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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 26, 2020 18:58:08 GMT -5
I've only got one vote to give to a Ghost Rider movie, and it isn't this one. Anybody who loves Spirit of Vengeance is my best friend. I love that fucking movie.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 26, 2020 20:30:03 GMT -5
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 26, 2020 21:53:35 GMT -5
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 26, 2020 22:07:55 GMT -5
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 26, 2020 22:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 27, 2020 19:04:56 GMT -5
THE FINAL VOTE:A History of ViolenceWhile I admittedly remember little about A History of Violence, I feel safe in saying what I do remember of it is at the very least better than Ghost Rider, which I consider to be the worst Marvel flick since Captain America. The ScoreA History of Violence: 10 Ghost Rider: 0WINNER:DCLet's celebrate by fucking on the staircase.FLAWLESS VICTORY! Viggo shoots Cage in the head and DC ties it up in what is shaping up to be the comeback of the century. DC: 10 Marvel: 10 Draw: 1ROUND 22!
IN THIS CORNERSuperheroes: Hugo Weaving as V Supervillains: John Hurt as Adam Sutler, Tim Pigott-Smith as Creedy, Roger Allen as Lewis Prothero, Ben Miles as Dascombe Civilians: Natalie Portman as Evey Hammond, Stephen Tea as Inspector Finch, Stephen Frye as Gordon Deitrich Run Time: 2 Hours 12 Minutes Director: James McTeigue (Ninja Assassin, The Raven, Breaking In) Writer: Andy (currently Lilly) Wachowski & Larry (currently Lana) Wachowski (The Matrix, Speed Racer, Jupiter Ascending) Music: Dario Marionelli (Kubo and the Two Strings, Paddington 2, Bumblebee) Cinematography: Adrien Biddle (Aliens, The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold, Judge Dredd, Shanghai Knights, Reign of Fire) I LOVE THIS FILMOGRAPHY Tomatometer: 73% IMDB: 8.2 Story: In a future fascist society, a man in a Guy Fawkes mask named V fights against the government of the United Kingdom with extremist measures. During his fight, he protects a woman from the Fingerman law enforcement named Evey Hammond and takes her back to his lair, where he tries to keep her until his master plan on November 5th is put into motion. Pros: Alan Moore hates it and is a raving madman. For some reason, this comforts me. Cons: Has lesbians, but instead of being hot, it's just kind of sad. AND IN THIS CORNERSuperheroes: Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spider-Man Supervillains: Thomas Hayden Church as Flint Marko/Sandman, Topher Grace as Eddie Brock/Venom, James Franco as Harry Osborn Civilians: Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson, J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson, Rosemary Harris as May Parker, Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy, Bill Nunn as Robbie Robertson, Elizabeth Banks as Betty Brant, Ted Raimi as Hoffman, Dylan Baker as Dr. Curt Conners Run Time: 2 Hour 19 Minutes (Theatrical Cut), 2 Hours 17 Minutes (Editor's Cut) Director: Sam Raimi (Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2) Writer: Sam Raimi & Ivan Raimi (Darkman, Army of Darkness, Drag Me to Hell), Alvin Sergeant (Spider-Man 2) Music: Christopher Young (Ghost Rider) Cinematographer: Bill Pope (Spider-Man 2) Tomatometer: 63% IMDB: 6.2 Story: Life starts to balance out for Peter Parker as he's in a happy relationship with Mary Jane, succeeding in school, and still finding time to be Spider-Man, though Mary Jane secretly struggles with the life of being the girlfriend of a superhero. But as these relationship issues arise, secrets from the past emerge, as it's discovered that criminal-on-the-run Flint Marko is the man who gunned down Ben Parker years ago, and due to an experiment gone awry he can now mutate into sand particles. Struggling with his emotions, Peter bonds with an alien symbiote that is attracted to both his anger and power, which enhances these traits to make Spider-Man not only a force to be reckoned with, but incredibly dangerous as well. Pros: Now dig on this... Cons: Anybody who has a problem with Peter Parker's dancing in this movie will have their vote disqualified during this round. FIGHT!
