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Post by Neverending on Oct 15, 2020 13:46:34 GMT -5
Just how scary is Poltergeist? Honestly...I’d say not very. But does that mean I think it fails in what it sets out to do? Not at all. The scare sequences themselves are well-done from a directing point of view -- Tobe Hooper certainly knows how to stage everything effectively -- but the movie showcases an over-reliance on special effects in those same sequences that sort of take away from some of the impact they ultimately have. By emphasizing special effects when it comes to showing the ghosts and whatnot, the film loses some of the dread that’s sort of inherent in the classic haunted house stories, which is essentially what Poltergeist is. The movie has glimpses of a darker edge, most notably the scene in which one of the paranormal investigators is “treated” to a vision of his face melting/decaying horrifically, and that’s perhaps the most effective special effect in the film. Also a point I will be addressing as I mostly agree. — — — — 31 DAYS OF HALLOWEENPoltergeist (1982)1982 was the year that Steven Spielberg became Steven Spielberg. Not only did he shatter box office records with E.T., proving that Jaws wasn't an isolated achievement, but he had his first success as a producer with Poltergeist. These two movies were literally released a week apart and gave audiences two different cinematic experiences, but also two very similar ones. Poltergeist is about a family living in a house built on top of a cemetery and then suffering the consequences. It's a brilliant premise for a horror movie, but man, Spielberg went nuts with the special effects. And yes, I'm specifically saying Spielberg because, regardless of what the credits say, Spielberg was the director of Poltergeist. He does an awesome job, but also too awesome of a job. There are moments in this movie where there is such a spectacle of special effects that it just stops being a horror movie and becomes something you can watch as a double feature with E.T. B+ 31 DAYS OF HALLOWEENPOLTERGEIST II: THE OTHER SIDE (1986)When I was 4 or 5 years old, I watched a horror movie about a guy who drank a bottle of liquor with a worm inside of it and then turned crazy. For YEARS I wondered what the heck that movie was, now imagine my reaction when I found out it was Poltergeist II: The Other Side. It's almost like a piece of my childhood was destroyed. This unnecessary sequel took a simple concept about building a house on top of a cemetery and turned it into Jaws 4: The Revenge. To give the movie credit, it does have great special effects, which were nominated for an Academy Award, and some exciting moments. But the bulk of it is pointless and lacking creativity. D says DoomsdayPOLTERGEIST III (1988)There's no reason for Poltergeist II to exist, but it does, so the damage was done and opened the doors for Poltergeist III. This time, the action is moved from the suburbs to the city and becomes Gremlins 2. Seriously. I'm almost convinced that Gremlins 2 was spoofing Poltergeist III. They're the exact same movie. It's Meta-Spielberg. Like its predecessor, the special effects are great but the story is dumb. Actually, it's dumber. I didn't think it was possible to write a worse script than Poltergeist II but they pulled it off. In a way, that's a great achievement. D+ says SnoBorderZero 31 DAYS OF HALLOWEENPoltergeist (2015)Has there ever been a franchise where the movies got worse and worse? Martin Scorsese has a great foundation dedicated to the preservation of cinema. But you know what? Some movies don't deserve to be rescued from decay. If a hundred years from now the sequels and remake to Poltergeist faded from existence, I would be okay with that. They don't even have educational value. If you want to teach people about unnecessary sequels, and have it be related to Steven Spielberg, there's the Jaws franchise. So do yourself a favor. Watch the original and pretend the rest didn't happen. D-
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 15, 2020 13:48:53 GMT -5
Night Skies and E.T. are the same project. I'm aware. Night Skies simultaneously became E.T. and Poltergeist. Spielberg used E.T. to fulfill his desire to make another alien movie while Poltergeist fulfilled his desire to do a horror movie after Tobe Hooper suggested Night Skies be changed from aliens to ghosts.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 15, 2020 13:54:04 GMT -5
Night Skies and E.T. are the same project. I'm aware. Night Skies simultaneously became E.T. and Poltergeist. Spielberg used E.T. to fulfill his desire to make another alien movie while Poltergeist fulfilled his desire to do a horror movie after Tobe Hooper suggested Night Skies be changed from aliens to ghosts. Also Gremlins
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 15, 2020 14:02:21 GMT -5
I'm aware. Night Skies simultaneously became E.T. and Poltergeist. Spielberg used E.T. to fulfill his desire to make another alien movie while Poltergeist fulfilled his desire to do a horror movie after Tobe Hooper suggested Night Skies be changed from aliens to ghosts. Also Gremlins He didn't secretly direct that one, though.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 15, 2020 14:07:15 GMT -5
He didn't secretly direct that one, though. Night Skies became several movies, even beyond Spielberg. Signs (produced by Frank Marshall) is Night Skies.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 15, 2020 14:09:40 GMT -5
How has no one pointed out that Gizmo and Yoda are essentially the same only one has hair and the other doesn't?
