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Post by frankyt on Mar 29, 2024 10:08:51 GMT -5
Need some new books... I don't even have much on my holds list. This empire of the sun book/series keeps getting pub but it didn't grab me last time. Guess I gotta do it now.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 15, 2024 17:31:17 GMT -5
Cinema Speculation by Quentin Tarantino
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Post by Neverending on Apr 15, 2024 18:00:16 GMT -5
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 15, 2024 18:51:23 GMT -5
Thank you for this! Have you read the book? I'm over halfway through it and it's been a blast to read. I feel like you'd especially like what he says about De Palma.
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Post by Nilade on Apr 21, 2024 0:10:13 GMT -5
The Whistler - John Grisham
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 21, 2024 11:39:25 GMT -5
Thank you for this! Have you read the book? I'm over halfway through it and it's been a blast to read. I feel like you'd especially like what he says about De Palma. I started watching some of the movies he mentions. He brought up Joe on like page 3. That fucking movie, man…
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Post by Neverending on Apr 21, 2024 18:17:51 GMT -5
Thank you for this! Have you read the book? I'm over halfway through it and it's been a blast to read. I feel like you'd especially like what he says about De Palma. I started watching some of the movies he mentions. He brought up Joe on like page 3. That fucking movie, man… — — — — JOE (1970) From John G. Avildsen (director of Rocky and The Karate Kid) and Norman Wexler (writer of Saturday Night Fever and Serpico), comes the story of a father whose daughter (played by Susan Sarandon in her film debut) overdoses on drugs, and then in fit of rage, he kills her boyfriend. The father then stumbles into a bar and confesses his crime to a radical ring-wing factory worker named Joe (played by Peter Boyle in his breakout role). Joe celebrates the death of the boyfriend, since he feels that hippies are the root of evil in America, and considers the father to be a kindred spirit. Together, they're gonna clean up the town. When Peter Boyle attended a screening of Joe, he was disgusted to learn that the audience was rooting for the titular character. I can't blame them because the movie does a terrible job of portraying Joe as the villain in the story. Critics and historians say Joe was a monumental moment for film and was among the group of movies that ushered in what's considered the greatest decade in American cinema: the 1970's. I don't disagree with that. Joe certainly paved the way for Dirty Harry, Death Wish and other conservative-leaning films. What I do disagree with is pairing Joe with left-wing movies such as Easy Rider or Midnight Cowboy. The intent of Avildsen and Wexler might have been to portray the radical right-wing in a negative light but they failed 100%. The fact that audiences were cheering for Joe proves my point. The reason Avildsen and Wexler failed is because the hippies are portrayed as stereotypes. They're not human beings with intellect and emotions. They're just lame ducks for the main characters. Let's grab our shotguns and shoot up some hippies. It's right-wing fantasy. Some people have argued that Joe is a metaphor for the shift in political alliance. Once upon a time, the blue collar union workers were considered the left-wing. Then with the political turmoil of the 1960's in which the youth counterculture took over the mantle, the working class joined the business class as the right-wing. That might be true (or not) and it might have been a messaged layered onto the film, but it ultimately doesn't matter because the story is lopsided. If you don't present both sides equally then who are you really speaking to? I agree with your points. I think Joe had potential to be a lot more effective if it contained a more nuanced look at the hippie culture the two protagonists despise but ultimately indulge in themselves. But I also felt it was striking in its ideas that largely still resonate with the right wing of America today. The odd sort of class disparities that exist within the party from the racist, blue collar to the sanctimonious white collar people that comprise the party and are very different people that are bonded by their general dislike of anything that goes against the romanticized view of a white America era that's bygone. Joe's ending is an obvious one, and it spends too much time with Susan Sarandon and her junkie boyfriend in the beginning when it could've used its running time to more effectively showcase Joe and the father's relationship. But I'm reading Quentin Tarantino's book about 1970s cinema and I agree with him that despite its shortcomings it's a polarizing movie that strangely feels like it could be made today.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 22, 2024 17:21:39 GMT -5
and it spends too much time with Susan Sarandon and her junkie boyfriend in the beginning Or not enough time if you catch my drift.
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Post by docstop on Apr 28, 2024 19:28:50 GMT -5
Nothing to Lose - Lee Childs
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