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Post by Dracula on Nov 9, 2014 2:22:29 GMT -5
Everyone here knows that I've been a pretty big Christopher Nolan defender over the years, and it's with that in mind that it pains me to report that I found Interstellar to be flawed and disappointing. Going to be a while until I get a full review written, but I found a lot of the writing to be a little clunky and most of the characters to be kind of weak. I didn't really like Nolan's decision to give such a limited view of what future-Earth was like. The story was predicated on some coincidences that I couldn't really overlook and found that the film fell into some cliched territory all too often. From a visual/spectacle perspective I thought Gravity did the space thing better and might have even thought that Prometheus did the alien planet thing better. I also think Nolan sort of shot himself in the foot by inviting so many comparisons to 2001 on even a basic story level without achieving anywhere near the same level of mystery or grandeur. Having said all that, I do think there's still a whole lot to admire about it (especially towards the end), but I do ultimately think it's a failure.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 9, 2014 2:38:53 GMT -5
Bummer. But I understand.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 9, 2014 12:02:20 GMT -5
And to follow up 9 hours later: Why say you're a Nolan "defender" instead of fan? Has his body of work as a whole been diminished now? Are you a closeted Nolan fan until his next hit?
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Post by John on Nov 9, 2014 15:44:53 GMT -5
Yeah I don't understand that either. Even if you didn't like 'Interstellar', it's not like he's a controversial director with a lot of people on both sides of the fence. Generally people are fans of his work, and he's probably made something you really enjoyed. I don't think there are any Nolan "defenders" because he's not a director who needs defending.
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Post by Dracula on Nov 9, 2014 16:19:30 GMT -5
And to follow up 9 hours later: Why say you're a Nolan "defender" instead of fan? Has his body of work as a whole been diminished now? Are you a closeted Nolan fan until his next hit? His body of work hasn't diminished for me in the slightest, in fact this was a good reminder of how much I loved Inception. By defender I mostly meant that I defend his work against the general backlash that seems to have come out against it. You know, arguments with... certain people... about how great The Dark Knight movies are.
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 9, 2014 17:01:02 GMT -5
And to follow up 9 hours later: Why say you're a Nolan "defender" instead of fan? Has his body of work as a whole been diminished now? Are you a closeted Nolan fan until his next hit? His body of work hasn't diminished for me in the slightest, in fact this was a good reminder of how much I loved Inception. Indeed. If anything it helped me appreciate Inception more as well. Like I said earlier it's hard for me to be so hard on this movie, because you can tell Nolan was really trying hard to accomplish something out of his comfort zone. But even with it's flaws. It has a lot to offer. I don't know... I think in time we will see how it holds up it's too early for me to say. It will need more viewings. Inception held up pretty strongly over the years.
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 9, 2014 17:06:02 GMT -5
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Post by Knerys on Nov 9, 2014 17:15:48 GMT -5
Everyone here knows that I've been a pretty big Christopher Nolan defender over the years, and it's with that in mind that it pains me to report that I found Interstellar to be flawed and disappointing. Going to be a while until I get a full review written, but I found a lot of the writing to be a little clunky and most of the characters to be kind of weak. I didn't really like Nolan's decision to give such a limited view of what future-Earth was like. The story was predicated on some coincidences that I couldn't really overlook and found that the film fell into some cliched territory all too often. From a visual/spectacle perspective I thought Gravity did the space thing better and might have even thought that Prometheus did the alien planet thing better. I also think Nolan sort of shot himself in the foot by inviting so many comparisons to 2001 on even a basic story level without achieving anywhere near the same level of mystery or grandeur. Having said all that, I do think there's still a whole lot to admire about it (especially towards the end), but I do ultimately think it's a failure. Did we see the same movie?
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Post by Neverending on Nov 9, 2014 17:28:16 GMT -5
Did we see the same movie? Wait 6 months and ask that questions again.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 9, 2014 18:00:55 GMT -5
I don't know... I think in time we will see how it holds up it's too early for me to say. It will need more viewings. Inception held up pretty strongly over the years. I only barely gave it four stars, I too am curious how it will hold up. For now I'm happy with my rating.
