Politics Thread

The dude is considered too unsavory to host a game show and he thinks he can get elected president?

Yup.  The 6k deductable is pretty shitty, BUT it's a bargain compared to what you would pay out of pocket for a trip to the ER.  My brother blew up his hand when he was in high school and without insurance I believe it would have cost somewhere around $30,000 to put the plate/screws and other stuff it took to put his hand back together. 

Basically, the moral of the story is that if you're going to play with dry ice bombs you need to throw them sooner rather than later.

Not every Nazi was a virulant anti-semite, many of them were just fighting against a world order they believed were treating them unfairly and a good many of them were probably otherwise decent young people who just found themselves fighting for their countries army, it doesn't change the fact that the swastika is a repulsive symbol representing a repulsive regime and so is the confederate flag.

Explain the distinction you're seeing... 

I recommend you look up what was called "the cornerstone speech," which was delivered by Confederacy vice president Alexander Stephens after secession but before the outbreak of war in which he outlined the goals of the Confederacy:



That right there is what the Confederacy was based around, a bunch of rich people wanted to enslave people and they came up with some bullshit rhetoric about states rights in order to convince their countrymen to go to war so they can keep them, everything else is Dunning School nonsense made up after the fact so that Confederate sympathizers could save face once it was apparent that they were on the wrong side of history.  I'm sure there were a handful of innocent fools who went off to war genuinely believing that "states rights" were more important than the emancipation of nearly four million people forced to live and work on plantations that were no more pleasant than Nazi concentration camps (ever seen 12 Years a Slave?) and were routinely beaten, whipped, and killed for wanting basic human freedoms.  And I'm also sure that there were a decent number of Confederates who didn't particularly care about the causes of the war and were just fighting for the side they were born into.  

But the same was likely true of Nazi Germany, in fact I'm willing to bet that most of the German soldiers in that war were largely unconcerned with Hitler's vehement antisemitism, didn't know the full extent of the Holocaust and just viewed the war as a noble crusade to take back what they think belonged to Germany and to fight back against the nations that were plaguing them with onerous debts. It doesn't matter, this isn't about the foot soldiers, it's about the regimes they fought for which are symbolized by the flags they adopted.  The exact nature of Confederate evil is obviously not identical to Nazi evil (or Stalinist evil, or Khmer Rouge evil, etc.) but it is still a symbol not just of one specific treasonous army but also of a warped society that was rooted in human slavery, rape, and murder which that army was built to defend.  That they committed these atrocities over the course of a few hundred years rather than ten years is, if anything, more damning of them.  

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. There's a world of difference between fighting to avoid paying a tax on tea and fighting to preserve your right to own people.

Which says a whole lot about how fucked up the people you're defending are.

And also avoiding the fact that your comparisons were wrong and mine is much more accurate.

My comparisons were spot on, and nothing in the rather lengthy explanation of them avoids that fact, you're the one deluding yourself into thinking otherwise.  

May I ask a question do you guys suppose this Flag buiness and no little about it for only watch local news for both Cnn and Fox News are crap. What if the person was not thinking about Race, A Confederate Flag or a Nazi Symbol for hate. Could the guy actually think hey this my home state flag looks cool to wave going into battle im gonna wave it. Can we just assume he is just an idiot and hate or history has nothing too do with the motive. If i am wrong here then well its not the first time and wont be the last.

Like i said i have been wrong before. Didnt know the details just trying to be possitive and now i know he truly is a full blown nut idiot.

Senator Patrick Leahy is visiting my building today for a tour.

This apartment house is run with recycling, and solar power, reusable water system - pretty green system here