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Post by Dracula on Feb 3, 2015 23:24:25 GMT -5
I'm sure the constant camera movements were very difficult to pull off, but the basic aesthetic of the movie is nothing too special. It's not just how difficult the shots were to pull off, but how the illusion of the long-take placed viewers in Riggan's head. We could experience the never ending series of problems he encountered the same way he did. It also gives a great sense of location, lends to the feeling of live performance, and the film's up close and uncomfortable look fits with the behind the scenes view of a play's production. Agreed on all points... but the other five still looked better.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 3, 2015 23:31:48 GMT -5
I haven't seen Winter Sleep or Mr. Turner so no argument for those films (the latter especially looks great from the trailers), and I can also see why you'd opt for The Immigrant and Ida instead (which both look beautiful), but The Raid 2? Maybe it's just my own distaste for really obvious digital photography, but I really wasn't crazy about how that film looked.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 3, 2015 23:43:39 GMT -5
I haven't seen Winter Sleep or Mr. Turner so no argument for those films (the latter especially looks great from the trailers), and I can also see why you'd opt for The Immigrant and Ida instead (which both look beautiful), but The Raid 2? Maybe it's just my own distaste for really obvious digital photography, but I really wasn't crazy about how that film looked. That nomination was largely rooted in that film's expert use of handheld photography in an action context while still looking damn good. Take a look at some of the angles in this scene: badass.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 3, 2015 23:49:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I suppose that's fair.
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Post by Jibbs on Feb 4, 2015 0:02:15 GMT -5
There's a porn factory fight scene?
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Post by Dracula on Feb 4, 2015 0:06:20 GMT -5
There's a porn factory fight scene? Long story short, the main character is undercover in a crime syndicate and they go to a porn studio to collect their cut and the people there start a fight.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 4, 2015 8:08:20 GMT -5
Best Score
I’ve said it many times before, and I’ll say it again this year because it’s a necessary disclaimer: I’m not a film score aficionado. I don’t buy score soundtracks and more often than not I really don’t pay a whole lot of attention to the background music in films unless it really stands out. As such my nominations in categories like this often trend towards scores that are showy and unique and that may or may not be the most fair approach, so maybe take this with a grain of salt. Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance): Sometimes a great score has less to do with brilliant composition than simply coming up with the right idea for the right movie. That’s sort of the case with the music to Birdman, which I’d say is interesting but largely unremarkable outside of the context of the film. Composed by Jazz musician Antonio Sánchez and performed almost entirely on a drum set, the score is minimalist but perfect for the film. Acting as a sort of metronome for the theatrical banter of the film and really holds the whole thing together. The Grand Budapest Hotel: Alexandre Desplat has been astonishingly busy this year, having composed the score for no fewer than six different major motion pictures. Out of all that work, his score for The Grand Budapest Hotel is easily his most distinct and most fun. Desplat’s score incorporates a lot of folk music melodies in order to give the film its exotic European flavor and also does a great job of keeping up with the film’s sometimes frantic pace. On top of that, the score is able to play into the film’s whimsy and really give it this sense of mystery and nostalgia. Inherent Vice: Paul Thomas Anderson probably could have gotten away with sending his composer on vacation and just filled Inherent Vice with classic rock, but instead he had Johnny Greenwood compose yet another stellar score. Given the film’s relatively comical nature one might have expected something a little breezy from Greenwood but instead he plays into the film’s noir elements and crafts a score that’s somewhat reminiscent of Bernard Hermann. It’s an oddly somber score, perhaps emphasizing the doomed (but not doomed) nature of the film’s central relationship, or perhaps mourning the hope of the 60s as America transitions into the cynical 70s. Interstellar: In his previous collaborations with Christopher Nolan, Hans Zimmer found a sort of propulsive theme and used it to power through his score. Rather than do that again, Zimmer has instead made a score for Interstellar that is characterized by how all over the place it is. The score is largely piano driven and doesn’t stray too far from traditional orchestrations. That doesn’t mean the score isn’t able to give the film a certain grandeur, in fact most of the music in it really builds on itself and the songs really become quite powerful as they go. Under the Skin: The score for Jonathan Glazer’s Under the Skin might not be the most accomplished score of the year, but it’s certainly the most atmospheric. Composed by experimental musician Mica Levi, the score will almost certainly be remembered for what I’m going to call the “seduction theme,” a slinky little piece consisting of vaguely electronic sounding noises against what sort of sounds like Japanese inspired production. It’s music that is both sexual and alien, which would obviously be appropriate for this film. And the Golden Stake Goes To…
The Grand Budapest HotelIf you look back over the history of the Golden Stakes you find that this category generally rewards outsiders rather than the film music establishment, but I gave out the award to Hans Zimmer last year and this year it’s going to Alexandre Desplat, so maybe that’s changing in a big way. Most of the nominated scores here could be called “moody” and that’s true of the score for The Grand Budapest Hotel as well, but it also happens to be a lot more fun to listen to. It’s probably the most melodic of these scores and it also does the best job of establishing a memorable theme.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 4, 2015 9:59:50 GMT -5
Good choices all around. I was also very fond of the scores for Noah and Gone Girl. Speaking of the latter, I know for many the shock of Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross' style has diminished, but I just love listening to their work.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 4, 2015 13:33:27 GMT -5
Speaking of the latter, I know for many the shock of Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross' style has diminished, but I just love listening to their work. It was definately number six for me. I almost broke down and added it at the last minute but couldn't decide what to drop in its place.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 4, 2015 13:38:56 GMT -5
Of your nominees, Grand Budapest might have actually been my least favourite score, but that might just be because of how long it's been since I've seen it. I'm also not entirely sold on Greenwood's work on Inherent Vice. I like it, but I don't think it compares to his work on There Will Be Blood or The Master.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 4, 2015 14:11:31 GMT -5
Would've gone with Interstellar myself. And no, that's not just my love of Hans Zimmer talking; that score really pulled me into the emotional aspects of the film more, and enhanced the effect of those scenes, not to mention it added to the film's sense of wonder and the whole space opera feel. Gone Girl and Birdman are up there for me too, though.
