the periphery, but the blueprint is the same. I’d argue that Top Gun: Maverick took its lessons from Creed. Those shitty Halloween movies (Evil Dies Tonight!!) felt more in line with Kathleen Kennedy era LucasFilm. If Force Awakens has importance it’s as an example of what NOT to do. Creed is an example of what TO DO. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 4, 2023 11:27:28 GMT -5
Okay, Fury Road, Force Awakens, Big Short are in.
Two spots still, runners up are Tangerine, Compton, Ex Machina, Carol
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 14:11:27 GMT -5
Tangerine and Ex Machina
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 4, 2023 14:20:33 GMT -5
Tangerine and Carol.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 4, 2023 14:59:06 GMT -5
Tangerine and Compton.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 4, 2023 16:29:52 GMT -5
,I understand why tangerine works, I'm not convinced on the others. why is ex machina important?
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 16:42:39 GMT -5
,I understand why tangerine works, I'm not convinced on the others. why is ex machina important? All three of its cast members went on to be pretty big deals in the half-decade to come, as did Alex Garland, and it was also an early-ish "win" for A24.
How important is all of that? In the grand scheme of things not particularly, but neither are the other ones IMO. It just kind of feels like it's going to have more staying power and inspire other things. When we look at recent years like this the standard for importance is kind of different.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 4, 2023 16:52:38 GMT -5
,I understand why tangerine works, I'm not convinced on the others While Drac made a pretty good case against Carol, I still suspect when someone writes the "Queer Cinemas in the 2010s" book, Carol will be on the cover. |
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 17:27:04 GMT -5
For the record, if it's between Compton and Carol I'd vote Carol.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2023 17:54:22 GMT -5
Voting for Compton too. Literally thought of IanTheCool when I came across this trailer. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 4, 2023 17:59:12 GMT -5
Voting for Compton too. Literally thought of IanTheCool when I came across this trailer. Yeah I audibly sighed in the theater when this showed. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 4, 2023 18:17:25 GMT -5
I don't get the argument for Straight Outta Compton at all. Popular biopics of musicians had been made before and continue to be made after. It's better than most but it isn't particularly innovative and I don't see its influence beyond focusing on a group popular in the 80s and 90s rather than the 50s and 60s.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2023 18:19:19 GMT -5
I don't get the argument for Straight Outta Compton at all. Popular biopics of musicians had been made before and continue to be made after. It's better than most but it isn't particularly innovative and I don't see its influence beyond focusing on a group popular in the 80s and 90s rather than the 50s and 60s. Coop didn’t watch the Bob Marley trailer. |
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 18:33:59 GMT -5
Voting for Compton too. Literally thought of IanTheCool when I came across this trailer. Has a lot more in common with Bohemian Rhapsody, which was much more interested in making its subject into a messianic martyr and built up to a famous live performance. |
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2023 19:28:09 GMT -5
Has a lot more in common with Bohemian Rhapsody, which was much more interested in making its subject into a messianic martyr and built up to a famous live performance. Bohemian Rhapsody lacked the social commentary. Yeah, Freddy was gay and died of AIDS, but that was his personal life and had little to no impact on his community. NWA and Bob Marley are more than just artists. They sparked a cultural revolution. At least that’s what their respective movies wanna say. |
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 19:33:38 GMT -5
Has a lot more in common with Bohemian Rhapsody, which was much more interested in making its subject into a messianic martyr and built up to a famous live performance. Bohemian Rhapsody lacked the social commentary. Yeah, Freddy was gay and died of AIDS, but that was his personal life and had little to no impact on his community. NWA and Bob Marley are more than just artists. They sparked a cultural revolution. At least that’s what their respective movies wanna say. One Love is going to be about Marley uniting warring political factions in common awe of his personality while Straight Outta Compton is about active rebellion against the status quo. I don't think that's quite the same thing.
