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Post by Wyldstaar on May 17, 2020 12:34:42 GMT -5
While I enjoyed Idiocracy more than Phantomknight, it wasn't by much. I found it to be yet another movie that has a great premise, but the execution doesn't work. Considering the unusually short running time, I think it's same to assume that the studio butchered what Mike Judge had made. That said however, I don't think it's likely there was anything that would have saved Idiocracy left on the editing room floor. The film has it's merits, and at some point I'm sure I'll watch it again. My primary issue with it was that too many of the negative results of a nation of morons were either glossed over or played for laughs. A hospital full of doctors who need Velcro strapped shoes would result in untold deaths. The only evidence of this is that there are no elderly people to be seen throughout the film. If the tone had been that of a dark comedy along the lines of The Death of Stalin (2017) instead of it's combination of slapstick and toilet humor, the results might have been more to my tastes.
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Post by PhantomKnight on May 20, 2020 10:30:36 GMT -5
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
In the past, I've been a defender of this movie and while this most recent viewing definitely took some of the sheen away, I can still recognize some positives. The film's biggest strength is in its story, i.e. the idea of a mutant cure and the debates it sparks between the characters. There are still a number of good scenes and moments that come from this...but the issue here is mainly that the movie is so rushed, such scenes never really get the chance to breathe properly. The nuances and attention to character from the first two is definitely missing here a bit, because the movie is driven more by the plot, the desire to get from Point A to Point B while cramming in as many action beats as it can at the sacrifice of the tight storytelling style of Bryan Singer's first two films. Building from that, this movie also doesn't do as good a job of juggling its various plot threads as the first two did. It's lacking the fluidity that was previously in place, which in turn creates less natural transitions between everything. Of all the movies in this first trilogy, Last Stand definitely feels the most studio note-y of the bunch. That said...enough of the film still works well enough. There are a number of scenes that work within the film's context, the actors still feel dedicated to their roles and I like a lot of the action scenes. But there IS a shadow of a better movie that constantly looms over it.
**1/2 /****
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 2, 2020 19:20:15 GMT -5
PG Cooper vs. Twilight
Twilight
My partner was feeling nostalgic and wanted to revisit the Twilight Saga and though I have technically seen (and largely hated) the first movie, I thought it might be worth revisiting. Mostly because I barely remembered anything about the movie and wanted a refresher before diving into the full series but also because I'm more aware of the rampant misogyny that informed scathing reviews of Twilight and was worried my own harsh response might similarly have been influenced by latent sexism. Revisiting the film now, do I think my initial response was unfair?
Yes and no. I still think Twilight is quite bad for the most part, with some really bad dialogue, under-developed characters, and sloppy story structure. Also, that baseball scene is indeed hilariously bad. That said, I was more able to imagine the perspective of a pre-teen or teenage girl (you know, the people these movies are actually made for) and a had a better understanding of why someone might enjoy this movie. Not that I think it's especially good through that lens either, but the film's angsty longing and sense of identification through Bella do come through. I also appreciate that Catherine Hardwicke makes some efforts to adapt vampire aesthetics to this melodramatic teen romance, particularly in the dark lighting. It doesn't look great exactly but it is moody. The vampire make-up is less successful but I appreciate that Hardwicke is at least trying to make the characters look like vampires. The other thing that works in this movie's favor is that Hardwicke really leans into the whole "vampiricism as a metaphor for abstinence" thing and the film sort of works as a 21st century pre-teen version of Splendor in the Grass.
So overall, yeah, I think it's safe to say a lot of the more angry reviews of Twilight were tinged with wanting to laugh at something made for girls. That said, I do think the film is pretty bad. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and I'm writing this review having seen all of the sequels. Point being, for all its flaws, I do think the first Twilight is the best Twilight and had the series just been one movie I doubt it would be remembered with nearly as much scorn.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 2, 2020 19:21:56 GMT -5
Oh man. Coop.
Thank you for your sacrifice.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jun 2, 2020 19:33:52 GMT -5
I remember saying I actually kind of liked Eclipse when it first came out (mainly because of David Slade and how it felt the most self-aware of them up to that point).
