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Post by Doomsday on Jun 5, 2016 16:34:10 GMT -5
As a standalone movie it's alright, it just does nothing to further the X-Men narrative. We learn a little bit about Logan but nothing that's going to have any repercussions in future installments, at least as far as we know. In the grand scheme of the cinematic X-Men universe it's just kinda...there. And what's the deal with his claws being hacked off? Is that another thing we're supposed to forget while watching Days of Future Past? I thought it was fine but couldn't help thinking 'why was this made?' after I finished it.
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Post by Dracula on Jun 5, 2016 16:44:35 GMT -5
As a standalone movie it's alright, it just does nothing to further the X-Men narrative. We learn a little bit about Logan but nothing that's going to have any repercussions in future installments, at least as far as we know. In the grand scheme of the cinematic X-Men universe it's just kinda...there. And what's the deal with his claws being hacked off? Is that another thing we're supposed to forget while watching Days of Future Past? I thought it was fine but couldn't help thinking 'why was this made?' after I finished it. I also thought it was kind of weak as an action movies, at least when compared to most other modern superhero movies, and also that the villains in the movie were kind of wack.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 5, 2016 17:42:43 GMT -5
I never saw Origins and don't intend to.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 5, 2016 21:31:09 GMT -5
Origins would have been great if they just made the opening credits into the movie.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 6, 2016 0:02:38 GMT -5
Origins would have been great if they just made the opening credits into the movie. It's the only part of the movie that's still in continuity. The rest, including THE Wolverine, have been wiped from existence by Days of Future Past.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 10, 2016 2:20:50 GMT -5
End of Days might be the biggest pile of shit that Arnold Schwarzenegger ever made. I was gonna "review" it for Halloween, but I have to cross it off my list. First off, I wouldn't even call this a horror movie. Secondly, why is Schwarzenegger trying to act? He gets paid to be a badass, not a suicidal alcoholic. That's what we have Mel Gibson for. Thirdly, how did Rod Steiger end up in this movie? Did he have gambling debt to pay? Fourthly, 1999 = 666? Get the fuck out of here. And, finally, I've never seen the devil struggle so much to get some pussy. This movie takes itself so damn seriously and the plot is just: the devil needs to knock up a girl before Y2K.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 10, 2016 8:08:29 GMT -5
End of Days might be the biggest pile of shit that Arnold Schwarzenegger ever made. I was gonna "review" it for Halloween, but I have to cross it off my list. First off, I wouldn't even call this a horror movie. Secondly, why is Schwarzenegger trying to act? He gets paid to be a badass, not a suicidal alcoholic. That's what we have Mel Gibson for. Thirdly, how did Rod Steiger end up in this movie? Did he have gambling debt to pay? Fourthly, 1999 = 666? Get the fuck out of here. And, finally, I've never seen the devil struggle so much to get some pussy. This movie takes itself so damn seriously and the plot is just: the devil needs to knock up a girl before Y2K.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 16, 2016 22:51:14 GMT -5
Man of the Year is a very misguided film. I understand the context. It was made after the shenanigans of the 2000 election and the reported issues with the 2004 one. But telling the story of a Jon Stewart type running for President brings up a lot of things that the movie chooses to ignore. If Barry Levison wanted to tackle voter fraud then he should have just stuck to that. We didn't need Robin Williams trying to be funny.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 17, 2016 5:00:15 GMT -5
Man of the Year is a very misguided film. I understand the context. It was made after the shenanigans of the 2000 election and the reported issues with the 2004 one. But telling the story of a Jon Stewart type running for President brings up a lot of things that the movie chooses to ignore. If Barry Levison wanted to tackle voter fraud then he should have just stuck to that. We didn't need Robin Williams trying to be funny. Haven't seen it or the Chris Rock movie with the smilarish plot. I'm sure the whole candidate who speaks his mind thing doesn't play as well this year.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 17, 2016 16:43:52 GMT -5
Man of the Year is a very misguided film. I understand the context. It was made after the shenanigans of the 2000 election and the reported issues with the 2004 one. But telling the story of a Jon Stewart type running for President brings up a lot of things that the movie chooses to ignore. If Barry Levison wanted to tackle voter fraud then he should have just stuck to that. We didn't need Robin Williams trying to be funny. Haven't seen it or the Chris Rock movie with the smilarish plot. I'm sure the whole candidate who speaks his mind thing doesn't play as well this year. Doomsday , Dracula hasn't seen Head of State. Rectify that at the Film Club.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 17, 2016 17:39:01 GMT -5
Down to that, Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever or The Whole Ten Yards. He's got some classics coming his way.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 17, 2016 18:26:59 GMT -5
Down to that, Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever or The Whole Ten Yards. He's got some classics coming his way. It's an election year. Make Head of State a priority.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 18, 2016 12:49:04 GMT -5
