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Post by Doomsday on Dec 24, 2014 13:37:55 GMT -5
That's because his movies blow.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 24, 2014 13:41:08 GMT -5
That's because his movies blow. Quentin Tarantino has a lot of ego too, but he's not rolling in Peter Jackson money either. These Hobbit movies are shit, but they're making good money internationally. Plus, there's blu-ray sales and TV rights. Everyone benefitted from this being three movies instead of one. |
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Post by Knerys on Dec 24, 2014 14:24:08 GMT -5
Money and ego aren't mutually exclusive concepts here.
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Post by VaderStark14 on Dec 24, 2014 15:14:11 GMT -5
I liked the movies fine character wise but do hate how PJ makes Gandy look weak magic wise in all adaptations. PJ is good at casting but i think he tried to hard to make it better then lotr And he listened to James Cameron too much and went cgi character orcs.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 24, 2014 15:48:17 GMT -5
I don't know. Kevin Smith has lots of ego, but you don't see him rolling in Peter Jackson money. Kevin Smith also hasn't been relevant for 10 years and hasn't made anything really worth seeing since 1999. He also made "Cop Out" which makes "The Lovely Bones" look like a masterpiece. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 24, 2014 17:52:27 GMT -5
The problem is a general lack of passion. It all feels so tired and uninspired.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 24, 2014 18:26:42 GMT -5
And it's hurt by the fact that it takes place before Lord of the Rings, a more epic story in every way. Which is why one movie to return to the franchise would have been just fine.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 24, 2014 19:04:16 GMT -5
Hopefully, J.J. Abrams directs the next one so we can forget about this awful trilogy.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 24, 2014 19:05:13 GMT -5
They don't have the rights to make any other Tolkien book into a movie.
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Post by VaderStark14 on Dec 25, 2014 5:17:21 GMT -5
I always felt the hobbit should have been made seperately from Jackson and given more a fantasy look too it and have a different vesion. I always felt Gore Versbinski or David Yates could have given a more Hobbit Kids and adult like vision. I am greatful for the films for Freemans performance alone has been worth each film.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 25, 2014 11:23:19 GMT -5
I always felt the hobbit should have been made seperately from Jackson and given more a fantasy look too it and have a different vesion. I always felt Gore Versbinski or David Yates could have given a more Hobbit Kids and adult like vision. I am greatful for the films for Freemans performance alone has been worth each film. What are you going on about Vader, nobody is telling you not to like the movie. Just because someone has a different opinion, doesn't mean they are attacking you |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 26, 2014 10:33:59 GMT -5
Gore Verbinski? Because he made one good "Pirates" movie? He's done nothing but overly bloated blockbusters since ("The Lone Ranger" anyone?) and would do even worse with these movies.
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Post by VaderStark14 on Dec 26, 2014 15:30:07 GMT -5
I do have one movie complaint i saw the movie in 3d and felt it looked very strange. A question i have does the movie look better in 2d without glasses. Cause at times it looked like a play and nothing like any of the 5 other movies.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 26, 2014 16:13:02 GMT -5
Looked the same to me, I saw it in the 48 fps for the first two and found it distracting because the images are way too crisp and don't blend as well with the CGI. I went 24 fps in 3D this time and it looked great.
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Post by Ewok Droppings on Dec 26, 2014 22:34:18 GMT -5
I think it's funny just how much energy Neverending puts into coming here and bashing a movie she's never seen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 12:16:06 GMT -5
How visually crisp this trilogy looks really bothers me. It's almost too glossy.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 29, 2014 8:41:30 GMT -5
LOTR, the first one, is on TBS right now. It's funny how it has a classical feel to it. If you remove the CGI, it's a movie that could have been made in the '70s and '80s. You can't say that about The Hobbit. Like Doomsday said earlier, these Hobbit movies look and feel like video games. It's the fundamental thing that prevents The Hobbit from living up to the LOTR. Even if you re-edit all three Hobbit movies into one, it wouldn't have the magic of LOTR. You can't undo the fakeness. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 8:58:02 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 29, 2014 10:19:45 GMT -5
Why is there so many extreme close-ups in the first LOTR? Not even Sergio Leone had this much in his movies. And why does it take 2 hours to form the fellowship? And why are the Hobbit's so gay? I hate to agree with Kevin Smith, but Star Wars is WAY better than this shit.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 29, 2014 10:58:40 GMT -5
Lotr and Star Wars are 2 great trilogies.
Ones scifi opera other is fantasy.
Both have core fans.
I particularly love both of em for different reasons, no reason why smith wants to compare them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 11:32:49 GMT -5
Or here's a better question: why can't Star Wars and the LOTR trilogy be more like this trippy, yet undeniably disturbing masterstroke?  |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 29, 2014 12:43:05 GMT -5
Why is there so many extreme close-ups in the first LOTR? Not even Sergio Leone had this much in his movies. And why does it take 2 hours to form the fellowship? And why are the Hobbit's so gay? I hate to agree with Kevin Smith, but Star Wars is WAY better than this shit. Kevin Smith also has no room to talk since he's had one of the more disappointing careers in recent memory considering he hasn't made anything worth seeing in almost 20 years. He's not nearly as good a writer as he was projected to be and resorts to the same tricks direction-wise that grows tiresome after you've seen more than 2 of his films. So yeah, Kevin Smith should just keep his opinions to himself because the guy is honestly not any good at all. If it wasn't for "Clerks" and "Dogma" I'd write him off completely. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 14:01:21 GMT -5
Chasing Amy was the only movie I liked by Kevin Smith. All of the other ones are completely forgettable and stupid.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 29, 2014 14:36:37 GMT -5
You can hate Kevin Smith all you want, but he's right.
Star Wars > LOTR
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 29, 2014 15:25:17 GMT -5
Yeah, probably. But still, I don't think he should be putting his opinion on much. If we spun it onto his films we could discuss what the bigger piece of shit is, "Jersey Girl" or "Cop Out". He's a has-been that really never was, the guy is only still relevant to comic book nerds and that's about it. Even "Clerks" is heavily borrowed from "Slacker".
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