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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2014 18:33:34 GMT -5
1937 was the year that Daffy Duck made his debut. Let's just make that #5 and move on to another year.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 28, 2014 19:03:25 GMT -5
There's Heidi, isnt that an important family film or something?
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 28, 2014 19:04:34 GMT -5
Sure.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2014 20:09:55 GMT -5
There's Heidi, isnt that an important family film or something? Yes and no. It's the first of many Heidi adaptations, but it's one of the least successful Shirley Temple movies.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 28, 2014 23:25:35 GMT -5
Okay everyone, throw out your picks for 5th movie, and I will post a new year tomorrow morning.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 28, 2014 23:28:42 GMT -5
The awful truth
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Post by Dracula on Oct 28, 2014 23:46:45 GMT -5
I voted Lost Horizon initially, but I'm not too passionate about that so The Awful Truth would also be a good choice.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 29, 2014 7:47:37 GMT -5
Done.
Next year: 2006
Now this year should generate some discussion.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 29, 2014 8:45:11 GMT -5
1. United 93: It captures the most important moment of the 21st century in a way that is emotional, visceral, and respectable. The way it presents the story as very authentic to the point of almost feeling like a documentary has definitely had an impact going forward, but no film utilizes that technique as good as this one.
2. Borat: Sacha Baron Cohen was known to some degree for his TV work, but Borat brought he and his brand of comedy to the mainstream. It started the trend of these experimental comedies where the fictional character interacts with real people and despite being a very offbeat style of comedy, the film was extremely successful, provoked a lot of discussion, and permeated pop-culture. Everyone had a shitty Borat impression to share after this movie.
3. Children of Men: This film is hailed by a masterpiece by pretty much everyone who sees it. From fanboy types who are mostly interested in comic book movies, to highly regarded critics; no matter who you are, Children of Men impresses. It's one of the most technically impressive films of the decade and its depiction of a world falling apart is haunting, profound, and feels authentic.
4. Letters from Iwo Jima: A very thoughtful meditation on war that really resonates. This is also a bold step for Eastwood as a director. Most of his movies are very limited on a stylistic level, focusing instead on just tight storytelling. Letters has a much more lyrical quality which is almost Mallick esque, while still being accessible to a mainstream audience. Beyond that, it's human depiction of "the enemy" is rare in Hollywood movies, and its important that side be shown.
5. Pan's Labyrinth: I'm not as in love with this as everyone else, but there's no denying the impact Pan's Lanyrinth had on many of the people who saw it. This is a movie that elicits very passionate love from its fans and has some of the most memorable imagery in recent films. The fantasy story is a lot darker than your typical fairy tale, and by placing it within the context of real human tragedy, the whole thing has a greater sense of weight.
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The Departed: I love this movie and I'm glad Scorsese finally got his Oscar, but I mostly love it for craft than for any original ideas or concepts. It's still a great movie, but it just doesn't leave the impact the ones listed do.
Casino Royale: Some will argue this needs to be on because it revived the Bond series, but given how successful Die Another Day was at the box-office, I'm willing to bet the 21st entry would have still been successful regardless. Anyway, while the film did bring Bond back to his roots, it's also clearly riffing on the Bourne series and Batman Begins. I'm also not entirely sure how successful this was as every Craig Bond film has ended on the note, "Now the Bond you know and love is hear."
Babel: I love it, but hyperlink cinema was on the decline even then and this doesn't do much with the formula.
The Lives of Others: The examination of a surveillance state is probably more important now than ever, but the actual film seems to have fallen out of memory, which is a shame.
The Prestige: Well-made, with a compelling story and some solid acting, but it seems minor in Chris Nolan's filmography. I know it has its fans, but I don't see it catching on with the general public any time soon.
Apocalypto: This movie is really well-crafted and a lot of fun to watch, but there's not much to say beyond that.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 29, 2014 8:45:15 GMT -5
United 93: Dramatization of one of the era defining events of modern history. The film announced Paul Greengrass as a great filmmkaer beyond the Bourne series. Children of Men: Made super long tracking shorts trendy again and has been sort of the standard by which modern post-apocalyptic films are judged against. Pan's Labyrinth: Has some of the most iconic monsters of the modern era, made Gothic fairy tales a trend, made Guillermo del Toro a name brand. Borat: A cultural sensation. Has inspired other comedies centered around public interaction. For better or worse inspired a million bad impressions. Will probably be the first thing that comes to mind when the nation of Kazakhstan comes up for generations. Mission: Impossible III: First feature film from J.J. Abrams. For better or worse brought a certain level of snark to the modern blockbuster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 8:52:40 GMT -5
Children of Men Pan's Labyrinth United 93
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And Borat, I guess.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2014 9:12:55 GMT -5
This year should generate some discussion. An Inconvenient Truth Cocaine Cowboys Fast Food Nation V for Vendetta Who Killed the Electric Car?
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Post by Deexan on Oct 29, 2014 9:17:38 GMT -5
United 93 Children of Men Pan's Labyrinth An Inconvenient Truth
I'm on board with these.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2014 10:41:06 GMT -5
United 93 Children of Men Pan's Labyrinth An Inconvenient Truth I'm on board with these. Be a good British boy and add V for Vendetta to your list.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 29, 2014 10:52:52 GMT -5
Are we considering documentaries?