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Post by Knerys on Nov 9, 2014 18:24:59 GMT -5
Did we see the same movie? Wait 6 months and ask that questions again. I doubt I'll be calling this a failure in 6 months.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Nov 9, 2014 18:40:27 GMT -5
I tried to avoid spoilers, but just in case, be cautious: The opening shot of director Christopher Nolan's new sci-fi epic Interstellar is of toy models of rocket ships gathering dust as they lay forgotten on bookshelves, relics of a time when there was more hope in the world, and it's a shot that subtly grabs you while also being rather telling. Not only do those dust-coated rockets foreshadow the civilization in this film that's had its dreams and future crushed by the crippling reality of nature and/or destiny, it's not hard to conclude that the somber image also maybe represents the mostly forgotten ideals of Hollywood to push boundaries and go to new places. With Interstellar, Nolan -- who has become one of the best modern day film directors -- intends to reawaken that desire for discovery, and his appropriately-themed film does just that in spades. It's experiences like the one I had while watching Interstellar that remind me exactly why I love movies in the first place. It's about wanting to be transported somewhere exciting, to feel like you're going on a journey to somewhere incredible that you don't want to leave, and Interstellar is a film equally powerful enough in both scope and pure, raw feeling that it accomplishes that feat.
The setting is a future where a blight has put our species on a path for extinction. Unrelenting dust storms have gradually depleted our natural resources to the point where the human race is barely getting by as it is. Food is the last remaining commodity, and even that is dwindling fast, with corn being the only remaining thing in that regard, but not for much longer. A rural, widowed farmer named Cooper (Matthew McConaughey), also a former NASA pilot, can sense the end coming but chooses to remain as hopeful as he can for the benefit of his two children and father-in-law (John Lithgow). That sense of hope is renewed aplenty, however, after Cooper gets his hands on a mysteriously-downed surveillance drone, which sets off a small chain of events that leads him and his young daughter Murph (Mackenzie Foy) to an underground facility, but not just any underground facility: NASA. There, Cooper encounters Professor Brand (Michael Caine), a former colleague who reveals to Cooper the existence of a wormhole located in the vicinity of Saturn, as well as the plan to mobilize a crew to travel through it and search the uncharted territory on the other side for viable options to relocate the human race. Brand convinces Cooper to pilot the mission, traveling with the professor's daughter Amelia (Anne Hathaway) and physicist Romilly (David Gyasi) and geographer Doyle (Wes Bentley). Cooper's decision to go -- for years, as the journey takes the crew to unknown new planets -- causes he and Murph to part on bad terms, and it's a decision that hangs heavy over both their heads, especially years later on Earth when Murph has grown into an adult (Jessica Chastain) and is trying to follow in her father's footsteps.
As I sat in the theater, mostly staring in marvel at the IMAX screen on which I saw this film, three comparisons to other highly-lauded science fiction films came to mind: Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Robert Zemeckis's Contact. Interstellar is very much in the tradition of those films, wherein all of the more lavish and extraordinary aspects of the story are firmly in support of the emotional proponents that essentially drive the film, especially as they relate to the characters. For all of the vast and sheer scope on display in this film, Interstellar always remains an intimately personal affair, and as a result, it's all the more engrossing. The comparisons this movie will most commonly draw are ones to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and to be frank, as much admiration as I have for that film, it never felt like a story I could get emotionally involved in. Interstellar, on the other hand, doesn't have that issue. If the big ideas and ambitions of Kubrick's sci-fi opus were combined with some really emotionally resonant drama -- ideas and ambitions that are fascinating but which I don't consider myself well-read enough on scientific theories to even attempt to try to dissect -- then the end result, I think, would look something like this.
In fact, it's safe to say that Interstellar is Christopher Nolan's most unabashedly sentimental film to date, but that's not necessarily a bad thing; not at all. If you're someone who objects to emotional manipulation that can come off as in-your-face, then be warned, because there's plenty of that to go around here. A few weeks ago, I criticized The Judge for being a rather egregious offender in that regard, but the difference between that and Interstellar is that Nolan's film takes the time to carefully construct character relationships that are strong enough where when the time comes for them to be faced with tragedy and distress, those moments carry real weight and conviction rather than feeling like strings being pulled to get a reaction. Christopher Nolan and his co-screenwriter/brother Jonathan do this by first establishing a future that's not too elaborate, but rather grounded and focused on the stakes involved. This relatively smaller canvas in comparison to other doomed future scenarios allows for the more emotional angle the filmmakers are going for, and it serves to enhance the bigger aspects of the film. There were quite a few times throughout where I was on the verge of tears, and yet I never felt like I was being hit over the head with sentimentality. In terms of offering an experience that isn't driven solely by excitement, I'm pretty sure Interstellar has the edge over last year's Gravity.