Man of the Year is a very misguided film. I understand the context. It was made after the shenanigans of the 2000 election and the reported issues with the 2004 one. But telling the story of a Jon Stewart type running for President brings up a lot of things that the movie chooses to ignore. If Barry Levison wanted to tackle voter fraud then he should have just stuck to that. We didn't need Robin Williams trying to be funny. I just remember Man of the Year being a very confused movie. It didn't seem to know whether it wanted to be a funny political satire or a serious conspiracy thriller.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 30, 2016 2:03:34 GMT -5
Sam Jackson's version of Shaft must have had a great deal of studio meddling. I still remember when the movie was in development. Quentin Tarantino was actually in discussion. Wesley Snipes, post Blade, was attached at some point. But it ended up being Sam Jackson with John Singleton behind the camera. I saw it in theaters. I liked it. I even bought the fucking soundtrack. But I hadn't watched it in 15 years. Most of it holds up. Sam Jackson is Sam Jackson. Christian Bale plays a great villain. Busta Rhymes isn't laughable like Ja Rule in Fast & Furious. The racial commentary is well-done and would resonate in today's climate. But for whatever reason, they added Jeffrey Wright as an additional villain, possibly to add more action scenes, and the whole fucking movie falls apart. If they ever make a new Shaft, I hope they watch this movie again and learn from its mistakes.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 5, 2016 3:10:35 GMT -5
The Italian Job is a very 60's movie and The Italian Job remake is a very 2000's movie. Scarface, The Thing and The Fly seem to be on a similar boat. Hollywood justify remakes by saying they've modernized the story. But there's a difference between modernization and simply being a product of its time. I think remakes that try to update the story tend to fail while remakes that simply use the same plot to tell a different story succeed.
Look at Total Recall, for example. The original and the remake are the same except one is 80's camp and the other is Nolan-ized. Now look at Cape Fear. Both have the same plot. Both are Hitchcock inspired. Both use the same Bernard Herrmann score. But one was made in the 60's and the other in the 90's.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 5, 2016 8:06:14 GMT -5
Scarface, The Fly, and The Thing are all amazing remakes. As far as being products of the 80s, Scarface is the only one that screams that decade, but the excess depicted still seems relevant. As for The Fly and The Thing, apart from a few outdated hair styles and tech, also don't feel too 80s to me.
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Post by Justin on Aug 5, 2016 8:12:35 GMT -5
I always thought the Scarface remake was pretty cheesy. Fun, but a little goofy.
But yeah, The Thing is one of my favorite movies, and The Fly is also really good (there's also the Invasion of the Body Snatchers remake). Honestly, The Thing has aged really well for me and I have a feeling that it will continue to look great while films that rely on CGI excessively will not.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 5, 2016 21:47:27 GMT -5
Scarface, The Fly, and The Thing are all amazing remakes. As far as being products of the 80s, Scarface is the only one that screams that decade, but the excess depicted still seems relevant. As for The Fly and The Thing, apart from a few outdated hair styles and tech, also don't feel too 80s to me. You misunderstood. Take the Fly. The original is about a scientist who switches places with a fly. You can't update that story and expect people to take it seriously. That's why Cronenberg took the plot and told a different story. That's my point. Remakes that simply use the plot tend to be successful while remakes that update the story tend to fail. Why? Because movies are products of their time. Right now, you couldn't remake Cronenberg's remake of The Fly without radically changing the story. You'd have to find themes that would connect with people today. The 50's Fly had that fear of science shit. The 80's Fly was in the middle of the AIDS epidemic.
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Post by Jibbs on Aug 5, 2016 22:09:30 GMT -5
Then Cracked posts a list of movies that "missed the point of the originals" and proceeds to mention the reboot/remakes that did something different, like Planet of the Apes. Can't please everyone...
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Post by Neverending on Aug 5, 2016 22:42:46 GMT -5
Which Planets of the Apes?
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Post by Jibbs on Aug 5, 2016 23:15:20 GMT -5
2011 vs 1968. "The original was about blah blah blah." Yeah, no shit.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 5, 2016 23:53:45 GMT -5
2011 vs 1968. "The original was about blah blah blah." Yeah, no shit. The original was about Black people. The remake was about animals. Tim Burton's re-imagining was about having sex with animals.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 10, 2016 13:49:36 GMT -5
I haven't even thought of the Blade movies since college.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 10, 2016 13:56:51 GMT -5
Blade is not a movie that needs to be analyzed this closely. It's a movie about a cool dude stabbing vampires while wearing sunglasses and a sick leather jacket, that delivers on everything that description implies and nothing more. Also, this approach of looking at this as some kind of entry in the history of comic book movies is misguided. This isn't really a Marvel movie and isn't a superhero movie any more than Road to Perdition or something.
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