I, of course, have since retracted such a ridiculous claim.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 2, 2020 19:36:05 GMT -5
Oh man. Coop. Thank you for your sacrifice. Don't call me a hero. I'm just a man. Page not found? I remember saying I actually kind of liked Eclipse when it first came out (mainly because of David Slade and how it felt the most self-aware of them up to that point). I, of course, have since retracted such a ridiculous claim.
Oh, we'll get to Eclipse.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 2, 2020 19:38:00 GMT -5
I remember saying I actually kind of liked Eclipse when it first came out (mainly because of David Slade and how it felt the most self-aware of them up to that point).
I, of course, have since retracted such a ridiculous claim.
LMFAO! David Slade. Wow. I forgot that dude existed. Did we ever rescue our “debates” over Hard Candy!? Good times. Btw, is MasterChief still alive or did the Corona get him?
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 2, 2020 19:42:16 GMT -5
That link worked earlier, now it's bitching out on me.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jun 2, 2020 19:44:43 GMT -5
I remember saying I actually kind of liked Eclipse when it first came out (mainly because of David Slade and how it felt the most self-aware of them up to that point). I, of course, have since retracted such a ridiculous claim.
Oh, we'll get to Eclipse. I already saw your Letterboxd review. I remember saying I actually kind of liked Eclipse when it first came out (mainly because of David Slade and how it felt the most self-aware of them up to that point).
I, of course, have since retracted such a ridiculous claim.
LMFAO! David Slade. Wow. I forgot that dude existed. Did we ever rescue our “debates” over Hard Candy!? Good times. Btw, is MasterChief still alive or did the Corona get him? Happily married, in fact.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 2, 2020 19:46:48 GMT -5
SON OF A BITCH!
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 2, 2020 19:50:45 GMT -5
Oh, we'll get to Eclipse. I already saw your Letterboxd review. LMFAO! David Slade. Wow. I forgot that dude existed. Did we ever rescue our “debates” over Hard Candy!? Good times. Btw, is MasterChief still alive or did the Corona get him? Happily married, in fact. More importantly, homeboy has three times as many Youtube subscribers as I do.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 2, 2020 19:51:18 GMT -5
DoomsdayBtw, is MasterChief still alive or did the Corona get him? Happily married, in fact. !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Neverending on Jun 2, 2020 19:51:50 GMT -5
I already saw your Letterboxd review. Happily married, in fact. More importantly, homeboy has three times as many Youtube subscribers as I do. !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 2, 2020 20:03:43 GMT -5
DoomsdayHappily married, in fact. !!!!!!!!!! More importantly, homeboy has three times as many Youtube subscribers as I do. !!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Neverending on Jun 2, 2020 20:14:30 GMT -5
I remember when MasterChief was the chubby kid everyone bullied. Even his dad was a member and would bitch him out from time to time. Look at him now. Married. Successful YouTuber. No wonder he pulled a Jibbs and abandoned us.
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 2, 2020 20:26:08 GMT -5
!!!!!!!
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 2, 2020 20:33:22 GMT -5
Damn!
What would it take for you guys to message him and tell him to pop over?
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 2, 2020 20:36:37 GMT -5
Damn! What would it take for you guys to message him and tell him to pop over? Make me a mod.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 2, 2020 20:37:49 GMT -5
Damn! What would it take for you guys to message him and tell him to pop over? Make me a mod. Make me an admin and ban PG Cooper.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 3, 2020 5:34:33 GMT -5
New Moon
I can't exactly verify this with evidence but I feel like New Moon is where the world really turned on the Twilight movies. It has a lower Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic score and was also nominated for four Razzies (let the record show that I have no respect for that institution, I'm merely trying to articulate the film's critical climate). That's less than New Moon's sequels, but it did start the trend of Twilight as a Razzie regular (the first film went without nomination). I can see why this is the film critics really turned on. I certainly wouldn't call the first Twilight good, but I get why it would work for its target audience. New Moon's failings are a lot more overt. The more unsavory/problematic elements of Edward's character are a lot more prominent, the film has a lot of crappy special effects, and director Chris Weitz largely abandons the moody style that Catherine Hardwicke brought to the first movie. There are also a lot more comically bad aspects, like the ghost Edward that shows up whenever Bella's about to do something dangerous.