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 15, 2020 14:10:37 GMT -5
He didn't secretly direct that one, though. Night Skies became several movies, even beyond Spielberg. Signs (produced by Frank Marshall) is Night Skies. Also, the Blumhouse movie Dark Skies, which is quite literally Night Skies, just without the farm setting.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 15, 2020 14:12:12 GMT -5
How has no one pointed out that Gizmo and Yoda are essentially the same only one has hair and the other doesn't? The Gremlins are just Yoda on crack.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 17, 2020 12:47:43 GMT -5
I rewatched Close Encounters for reasons and it further clarified how crazy Neverending is. It's maybe my second favourite Spielberg movie. Maybe. Richard Dreyfuss's performance is a huge part of things. He's so good. Won the Oscar that year for the wrong movie.
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Post by Doomsday on Oct 17, 2020 12:51:24 GMT -5
I rewatched Close Encounters for reasons and it further clarified how crazy Neverending is. It's maybe my second favourite Spielberg movie. Maybe. Richard Dreyfuss's performance is a huge part of things. He's so good. Won the Oscar that year for the wrong movie. Is The Terminal #1?
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 17, 2020 12:54:53 GMT -5
I rewatched Close Encounters for reasons and it further clarified how crazy Neverending is. It's maybe my second favourite Spielberg movie. Maybe. Richard Dreyfuss's performance is a huge part of things. He's so good. Won the Oscar that year for the wrong movie. Is The Terminal #1? Hell yeah. Justice for Krakozhia.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 17, 2020 13:08:20 GMT -5
It's maybe my second favourite Spielberg movie. You should get tested for Covid.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 17, 2020 13:11:42 GMT -5
I rewatched Close Encounters for reasons and it further clarified how crazy Neverending is. It's maybe my second favourite Spielberg movie. Maybe. Richard Dreyfuss's performance is a huge part of things. He's so good. Won the Oscar that year for the wrong movie. Is The Terminal #1? Hey, now, don't rag on The Terminal. That movie's goddamn delightful.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 17, 2020 13:14:53 GMT -5
It's maybe my second favourite Spielberg movie. You should get tested for Covid. Ideally we all should. Can't be too careful.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 17, 2020 13:33:58 GMT -5
Hey, now, don't rag on The Terminal. That movie's goddamn delightful. Still waiting for PG Cooper’s video essay
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 17, 2020 13:44:12 GMT -5
Hey, now, don't rag on The Terminal. That movie's goddamn delightful. Still waiting for PG Cooper’s video essay I've essentially dropped a new video every week for the last four weeks. I'm very tired.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 22, 2020 11:32:56 GMT -5
Is it spamming to share my video a third time in one day? Maybe, but I promised PhantomKnight I'd be here so I gotta deliver.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Oct 22, 2020 12:02:40 GMT -5
Is it spamming to share my video a third time in one day? Maybe, but I promised PhantomKnight I'd be here so I gotta deliver. And deliver, you did. Nice work.
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Post by Doomsday on Nov 3, 2020 15:45:47 GMT -5
In preparation for Phantom's E.T. review here's the audition tape of Henry Thomas:
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 3, 2020 19:05:51 GMT -5
The last time I saw E.T. in full might've been the late 90's/early 00's, so this should be an interesting watch.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 7, 2020 19:54:54 GMT -5
E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL (1982)
After Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Steven Spielberg felt a desire to make another movie about contact with alien life. The initial form of said follow-up, however, was very different. It started out as a project called Night Skies, which would've seen a rural family terrorized by aliens descending upon their farmhouse. That particular plot would eventually be molded into Poltergeist, with the help of Tobe Hooper. But still, Spielberg wanted to do another alien movie -- while also incorporating elements of his own childhood after the production of 1941 caused him to have to abandon a sort of autobiographical project entitled Growing Up. So, he met with screenwriter Melissa Mathison, and thus, E.T. was born. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial can easily be considered a staple of many people's childhood, especially if you're of a certain age. Me myself having been born in 1990, this was definitely a movie I remember watching as a child...yet as I grew older, sort of just fell out of the rotation. As such, I think the last time I watched it in full before now must have been in either the late 90's or early 00's. I've been trying to figure out why that is, though, cause from what I remember, I didn't dislike it at all. Maybe it's because this movie has a more quiet, less energetic charm to it than a lot of what I was watching at the time. Because while this is most certainly a family film, with an almost universal (no pun intended) appeal, it's also very confident in that it knows it doesn't need to constantly throw wacky humor or crazy misadventures at you every five minutes like a lot of other family films. Instead -- for what it is -- E.T. is