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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 6, 2016 10:06:16 GMT -5
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 6, 2016 13:05:21 GMT -5
The Greatest Show on Earth
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 6, 2016 13:19:52 GMT -5
I believe The African Queen is 1951.
And The Greatest Show on Earth is only important because it's far and away the worst movie to ever win Best Picture.
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 6, 2016 13:39:40 GMT -5
I believe The African Queen is 1951. And The Greatest Show on Earth is only important because it's far and away the worst movie to ever win Best Picture. Fixed thanks, there was an entry on the wiki page I misinterpreted. As for The Greatest Show on Earth, it features an important 1952 snapshot of the Ringling Bros, Barnum & Bailey Circus. It is a moment in history never to be seen again. It was in the years after WWII when the big top era was ending and business was slowing down for them. They were still reeling from the circus fire of 1944. Capturing famous acts like Emmett Kelly and others in their heyday makes this a very important film. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 6, 2016 20:42:43 GMT -5
I believe The African Queen is 1951. And The Greatest Show on Earth is only important because it's far and away the worst movie to ever win Best Picture. Fixed thanks, there was an entry on the wiki page I misinterpreted. As for The Greatest Show on Earth, it features an important 1952 snapshot of the Ringling Bros, Barnum & Bailey Circus. It is a moment in history never to be seen again. It was in the years after WWII when the big top era was ending and business was slowing down for them. They were still reeling from the circus fire of 1944. Capturing famous acts like Emmett Kelly and others in their heyday makes this a very important film. I don't see how that makes the film itself important. By that logic The Great Ziegfeld would be a lock for 1936. |
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 7, 2016 1:46:07 GMT -5
Fixed thanks, there was an entry on the wiki page I misinterpreted. As for The Greatest Show on Earth, it features an important 1952 snapshot of the Ringling Bros, Barnum & Bailey Circus. It is a moment in history never to be seen again. It was in the years after WWII when the big top era was ending and business was slowing down for them. They were still reeling from the circus fire of 1944. Capturing famous acts like Emmett Kelly and others in their heyday makes this a very important film. I don't see how that makes the film itself important. By that logic The Great Ziegfeld would be a lock for 1936. Not the same thing. This is not a reeinactment, this is more like documentary footage behind the acting. It shows a slice of real circus life with not only the acts, but also the circus life with the setting up and tearing down of the tents, equipment and animals for travel to another show. In addition to the film actors, the real Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey's Circus' 1951 troupe appears in the film, with its complement of 1400 people, hundreds of animals, and 60 carloads of equipment and tents. The actors learned their respective circus roles and participated in the acts. The film's storyline is supported by lavish production values, actual circus acts, and documentary, behind-the-rings looks at the massive logistics effort which made big top circuses possible. - wiki |
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 7, 2016 9:22:34 GMT -5
Thats a fair argument.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 7, 2016 9:51:15 GMT -5
Coop just hates the circus.
He had a traumatic experience with a circus elephant's trunk going where it shouldn't back in the day.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 7, 2016 10:02:56 GMT -5
I don't see how that makes the film itself important. By that logic The Great Ziegfeld would be a lock for 1936. Not the same thing. This is not a reeinactment, this is more like documentary footage behind the acting. It shows a slice of real circus life with not only the acts, but also the circus life with the setting up and tearing down of the tents, equipment and animals for travel to another show. In addition to the film actors, the real Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey's Circus' 1951 troupe appears in the film, with its complement of 1400 people, hundreds of animals, and 60 carloads of equipment and tents. The actors learned their respective circus roles and participated in the acts. The film's storyline is supported by lavish production values, actual circus acts, and documentary, behind-the-rings looks at the massive logistics effort which made big top circuses possible. - wiki It sounds like it's a lot more important to circus history than film history... |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 7, 2016 10:05:48 GMT -5
That's all well and good and no one is doubting the lavish production (it was a Cecil B. DeMille film after all). But that movie is trash. Awful storyline and characters and no ability to grapple the numerous extras and sets into anything of substance. Look up any "worst of the Best Picture" lists on a credible source, and if The Greatest Show on Earth isn't #1 it's right there. It only won because we were locked in McCarthyism at the time, and they had to go with a safe, crappy choice in order to not be blacklisted for choosing something like High Noon. It's still crazy Singin' in the Rain didn't win. What a joke.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 7, 2016 15:00:30 GMT -5
I don't see how that makes the film itself important. By that logic The Great Ziegfeld would be a lock for 1936. Not the same thing. This is not a reeinactment, this is more like documentary footage behind the acting. It shows a slice of real circus life with not only the acts, but also the circus life with the setting up and tearing down of the tents, equipment and animals for travel to another show. In addition to the film actors, the real Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey's Circus' 1951 troupe appears in the film, with its complement of 1400 people, hundreds of animals, and 60 carloads of equipment and tents. The actors learned their respective circus roles and participated in the acts. The film's storyline is supported by lavish production values, actual circus acts, and documentary, behind-the-rings looks at the massive logistics effort which made big top circuses possible. - wiki I get what you're saying, I just don't see how it makes the film itself important on any cinematic level. If anything, the presentation is downright lazy. DeMille just locks the camera down and films acts without adding anything to the proceedings. I understand that the film depicts an interesting era/form of entertainment, but its importance is built entirely on the importance of the era. The film itself adds nothing. In another year I'd probably conaider it more seriously, but we've got a lot of films from 1952 that did exciting, bold, and cinematic things which pushed the medium in one way or another. Coop just hates the circus. He had a traumatic experience with a circus elephant's trunk going where it shouldn't back in the day. To this day I can't watch Dumbo. |
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 8, 2016 3:41:05 GMT -5
.I still stand firmly behind my choice. The fact that it does document circus history MAKES it an important film.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 13, 2016 10:30:57 GMT -5
My choices are:
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This is cinerama
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 13, 2016 21:55:20 GMT -5
I get the argument for This is Cinerama, but the film seema more like a showcase for the tech rather than something worthy or experimental in and of itself.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 13, 2016 22:06:07 GMT -5
This is Cinerama seems like an odd choice given this threads previous aversion to documentaries and shorts.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 13, 2016 23:39:39 GMT -5
Well, the circus one then.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 14, 2016 5:15:00 GMT -5
Well, the circus one then. Over my dead body |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 14, 2016 8:17:50 GMT -5
I'm with Drac. The Greatest Show on Earth is universally acknowledged to be a total waste which has had virtually no influence moving foreward. No one would talk about it at all if not for its highly questionable Best Picture win.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 24, 2016 10:33:25 GMT -5
Singin' in the Rain Ikiru Umberto D. High Noon Europa '51 Alright, votes are in and these are the 5. Next year: 1995 |
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2016 10:39:16 GMT -5
Seven
The Usual Suspects
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Before Sunrise
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Post by Ramplate on Jul 24, 2016 12:39:14 GMT -5
If you've ever been to a Disney like park, they use the technology developed for Cinerama quite extensively. Now if that's not an important development in film, I don't know what is. No, it is not like a documentary, and it didn't work well for movie going, But it was great for entertainment purposes.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 24, 2016 12:48:42 GMT -5
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Post by RedStorm901 on Jul 24, 2016 14:20:45 GMT -5
Seven was an awesome film but I believe it should be changed out for Apollo 13, the others should stay.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2016 14:47:49 GMT -5
Seven was an awesome film but I believe it should be changed out for Apollo 13, the others should stay. Given that the "Serial Killer kills people in grotesque ways and leaves cryptic clues for the cops" formula has been so extensively ripped off, I disagree. Entire procedural TV shows seem to be based on Seven. |
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