A sense of laziness lingers over the whole movie, down to the fictional action movie the characters go to see at one point being called Face Punch. I get that this is really a nitpick but it's emblematic of a production where seemingly no one gave a shit, and that's reflected on the sloppy direction and bad dialogue. That said, New Moon's biggest flaw is simply that it's fucking boring. The movie starts eventful enough with Edward dumping Bella, but then the rest of the runtime consists mostly of Bella moping around with Jacob before eventually stopping Edward from doing a thing with the thinly defined series villains in Italy. I thought the first movie was dull, but in comparison that movie had a lot going on, introducing Bella as a new girl acclimatizing to a new town, meeting Edward and the Cullens, investigating into vampiricism, and eventually being targeted by another gang of vampires. There was real change. Here, Bella and Edward's relationship barely changes at all.
There's some entertainment here in a "so bad it's good" sort of way, but even that is pretty faint. I can't say this movie made me angry but it's very boring.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 3, 2020 7:56:55 GMT -5
Also: Since PG Cooper has a problem with the epic film of FacePunch for some reason, the Rifftrax further embellishes the lore of this movie by explaining it's just a movie starring Gerard Butler.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 3, 2020 8:10:23 GMT -5
Also: Since PG Cooper has a problem with the epic film of FacePunch for some reason, the Rifftrax further embellishes the lore of this movie by explaining it's just a movie starring Gerard Butler. I mean, that's pretty realistic.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 3, 2020 8:31:29 GMT -5
Day Three:Film Year: 2008 Director: Catherine Hardwicke Starring: Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, Anna Kendrick, a teacher who looks like Tony Shaloub but disappointingly is not Riff Year: 2009 Riffers: Michael J. Nelson, Kevin Murphy, Bill Corbett Selected Short: Going Steady? It's the most important decision you'll ever make: should I eat the rest of this BK Stacker, or just trust my vague feeling of nausea and quit while I'm ahead? But put that aside now and let's talk about the third most important decision you'll ever make*: should I go steady? The answer, of course, is no. But the short Going Steady doesn't settle for such easy answers. Instead it probes the question through the tortured angst of Marie, an insecure girl with "offbeat" good looks who can't shake her Jeff habit. Jeff, for his part, is a flannel-clad Lothario, prowling the high school hallways and leaving nothing but the shattered husks of broken-hearted bobby-soxers as his terrible toll. Otherwise, very polite young man. In the powerful third act, Marie confronts Jeff, and the reaction is as explosive as anything Judson T. Landis has ever done! Mike, Kevin and Bill learned everything they know about life, about love...and about laughter....from Going Steady.
*The 2nd is "should I take advantage of the zero percent financing on the hedge trimmer I want to buy?"How can you tell if you’re going steady? No seriously, I need to know. ::turns around:: HEY PHYLLIS! ARE WE GOING STEADY? Phyllis: NO! GET BACK TO YOUR INTERNET PORN! And there you have it! A sure fire way to find out if you’re going steady. Of course, the characters in this short have no clue if they’re going steady and get advice on what going steady exactly means. It’s a quaint short that fakes paternal advice to teenagers, basically. The riffing is solid, mocking the lunkhead characters to great effect. The simple story is beefed up, and the advice portions are made goofier and questionable. Even if you don’t get to second base, this short makes going steady fun! And now our feature presentation… RiffTrax was caught up in the Twilight frenzy, and not surprisingly, given that we are staffed almost exclusively by 13-year-old girls. So when we heard rumors of the feature film—the whispers of John Goodman being cast as Edward were especially worrying—we sent so many texts beginning "OMG!!!1!!!!11!!" we nearly shut down our SMS service.
At the movie's premiere we were there among the throngs, shrieking with girlish glee when Robert Pattinson got out of his limo (it turns out we had mistakenly gone to the premiere of The Changeling and were actually shrieking for John Malkovich, but the point still stands.) And when it was finally released on DVD we ruined our first three copies by hugging them too much.