It's called "One Love" instead of "Get Up, Stand Up" for a reason
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2023 19:38:58 GMT -5
One Love is going to be about Marley uniting warring political factions in common awe of his personality while Straight Outta Compton is about active rebellion against the status quo. I don't think that's quite the same thing. In that case, Straight Outta Compton has more in common with Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo. We’re not judging a movie by its plot, but by its tone and intent. The Bob Marley movie wants to have the cultural relevance of NWA, not Freddy Mercury and Elton John or even the Elvis movie. |
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 19:48:21 GMT -5
One Love is going to be about Marley uniting warring political factions in common awe of his personality while Straight Outta Compton is about active rebellion against the status quo. I don't think that's quite the same thing. In that case, Straight Outta Compton has more in common with Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo. We’re not judging a movie by its plot, but by its tone and intent. The Bob Marley movie wants to have the cultural relevance of NWA, not Freddy Mercury and Elton John or even the Elvis movie. I don't think it does though, it's digging up an aged situation in a foreign country in order to send an inane kumbaya message at the end rather than applying Marley's music to any modern or relevant controversy. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 4, 2023 20:05:33 GMT -5
I don't get the argument for Straight Outta Compton at all. Popular biopics of musicians had been made before and continue to be made after. It's better than most but it isn't particularly innovative and I don't see its influence beyond focusing on a group popular in the 80s and 90s rather than the 50s and 60s. I don't think it's a great movie by any means. But it was a hit at the box office, well reviewed, and people were definitely buzzing about it when it came out. Do I think it's better than Ex Machina or Carol? Not even remotely. But I don't think either of those movies are important and Compton definitely had more relevance than either of them. Embrace of the Serpent over all these movies. |
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Post by Dracula on Aug 4, 2023 21:37:17 GMT -5
Is it too late to bring Beasts of No Nation back into this?
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 5, 2023 7:53:59 GMT -5
I don't get the argument for Straight Outta Compton at all. Popular biopics of musicians had been made before and continue to be made after. It's better than most but it isn't particularly innovative and I don't see its influence beyond focusing on a group popular in the 80s and 90s rather than the 50s and 60s. I don't think it's a great movie by any means. But it was a hit at the box office, well reviewed, and people were definitely buzzing about it when it came out Was it really though? I know the movie did well, but looking at Box-Office Mojo it came in that year at 19th at the domestic box-office. The SpongeBob Movie, Fifty Shades of Grey, and The Revenant all did better, in addition to the many blockbusters you'd expect to. And while it was liked, I don't recall critics championing it particularly, nor has it really been subject to loving retrospectives or seem to stick around much in the public concious. If we're talking about the 4 movies still circling discussion, I'd rank them 1. Carol 2. Beasts of No Nation 3. Ex Machina 4. Straight Outta Compton |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 5, 2023 13:48:03 GMT -5
Was it really though? I know the movie did well, but looking at Box-Office Mojo it came in that year at 19th at the domestic box-office. The SpongeBob Movie, Fifty Shades of Grey, and The Revenant all did better, in addition to the many blockbusters you'd expect to. And while it was liked, I don't recall critics championing it particularly, nor has it really been subject to loving retrospectives or seem to stick around much in the public concious. If we're talking about the 4 movies still circling discussion, I'd rank them 1. Carol 2. Beasts of No Nation 3. Ex Machina 4. Straight Outta Compton Hmmm, I guess that is true. To be frank I don't think any of these are good candidates to be logged as important, but I'll change my stance. 19th at domestic box office is not as impressive as I recall. Changing Compton to Ex Machina. |
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Post by Dracula on Aug 5, 2023 14:11:57 GMT -5
Was it really though? I know the movie did well, but looking at Box-Office Mojo it came in that year at 19th at the domestic box-office. The SpongeBob Movie, Fifty Shades of Grey, and The Revenant all did better, in addition to the many blockbusters you'd expect to. And while it was liked, I don't recall critics championing it particularly, nor has it really been subject to loving retrospectives or seem to stick around much in the public concious. If we're talking about the 4 movies still circling discussion, I'd rank them 1. Carol 2. Beasts of No Nation 3. Ex Machina 4. Straight Outta Compton Hmmm, I guess that is true. To be frank I don't think any of these are good candidates to be logged as important, but I'll change my stance. 19th at domestic box office is not as impressive as I recall. It felt like a bigger deal at the time because it came out in late August when nothing else was out and it managed to be number one at the box office for three weeks for lack of competition but the overall take wasn't huge. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 5, 2023 17:01:12 GMT -5
It felt like a bigger deal at the time because it came out in late August when nothing else was out and it managed to be number one at the box office for three weeks for lack of competition but the overall take wasn't huge. That's why I thought it was a bigger hit because I remembered it holding down the top spot for consecutive weeks. |
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