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jul 27, 2020 19:17:43 GMT -5
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I watch this movie every fifth of November. I never watch Spider-Man 3. Once was enough, and I wound up watching it a second time with the kids. I try not force my opinions of movies upon them. It's a painful thing to do, sometimes.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 27, 2020 19:21:12 GMT -5
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 27, 2020 19:27:23 GMT -5
Spider-Man 3.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2020 19:33:47 GMT -5
V for Vendetta has some pretty cool scenes but it's also kinda boring. I would need to re-watch the movie to breakdown why it doesn't quite work.
Spider-Man 3, on the other hand, is pretty fucking hilarious.
My vote goes to Spider-Man 3
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 27, 2020 20:06:40 GMT -5
V for.....teeheehee.
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 27, 2020 20:47:01 GMT -5
Nothing in V is as good as this scene which is almost enough to make me forgive a lot of 3's faults.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 27, 2020 20:49:32 GMT -5
Nothing in V is as good as this scene which is almost enough to make me forgive a lot of 3's faults. I've always loved this scene.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 27, 2020 21:49:57 GMT -5
V For Vendetta. Spider-Man 3 is a movie with some admittedly good ideas, but it bites off more than it can chew and collapses under the weight of a lot of bullshit.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2020 22:03:58 GMT -5
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a movie with some admittedly good ideas, but it bites off more than it can chew and collapses under the weight of a lot of bullshit. Fixed
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 27, 2020 22:13:16 GMT -5
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a movie with some admittedly good ideas, but it bites off more than it can chew and collapses under the weight of a lot of bullshit. Fixed
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 27, 2020 22:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2020 22:26:58 GMT -5
--- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) vs Spider-Man 3 (2007)I don't think people realize just how awful The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is until they compare it to Spider-Man 3. To make it easier to comprehend, I'll break it down into categories. StructureSpider-Man 3 juggles its various characters and plotlines by centering everything around Peter Parker. His relationship with Mary Jane is on bumpy roads, his best friend is trying to kill him, his uncle's killer escaped from jail, the new guy at work is trying to steal a promotion, and oh, did I mention, a space parasite is feeding off his emotions. It's convoluted but everything is resolved by the end. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has no focal point. It jumps from one thing to the next with no rhyme or reason and everything is left open for sequels and spin-off's. That's not to say there's no plot or things are difficult to follow. It's actually quite simple. Oscorp is creating bad guys. Peter's dad tried to intervene and now he's continuing the crusade. In the meantime, he has a girlfriend, a stressed out aunt and bills to pay. The problem is that none of this is told through a 3-act story. It's just a series of segments strung together. CharactersThe best thing about the Amazing duology is the chemistry between Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Other than them, the characters are forgettable. In the case of part 2, you have the Rhino who's there just to be there, a mentally retarded Electro and an edgy teen Harry Osborne. Spider-Man 3 gave us a Harry Osborne who had been established over the course of three movies, a Sandman who turned to crime to provide health care for his sick daughter and an overly ambitious Eddie Brock who'll do anything to succeed as a news photographer. These characters were more thought out and serve the story and emotions. ActionUltimately, these are summer blockbusters and what audiences are mostly interested in is the action. That's why Captain America: Civil War paused its story so there could be a silly fight scene at an airport. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the same. The threw in the Rhino just to have two extra action scenes and threw in the Green Goblin at the last minute to extend the finale and force a death scene. Spider-Man 3 suffers a bit from that. There was so many plot points and characters to introduce that had to throw in action scenes just to keep people awake. But once the story settles in, the action scenes feel more organic and emotionally driven. ConclusionSam Raimi is a better filmmaker than Marc Webb. The three Spider-Man movies are better than the two Amazing Spider-Man movies.
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Post by frankyt on Jul 27, 2020 22:30:43 GMT -5
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 27, 2020 22:35:14 GMT -5
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a movie with some admittedly good ideas, but it bites off more than it can chew and collapses under the weight of a lot of bullshit. Fixed Push, joke’s on you, buddy, cause I do in fact like The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2020 22:40:15 GMT -5
I do in fact like The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
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