And by the way...the lack of the Docking Scene from Interstellar for Best Set Piece is very disappointing.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 4, 2015 16:18:41 GMT -5
Would've gone with Interstellar myself. And no, that's not just my love of Hans Zimmer talking; that score really pulled me into the emotional aspects of the film more, and enhanced the effect of those scenes, not to mention it added to the film's sense of wonder and the whole space opera feel. Gone Girl and Birdman are up there for me too, though.
And by the way...the lack of the Docking Scene from Interstellar for Best Set Piece is very disappointing. The dirty little secret about that category is that I all too often need to base my judgements on listening to the scores after the fact in order to remember them (Amazon 30 second samples are a godsend in that regard) and that tends to benefit scores with strong motifs or reoccuring themes. Scores like Interstellar's (which is all over the place) sometimes get left behind. As for the docking scene... it might have impressed me more if the movie Gravity never existed.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2015 16:42:30 GMT -5
The docking scene might have impressed me more if the movie Gravity never existed. Ha!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 16:44:02 GMT -5
Gravity was an overrated, sentimental claptrap with one-dimensional characters. There...I said it.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2015 17:05:23 GMT -5
There was enough shit talking about Gravity at last year's Golden Stake Awards. Let's move on before this turns into a bar fight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 17:07:50 GMT -5
I'm going to throw a bottle at Ian.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 4, 2015 17:14:09 GMT -5
I've dive in the way. Gravity rules.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 4, 2015 17:22:24 GMT -5
IanTheCool would be the first to be knocked out in a bar fight.
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Post by Jibbs on Feb 4, 2015 23:19:03 GMT -5
Gravity blows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 5:51:41 GMT -5
Road House on the other hand...
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Post by Dracula on Feb 5, 2015 8:44:00 GMT -5
Best Soundtrack
The best soundtrack category differs from the best score category in that it covers an assemblage of preexisting music rather than original musical accompaniment. While the presence of original songs won’t necessarily disqualify a movie, that isn’t what’s being judged here. Additionally, it should be noted that the award is judging the way music is used in the actual movie and not how it plays on a soundtrack album when removed from its original context. Also, what’s important isn’t so much the quality of the music so much as the way it plays with the images. Boyhood: They say that popular music is the soundtrack of our lives. Richard Linklater certainly believes this and created the soundtrack of his own adolescence when he made the movie Dazed and Confused and with Boyhood he’s tried to put together the soundtrack of a new generation. The music choices he makes are poignant but not distracting and they also serve as a good marker of time passing in the movie. It starts with late 90s songs by the likes of Sheryl Crow and Blinck-182 and by the end it’s using relatively recent hits like Gotye’s “Somebody that I Used to Know.” Chef: I read an interview with Jon Favreau where he talks about how kitchens in the United States have gone from being rooted in French culture to being rooted in Latino culture and Favreau’s film Chef and its soundtrack reflect that. The film is primarily loaded with classic Latin music, specifically Latin jazz and boogaloo. It also switches things up a bit as the movie goes to different locations, giving us some brass band music in the New Orleans scenes and blues during the Austin scenes. Guardian of the Galaxy: The soundtrack album to Guardians of the Galaxy managed to top the Billboard chart and has since gone platinum. It’s the fifth best selling album of the year, which is a hell of an accomplishment in an era where you can simply download any one of its pre-existing songs at will. This speaks to how this collection of 60s and 70s hits has really struck a chord as a collection and while the juxtaposition of cheesy music with space opera was sort of gimmicky, there’s no denying that this music plays a big part in the movie’s comedy and attitude. The Guest: I don’t know that The Guest has the best soundtrack of the year, but it’s certainly the one that someone put the most work into. This soundtrack takes the Drive approach of finding obscure tracks that all share a common sound, in this case dark 80s electronica, in order to create a specific mood. There are no standout radio songs here, everything’s a deep cut from semi-unknown bands like Clan Of Xymox and S U R V I V E, but they all come together really well and act almost more like a score for the film than as a soundtrack. Top Five: Hip Hop generally hasn’t worked great as background music in movies over the years, mainly because it’s a genre that actually expects you to pay some attention to the lyrics, which can be a distraction away from whatever is in the foreground of a scene. Chris Rock seems to agree with that too because his comedy Top Five is largely scored by instrumental versions of various hip-hop classics, which is a good way to gain steam from that music’s energy while also blending better with the visuals. It was also a very good reminder of how awesome the Jay-Z/Kanye West song about the city of Paris was. And the Golden Stake Goes To…
