Politics Thread

Yeah. It's ultimately a non-issue. Confederate flags are a good way to know who's racist or not. It served a purpose. 

I guess just like hoodies are a good way to know if someone is a criminal or not.

This ^^, it's just the flavor of the week for now.

Here is the thing I am know one way or the other here currently Bush and Obama have turned all things too Crap. While i am registured Rep.I can a do vote either way. I just think the two party president idea needs too change. We need a 3rd option and not a rep or dem who is just blowing empty wind promises up a arses too get elected. Im also finding no great confidence in Atilla Hilary and Sorry i mistook the hall Closet as Exit Door Jeb Bush. Either person would be left or right and not in the middle. I nominate OPtimus Prime as President. Might as well have an alien robot run things.

The confederate flag is tantamount to a Nazi flag as far as I'm concerned and I immediately think less of anyone who flies it proudly.  That having been said, people do have a right to fly it, and while it's obscene that it's flying on state houses I don't think there should be some kind of federal law against it or anything.  And while I do think Amazon has the right to sell or not sell whatever they want I don't necessarily think they need to be purging their system of every potentially offensive product they have.

You could always vote green party.

The American Civil War was about many things. Many different things led up to the civil war.

1) States Rights - that's often used by the ones who succeeded and their descendants because it lifts the moral burden off of them and justifies their action against the Union States. They also wanted to be allowed to ignore Washington when they thought the laws they handed down for everyone to live under were what they did not agree with.

2) The north was industrialized, the south was agricultural. - Southerners felt their way of life was being threatened by actions from the north. Their economy was slavery based.

3) Abolitionists vs Slavers - there was a huge divide between these two groups long before the civil war, and several clashes over the question.

4) Abraham Lincoln was elected president - a northerner who did not really believe in the institution of slavery lit the match under several of those in the south and there were attempts and plans made to kill him before his train made it to Washington. Allan Pinkerton (and his spies) is the reason why Lincoln made it to Washington safely.
True - that Lincoln said if he could preserve the union he would do so with or without setting slaves free. But, The struggle to designate free and slave states was heavily and heatedly debated in congress over and over again - and as he also said A house divided cannot stand.

So yeah, while there were a bunch of different reasons why some states succeeded - slavery definitely had a lot to do with it.
With the exception of Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri who were caught pretty much in the middle, all the states designated as slave states joined the confederacy and rebelled.


I don't think that the Confederate battle flag should be flown on state owned property - unless it is property designated to teach about history (Museum areas, battlefields) or to honor war dead (Memorials, cemeteries) - other than that, feel free to fly it on your own property.

Some southerners may feel it's part of their heritage, but it's definitely not everyone's heritage.

Charles Bovea Vermont 7th Union Army ---- my 2nd Great Grandfather is my heritage in that era

I found out the Vermont 7th went down to Florida to defend a fort there, went across to Alabama for some more skirmishes, then across over to Texas to keep Mexico from getting any smart ideas about invading.

Why would you be proud that your ancestors wanted to leave the United States cause their slaves (a/k/a free labor) were gonna be taken away?



Even if we ignore the racism, the Confederate flag is a symbol of treason. The fact that Southern states love flaunting it does more harm than good. There's a reason why 150 years later there's still tension between the South and the rest of the country.

My thoughts exactly.

That is what's called a catastrophic plan, it's there so that if you get sick or seriously injured you don't end up bankrupting yourself (and costing society in the long run) in the event of an extended hospital stay.  That is a bit on the expensive side though, the plan I was using until I got my most recent job cost about half that much.  IMO it is worth getting, at least if you think you're going to be unemployed for a while and you are entitled to certain preventative care treatments like one annual physical.  Additionally you may want to look into short term insurance, which is offered by a number of private insurance companies.