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Post by Wyldstaar on Nov 25, 2014 8:25:25 GMT -5
Yellowjacket was another one of Pym's superhero personas. Why make him a villain? The cast also mentions Hope Van Dyne(played by Evangeline Lily), I wonder if she's Janet's (the Wasp) daughter. While Pym is the first Yellowjacket, there was also a villainess who adopted the name for many years. Pym has had a slew of personas over the decades, many of which were later taken up by others.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 25, 2014 9:29:02 GMT -5
Plus... it doesn't really matter. Marvel is allowed to make changes in their adaptations.
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blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/evangeline-lilly-says-edgar-wrights-ant-man-would-not-have-fit-into-marvel-verse-20141203Evangeline Lilly Says Edgar Wright's 'Ant-Man' Would Not Have Fit Into Marvel-VerseWhile Marvel's "Ant-Man" will probably be more heavily scrutinized than most of their efforts given the drama behind Edgar Wright's sudden departure, it's clear that the filmmaker's vision and the studio's growing universe were just not meshing. And indeed, Evangeline Lilly reveals that disconnect was at the root of the the Marvel/Wright rift, one that almost saw the actress herself split from the project, after falling in love with what Wright had put together. “I thought Edgar’s idea to blend the [Hank and Scott] stories was brilliant,” Lilly told Buzzfeed about Wright's approach. “You’re going to have fans up there who insist that you tell the story of Hank Pym, and fans up there who will be more on the Scott Lang side of it. … I think we are going to come close to pleasing them all.” But when Wright exited the movie, things were then thrown up in the air. “shocked,” Lilly explains. “And mortified, at first. Actually, I wouldn’t say mortified. You know, a creative project is a moving target. You never end up where you start. But we all, I think, signed on very enthusiastically with Edgar. We were excited to work with Edgar. We were fans of Edgar. So when the split happened, I was in the fortunate position where I had not signed my contract yet. So I had the choice to walk away, and I almost did. Because I thought, 'Well, if it’s because Marvel are big bullies, and they just want a puppet and not someone with a vision, I’m not interested in being in this movie.' Which is what I was afraid of.” And for a hot moment Lilly, who isn't particularly fond of acting anyway, hesitated about staying on the movie. But then she read the new script and realized Marvel were protecting their overall vision and ensuring "Ant-Man" stayed true to what they had spent years building up. “I saw with my own eyes that Marvel had just pulled the script into their world,” Lilly revealed. “I mean, they’ve established a universe, and everyone has come to expect a certain aesthetic [and] a certain feel for Marvel films. And what Edgar was creating was much more in the Edgar Wright camp of films. They were very different. And I feel like, if [Marvel] had created Edgar’s incredible vision — which would have been, like, classic comic book — it would have been such a riot to film [and] it would have been so much fun to watch. [But] it wouldn’t have fit in the Marvel Universe. It would have stuck out like a sore thumb, no matter how good it was. It just would have taken you away from this cohesive universe they’re trying to create. And therefore it ruins the suspended disbelief that they’ve built.” So, score one for template filmmaking we suppose... And while we understand where Lilly is coming from, James Gunn's "Guardians Of The Galaxy" proved you could push boundaries a bit and still please Marvel fans in a massive way, so we're still not quite sure just how wildly divergent Wright's movie would've been to the point that it couldn't be made. Thoughts? Do you think Marvel made the right call, or In Wright We Trust? Let us know below.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 3, 2014 15:24:08 GMT -5
Oh it was clear this was the reason for Wright's exit, but we can't really answer that question until we see the movie. It's the good of the broader picture over the good of one piece. I can't blame Marvel for the move but I can't say whether or not it will better serve to the final product (meaning this one film) yet.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 26, 2014 20:29:23 GMT -5
Word on the street is that a trailer may arrive in January.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 2, 2015 17:37:37 GMT -5
I know they're trying to be clever, but this is the most annoying "trailer for a trailer" I've ever seen:
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 2, 2015 19:33:43 GMT -5
Annoying indeed.
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Post by Alien on Jan 3, 2015 3:53:17 GMT -5
I know they're trying to be clever, but this is the most annoying "trailer for a trailer" I've ever seen: I want that as the official teaser! I'd love to see that in the cinema.
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Post by Batman on Jan 3, 2015 5:04:59 GMT -5
I know they're trying to be clever, but this is the most annoying "trailer for a trailer" I've ever seen: I want that as the official teaser! I'd love to see that in the cinema. I would agree if Edgar Wright was directing, but we need reassurance that Peyton Reed didn't fuck this up.
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Post by Ramplate on Jan 3, 2015 8:45:31 GMT -5
I liked it lol - I watched it with my magnifying glass, it's one of those quick shot teasers that doesn't give away much - not that I could see more than pixels mind you.
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Post by John on Jan 3, 2015 10:29:58 GMT -5
I don't watch these 10 second previews half the time anyway. Whatever.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jan 3, 2015 10:37:58 GMT -5
Like Knerys said, its hard to say when we havent seen the film, but personally I think Wright's take on Ant-Man would have been very interesting and worth being different from the other Marvel films. In fact it would be worth completely taking the character out fo the overall universe, if it means getting a really great superhero movie out of the deal.
Oh well. Then again, who knows if Wright would have pulled it off. I think if it wer is some unique style or something similar the Shaun, I would be interested. If it was more along the lines of Scott Pilgrim (which I suppose it would be) then I personally wouldn't be as interested.
It is what it is I suppose.
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Post by John on Jan 3, 2015 12:48:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't want Ant-Man to be excluded from the MCU, that's one of the biggest appeals this franchise has going for it.
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Post by Ramplate on Jan 3, 2015 14:09:58 GMT -5
Here's our villain, Yellow Jacket. looks more like blackjacket
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 14:21:24 GMT -5
That was pointless.
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Post by Deexan on Jan 4, 2015 15:47:58 GMT -5
I think if it wer is some unique style or something similar the Shaun, I would be interested.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jan 4, 2015 16:56:26 GMT -5
Shut up Deexan.
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Post by Deexan on Jan 4, 2015 17:22:23 GMT -5
Goddamn French-Canadians!
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French-Canadien, you mean. It's that pesky E.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 5, 2015 11:26:05 GMT -5
I don't know anything about Ant-Man but are his nemeses just characters named after everyday garden pests?
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Post by Knerys on Jan 5, 2015 11:42:20 GMT -5
I know they're trying to be clever, but this is the most annoying "trailer for a trailer" I've ever seen: Fail.
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Post by Deexan on Jan 5, 2015 13:18:24 GMT -5
I don't know anything about Ant-Man but are his nemeses just characters named after everyday garden pests? Crazy talk. They're named after items of clothing.
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