BoyhoodI wouldn’t necessarily want to listen to it as an album, but within context no collection of music did more to act as a companion to a film this year. The music works both as a catalog of a recent time period and as a means of bringing things out of certain scenes and making you see recent popular music in a new light. It managed to turn “Yellow” by Coldplay into a from a bloated rock song into a childhood ode and even somehow managed to show how “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” could seem like a pretty cool song if listened to at just the right age.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 5, 2015 20:52:12 GMT -5
Best Villain It doesn’t take a whole lot of explaining to introduce what this category is, but it probably is worth reiterating what the eligibility rules are. First and foremost, to be nominated here a character has to actively be an antagonist of a movie. Evil people who are nonetheless a film’s main character (E.G. Lou Bloom from Nightcrawler) are not eligible. Additionally, I’m limiting this to characters that are more or less human. I’m willing to stretch that to include vampires or talking chimpanzees, but you won’t see me nominating ghosts or monsters or natural disasters. Warning, the nominees here include spoilers for Gone Girl and The One I Love. Koba- Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: Caesar and Koba are basically the Professor Xavier and Magneto of the new Planet of the Apes franchise. One is ultimately hopeful that his people can re-unite with humanity and that the two sides can co-exist peacefully while the other just wants to win a race war. Koba was apparently in Rise of the Planet of the Apes but I didn’t really remember him in that and he has a much bigger role here as a villain who tries to usurp Caesar and lead the apes to war. Amy Elliott-Dunne- Gone Girl: The first fifty or so minutes of Gone Girl play as a mystery in which the audiences is asked to contemplate who kinapped/killed Amy Elliott Dunne… then we find out that she kidnapped herself… and she’s a fucking psycho. Amy is a master manipulator who coldly executes delusional plans to get her way and get revenge on the people she believes have wronged her. A brutal sociopath in sheep’s clothing, she almost always gets her way with utter ruthlessness. Kim Jong-un- The Interview: First of all, no, I am not nominating Kim Jong-un here because of his real life counterpart’s activities as of late. Rather, I’m nominating it because I was really impressed with what actor Randall Park was able to do in giving us a rather unexpected version of the dictator, making him a sort of frustrated nerd with daddy issues. There’s a sort of pathetic vulnerability to this guy which is in its own way even less flattering to the dictator than the film’s criticism of his brutal regime. Mayor Vadim- Leviathan: Leviathan is largely about three or four people who find their lives devolving into a Job-like spiral of misery after they make an enemy of a powerful mayor with connections in Moscow. It would have been easy to make this guy some sort of ominous mastermind, but instead Andrey Zvyagintsev makes him an all too human kind of evil. He’s a drunkard who acts out of desperate self-preservation and is actively enabled by his ties to the church. The Other Ethan- The One I Love: There are only really two actors in all of The One I Love Elisabeth Moss and Mark Duplass, but both are playing tricky double roles. Duplass is playing two versions of the same person: one is all too human while the other is almost smugly laid back and charming. For much of the movie this other version of the character seems like a villain simply because he seems like an unfair competitor for the affections of Moss’s character, but as the movie goes on it becomes clear that his intentions run more towards the sinister than they initially appear. And the Golden Stake goes to…Gone GirlThe “psycho bitch” is something of a cliché in the thriller genre, but Gone Girl elevates the trope into something a lot more special. In part that’s because the movie actually cares how she became the way she became (or at least what fueled the flames) by introducing details like her past as the model for “Amazing Amy” or letting her explain how much she hated having to be a “cool girl.” She’s a criminal mastermind but she doesn’t use her powers to take over the world, she uses them to mold her life according to her own unattainable standards.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 5, 2015 22:16:21 GMT -5
Gone Girl was spoiled a long time ago. As soon as "I've Been Gone Girl'd" became a meme, I weeped for anyone who hadn't seen the movie. And it's not the first time a David Fincher movie was ruined for future audiences. It's almost impossible for a newcomer to watch Se7en without knowing the ending.
You know...
This should be a list.
Movies spoiled by people.
Psycho. The Crying Game. The Usual Suspects. Se7en. The Sixth Sense. Gone Girl.
Am I missing anything?
I don't think Primal Fear counts since that movie is obscure now. Although the twist is SO OBVIOUS it's disgusting.
The Life of David Gale? That movie is obscure now too, but the twist is also super obvious.
The Machinist?
New list. Which movies HAVEN'T been spoiled?
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