But we've overcome these obstacles to give you the best RiffTrax for a sparkly-emo-vampire film that we know how to make, and we say with as much humility as we can muster, that's a pretty darn good sparkly-emo-vampire RiffTrax! Turn off that Ashley Tisdale download, tell the clerk at Hot Topic you'll buy that hoodie later, and cozy up with Mike, Kevin and Bill for the mopiest RiffTrax ever!There was a heavy debate as to whether or not Twilight was “Halloween” enough to include in this marathon. It is by genre a romance, but at it’s heart it’s a really crappy monster movie. Or at least that’s how I’m justifying it. But really what it boils down to is that I’m having a Rifftrax marathon, and I’d never forgive myself if I left out my favorite Rifftrax, horror movie or not. Unfortunately that probably means I’m peaking early, but at least my thirst for Twilight mockery has been satisfied. Twilight is that love it or hate it fad that we all have some sort of opinion on. We’re either in the camp of “SWOON” or “KILL IT WITH FIRE!” I was a steady boyfriend throughout half of the series’ run, so I unfortunately got to see two of these movies in theaters. It was interesting seeing my girlfriend’s split personality, as I heard her complain endlessly about the series being butchered for the big screen (like, you know, ALL young adult readers seem to do), but as she sat down to watch it the girlish glee emerged and she started squeeing with the rest of the fawning ladies of the audience. She thanked me numerous times for taking her to see them. Once i made the mistake of telling her that I didn’t hate the movies as much as she thought I did. She responded enthusiastically by asking if I wanted to borrow the books from her. My response was an instant and heavy “NO!” I actually wasn’t lying. Twilight is awful, but I thought the core idea of a more “folklore” take on vampires and werewolves had promise. They just botched it. But even after screwing it up, damn it’s funny. These movies are horrendously padded, poorly acted, feature trashy “not so special” effects, and are wholly empty experiences served as just a fantasy gateway for lonely women who want to see Bella as an avatar instead of a character. Mike, Kevin, and Bill expressed initial reluctance at tackling Twilight for Rifftrax, as they felt the angsty teenage romance was out of their core audience’s demographic. They however underestimated the sheer amount of people who wanted to see this movie made fun of. What they found in this film was a match made in heaven, far more than Bella and Edward could hope to be. There is SO MUCH to mock in this movie, and the long pauses, stifled sentence fragments, and dead air assure that there is plenty of time for the riffers to get their jokes in. An all time favorite joke amongst me and my friends is during the patches of silence where the boys just simply say the word “Line?” as if the characters were in a high school play. It’s a running gag so funny that they bring it back in their riffs for all four sequels. To me, this is perfection. It ranks right up there with the best of Mystery Science Theater 3000. I recommend this to anyone who dislikes the movie and is unwilling to sit through childish parodies like Vampires Suck or Breaking Wind. My childish parody is hands down the best of the bunch. Day Nine:Film Year: 2009 Director: Chris Weitz Starring: Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, Anna Kendrick, Michael Sheen, Dakota Fanning Riff Year: 2010 Riffers: Michael J. Nelson, Kevin Murphy, Bill Corbett Selected Short: How Much Affection? It's a question we ponder every time we tip the pizza guy: How much affection? Is it necessary to set the box down before embracing him? How long do you hold him, knowing that he has other deliveries to make? Can lower tips be compensated for with more affection?
How Much Affection? sadly touches on none of these issues; its Pizza Guy advice comes from the "30 Minutes or Free" era and is therefore quite out of date. What you will find in this short are dates that end in tears, sandwich making and a stern reminder of the potential Gerber-eating consequences of Too Much Affection.