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2014 10:57:05 GMT -5
Are we considering documentaries? 2006 was an excellent year for documentaries, so we should.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 29, 2014 11:03:56 GMT -5
Fair enough, but there is a lot of non-documentary films to be considered as well. This is like the reverse of 1937.
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Post by iverdawg on Oct 29, 2014 11:03:58 GMT -5
Pan's Labyrinth - One of those few foreign language films that reaches a wide audience. Children of Men - What's there to say. Borat - A true phenomenon. Once - A refreshing indie in a genre that's almost always dominated by high production costs and glamour. Paprika - Not Satoshi Kon's best film, but it reached the most people, and it was his final film.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2014 11:36:45 GMT -5
Well, not much of a discussion like Ian hoped for. The consensus seems to be
Borat Children of Men Pan's Labyrinth United 93
And since Deexan and I chose An Inconvenient Truth, the only other movie with more than one vote, then that should take the 5th spot.
Next year, Ian.
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Post by Deexan on Oct 29, 2014 11:40:26 GMT -5
United 93 Children of Men Pan's Labyrinth An Inconvenient Truth I'm on board with these. Be a good British boy and add V for Vendetta to your list.. I don't hold V in the same high esteem that many others seem to, it's one film I keep meaning to watch again.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2014 11:49:22 GMT -5
Be a good British boy and add V for Vendetta to your list.. I don't hold V in the same high esteem that many others seem to, it's one film I keep meaning to watch again. It's influence is undeniable. The whole Anonymous social movement was inspired by the movie and the Guy Fawkes mask has become iconic. If Ian doesn't want documentaries, then V for Vendetta should take the 5th spot.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 29, 2014 12:47:01 GMT -5
I throw my support for fifth behind Letter from Iwo Jima. One of the rare glimpses for the opposite side of a war, and a beautifully crafted one at that.
If Seven Up can't get in, why can An Inconvenient Truth?
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Post by Dracula on Oct 29, 2014 13:45:27 GMT -5
Are we considering documentaries? I'm not oppsed to the idea of documentaries, but I feel like they need to really matter. Farenheit 9/11 for example should probably be included if we ever do 2004. I could see an argument for An Inconvenient Truth... maybe. Pan's Labyrinth - One of those few foreign language films that reaches a wide audience. Children of Men - What's there to say. Borat - A true phenomenon. Once - A refreshing indie in a genre that's almost always dominated by high production costs and glamour. Paprika - Not Satoshi Kon's best film, but it reached the most people, and it was his final film. I would count Once as a 2007 film. In only played in two film festivals in 2006. Well, not much of a discussion like Ian hoped for. The consensus seems to be Borat Children of Men Pan's Labyrinth United 93 And since Deexan and I chose An Inconvenient Truth, the only other movie with more than one vote, then that should take the 5th spot. Next year, Ian. There's no need to rush it that much. I don't hold V in the same high esteem that many others seem to, it's one film I keep meaning to watch again. It's influence is undeniable. The whole Anonymous social movement was inspired by the movie and the Guy Fawkes mask has become iconic. If Ian doesn't want documentaries, then V for Vendetta should take the 5th spot. V for Vendetta is something I probably would have been more inclined to support in a weaker year. The mask has certainly been co-opted, but that goes back to the comic book and I don't know how many peopkle actually care about the movie beyond the mask. I throw my support for fifth behind Letter from Iwo Jima. One of the rare glimpses for the opposite side of a war, and a beautifully crafted one at that. If Seven Up can't get in, why can An Inconvenient Truth? I like Letters From Iwo Jima a whole lot, but we've seen the Japanese side of the war before in movies like The Burmese Harp and Fires on the Plain, and it doesn't really seem like it really influenced too many other filmmakers to do the same and it didn't really end up reaching a spectacularly large audience.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 29, 2014 13:50:54 GMT -5
The fact that more filmmakers haven't focused on "the other" when it comes to war films is exactly why Letters from Iwo Jima is so important. It's one of the few American films to portray "the enemy" of a major war, and it does so without resorting to plugging in a white protagonist for North American audiences to get behind.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 29, 2014 14:36:42 GMT -5
V for Vendetta is something I probably would have been more inclined to support in a weaker year. The mask has certainly been co-opted, but that goes back to the comic book. Yeah, but the comic book isn't what ignited OUR generation to use it as a symbol. It was the movie. I think in 100 years people will look back on V for Vendetta as an early 21st century movie that influenced politics and society. The same way that historians now look back at Birth of a Nation as the movie that re-energized the KKK. The fact that more filmmakers haven't focused on "the other" when it comes to war films is exactly why Letters from Iwo Jima is so important. It's one of the few American films to portray "the enemy" of a major war, and it does so without resorting to plugging in a white protagonist for North American audiences to get behind. Dude. Let's be real. Letter from Iwo Jima came and went. It made no impact whatsoever. OUR generation has the September 11 attacks and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have our own problems. To think a movie about World War II, regardless from who's point of view, will matter is a very outdated way of thinking. If you want to make an impact by presenting the enemy's point of view and have REAL BALLS in doing so, then do it about the problems we're facing now.
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