a largely sophisticated movie (and in sophisticated family films, insults like "penis breath" are definite hallmarks) that knows where to draw its power from: the main friendship between a boy and an alien at the heart of the story. This isn't a movie driven so much by plot as it is by emotion, and in that regard, E.T. succeeds. We don't need to care so much about why E.T. and his race came to Earth in the first place or how exactly he's going to get back -- all we need to care about is is that Elliot forms such a strong bond with E.T. that he feels motivated to help and keep him out of harm's way. And that's precisely where Steven Spielberg and Melissa Mathison succeed. E.T. can sort of be seen as the beginning of the more sentimental qualities that Spielberg would come to be known for in a lot of his work, and it's a hell of a debut for such sensibilities. Just like with Close Encounters of the Third Kind, we once again get a fractured family unit at the center of all the drama, and this is where you can see Spielberg drawing on his own experiences with a father-less childhood. The early scenes showing how this family works without a Dad certainly have an air of authenticity to them, which gives them a sort of quiet power. In particular, Dee Wallace turns in some very strong work as the mother trying to hold everything together. But you know, watching these scenes made me realize something. As much as Spielberg is known for his sense of spectacle and whatnot, he's also really adept at rendering relatable portraits of families, especially if there's emotional baggage there. Seeing the way this family is with each other really helps establish the emotional throughline for the film, but more importantly, firmly establishes the point of view Spielberg would tell this story from: that of a kid's, in this case, Elliot. Spielberg and Melissa Mathison first achieve this by making Elliot sympathetic, but more importantly, mainly just your average kid. He's in need of something to help him cope with the divorce of his parents, and that's where E.T. comes in. Ultimately, this is a movie about friendship and childlike wonder, and Spielberg expresses the latter in more than one way. The obvious one is the way in which he shoots a lot of the movie. Apart from Elliot's mother, every adult here is shot both from behind and sort of at waist-level. My assessment of this is that Elliot's mom is perhaps supposed to be the only one worthy or capable of "being in the club", so to speak, whereas every other adult here is an authority figure of some kind. And it's not until they're made aware of E.T.'s existence where we see their faces. But consider the Peter Coyote character. For most of the movie, he's presented as the faceless villain, but when E.T. becomes sick, there's one line of dialogue he has that wipes away any preconceived notions of villains in this story: "He came to me, too. I've been wishing for this since I was ten years old." It just reinforces the film's theme of childlike wonder; nearly every character in this is a child at heart. A theme Spielberg would later deal with again in Hook years later. Sidenote: there's a scene here in which the mom is reading Peter Pan to Gertie. And that theme feeds into how well-done the emotionality of this movie really is. Because we buy into Elliot and E.T.'s friendship so much, we feel Elliot's pain just as much as he does when E.T. falls gravely ill -- although I'll admit, that section of the movie feels a bit too drawn-out and it comes in kind of abruptly. And we're just as caught up in the ending. Basically, Spielberg showed here how skilled he would become at emotionally playing his audience like a fiddle, but the sentimentality is well-earned. Another facet of this is John Williams' music, which is phenomenal and some of his best work. Honestly, looking back, I can't say why E.T. fell by the wayside for me over the years. Perhaps it just got overshadowed by a lot of my other Spielberg favorites, but the truth is this is up there with a lot of those works. It's a great blend of his genre and dramatic sensibilities, as well as a movie worthy of all the decades of praise it's gotten in the years since. E.T. has endured for a reason.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 7, 2020 22:11:43 GMT -5
this was definitely a movie I remember watching as a child...yet as I grew older, sort of just fell out of the rotation. Cause it’s boring as hell until the government shows up to kidnap ET. There are far better 80’s family movies. All the Star Wars. All the Indiana Jones. All the Back to the Futures. Those Chris Reeve Superman movies. Ghostbusters. Tim Burton stuff (including Batman). The list goes on. ET is great when you’re like in Kindergarten. By the time you’re in 3rd grade you wanna watch Michael Keaton kick down a tree, honk his crotch, and shout, “nice fucking model.”
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 7, 2020 23:53:58 GMT -5
Or, you know...you can grow older and still hold an appreciation for some of the more wholesome things.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 8, 2020 0:23:14 GMT -5
Or, you know...you can grow older and still hold an appreciation for some of the more wholesome things. Trust me. I cry like a bitch at the end every time. But most of the movie sucks.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 8, 2020 13:41:11 GMT -5
Or, you know...you can grow older and still hold an appreciation for some of the more wholesome things. But most of the movie sucks. Nah.
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