Riffers Mike, Kevin and Bill differ wildly in their estimates of How Much Affection, but mostly because Bill insists on measuring affection using the metric system.Sex is a terrifying and evil thing that must be stomped out at all costs. This twenty minute short from the the 1950’s aims to do just that. Here we have two teenagers on the verge of making whoopie, but torn apart by vows of abstinence. Will having sex destroy their relationship? Honestly with the way the short portrays them as uncomfortable around each other makes me think it would actually SAVE it! But sex will bring babies upon the world. Babies are miraculous burdens that lead to misery. If you have one, you’re life will be ruined, but you will insist it’s the greatest joy you have ever known as you die a little every time you see that fake smile in the mirror. This is another moral the short tries to throw in your face. The short is one of those ambiguous “you decide what’s right” messaged films that will clearly be disappointed in you if you make the wrong choice. The right choice for me is to watch it with Mike, Kevin, and Bill. Their riffs are steady and workmanlike, but sometimes hit their target of the old-timey values that make this short amusing today. Back then love was only for those who could keep it in their pants. As for today? Well, how about that orgy? And now our feature presentation... Twi-Hard. A once proud word that has been shockingly cheapened by over-use. It used to mean something. These days, any given twelve year old girl with Team Edward wallpaper on her iPhone can be the star of a "Vampire Fever" cover story photo in USA Today. It's not right. Just because some soccer mom blows two months of grocery funds on an elaborate face tattoo replicating the iconic "Cullen baseball" scene, that DOES NOT make her a real Twi-Hard, okay? It's something you earn. It's something you live.
Forgive our emotion on this issue, but it's just that Mike, Kevin, and Bill are probably the biggest Twilight fans on the planet. Just survey Kristen Stewart's file of restraining order requests, and see which names pop up the most (Stephenie Meyer's file is alarmingly similar). So it should surprise no one that these three sparkly warriors trekked to the theater dozens upon dozens of times to feast upon the sweet succulent cinematic nectar that is New Moon. After the fourteenth viewing, the girl at the ticket counter was unable to make eye contact with them, muttering something about "grown men" under her breath. The pimply popcorn vendor filled his friends' inboxes with texts like "OMG third time today," while the theater janitor constantly fought the urge to beat them with his mop. In a word: epic.
But the shame they endured, along with the suffering of their long-neglected wives and children, is your gain. Thanks to these endless, obsessive, life-destroying viewings, Mike, Kevin, and Bill are able to present this RiffTrax of New Moon on the eve of its DVD release. Let's just hope that, now that the ride is over, they can put their lives back together once and for all (they're not making any more of these movies, right?).Surely you didn’t think I was only doing one Twilight movie, didn’t you? Haha, you dumb bastard, it’s all or nothing. We’re going the distance, baby. (Oh, I’ve wasted my life) What can I say about New Moon? Well, if I say nothing else about it it’s a much prettier movie than the first one. The flick has some gorgeous cinematography and does some neat camera tricks. Objectively is it a better movie than the first? Well………… Sorry, this is a long Twilight character pause, so give me twenty minutes and I’ll finish that thought. The first Twilight movie is about a mopey girl who eases her depression with a fascination with a boy at school who happens to be a vampire. New Moon is about a mopey girl who eases her depression with a fascination with a boy at school who happens to be a werewolf. Sure there are new concepts of world building sprinkled about in this movie, and if you’re really into the mythology of Twilight that might be engaging, but this is essentially the same movie we’ve seen before. And in the end pretty much nothing happens in this movie. We meet werewolves and flaming vampire kings. That’s it. And this is the longest movie in the series. Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. This is an inconsequential story that exists because people will buy it regardless of whether it’s good or not. It’s padded, bloated, boring, and a complete waste of time. From a technical perspective I can’t call it the worst Twilight movie, but in many ways it’s the easiest to resent because it exemplifies everything wrong with the franchise. “Complete sentence?.......NO! She’s oh for fifty!” Easing the boredom is this quality Rifftrax. One thing I will say right off the bat is that it’s not as good as the first one, not even close, but when the laughs peak the highs are just as gutbusting. Kristen Stewart’s stammering and just plain weird performance in this film is ripe for the mocking and the boys play with it like Jacob with a chew toy. One thing for me that brings this Trax down is there are quite a few gay jokes in this one. There are a few homoerotic gags in the first, but New Moon is positively saturated with them. I don’t find this too much of a detraction, since they’re not hateful and are sometimes funny if they strike at the right moment, but they play like a safe go-to joke when nothing better is offered. The moment where these could be the strongest is during the Volturi scenes at the end, because these guys are the perfect match for this humor, but by the time we get there we’ve heard so many similar gags that they feel tiresome. But overall New Moon is a worthy successor to the crown jewel of Rifftrax. It has moments where it lags often due to the bloat of the movie it’s linked to, but laughs await those who brave it. I’d suggest the first film for anyone who wants to sample Twilight Rifftrax over this, though.
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