This is also a result of the acting, which is stellar (no pun intended) across the board. Just because he's fresh off an Oscar win, it's clear that Matthew McConaughey isn't content to merely rest on his laurels, as he gives another riveting performance as Cooper, possibly among his best roles to date. McConaughey brings a lot of nuance to the part and makes Cooper not only a very sympathetic character, but also one we can easily root for. There are many major dramatic beats for the character that McConaughey just hits out of the park. Anne Hathaway, David Gyasi and Wes Bentley all provide equally strong work, Hathaway in particular and especially in some one-on-one scenes towards the end. But perhaps the real revelation of the cast is young Mackenzie Foy, who can be utterly heartbreaking as the young Murph. The scenes in the first hour that build the father-son dynamic between her and Cooper are very strong and are another reason why the film works so well emotionally. Also really effective is Jessica Chastain, who continues Foy's great work as the adult Murph and is just as great.
Christopher Nolan keeps his status as one of the best modern-day directors going with how he directs this film. Nolan has always strived to do as much practically as possible, and while I'm not sure how he pulled off the outer space scenes (not the planet sequences) with that mindset, those parts are still impressive nonetheless. Specifically, there's a sequence a little over two hours into the movie where I was simply in awe. It's an action sequence of sorts, reminiscent of something in Inception, but the way Nolan brings together imagery, a feeling of excitement and music for that portion had my eyes wide and left me practically on the edge of my seat while I felt giddy, for lack of a better term. Speaking of the music, Hans Zimmer once again has teamed up with Nolan for the score, and he delivers something quite unlike his usual stuff. Zimmer primarily uses what sounds like a church organ as his instrument of choice this time around, and while the score definitely partakes in bombast (which I actually like in scores), it can also be quieter during the more character-driven moments. The use of the organ actually adds to the "space opera" feel, and I loved it. Nolan just seems to have a knack for knowing how to pull together all of the necessary elements for a successful film, and with Interstellar, he may have crafted his most ambitious film to date ... and it pays off.
This isn't fanboyism talking, this is genuine excitement for the work of a major talent who knows how to make extremely worthwhile mainstream fare. Interstellar marks an invigorating accomplishment for Christopher Nolan, whose credits already included The Dark Knight and Inception, and he's certainly proven himself worthy of being among the stars. Go. See. This. Movie.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 9, 2014 18:59:21 GMT -5
Well done. I forgot to mention a small detail I liked. The small, but telling detail of how Murph's teacher didn't believe the Apollo moon landing really happened. What a great idea to show the denial our civilization has fallen into about our ability to even do anything about our problems. It's much easier just to say we're a bunch of dumb apes who are destined to die on this rock. The ignoramuses version of Big Brother.
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Post by Knerys on Nov 9, 2014 21:32:43 GMT -5
Well done. I forgot to mention a small detail I liked. The small, but telling detail of how Murph's teacher didn't believe the Apollo moon landing really happened. What a great idea to show the denial our civilization has fallen into about our ability to even do anything about our problems. It's much easier just to say we're a bunch of dumb apes who are destined to die on this rock. The ignoramuses version of Big Brother. I physically recoiled at that part and got mad.
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Post by Knerys on Nov 9, 2014 22:35:32 GMT -5
I'm going to preface this review with a personal statement.... I love space. I love space exploration. I nearly went into engineering with the aspirations to work for NASA. As an 11 year old kid reading about Armstrong, Lovell and Young, I didn't care about the politics of why we went to the moon, just the we actually got there! It makes me smile that there's a little satellite from our little blue marble hurling itself through the interstellar super highway and it still works! It's a funny thing that what started as an arms race attracted and kept the very people needed to give it the value and justification to make space exploration a legitimate goal for humanity. Not to say there haven't been bumps. Accidents, funding issues, lack of public and political interest have slowed the progress. NASA is currently riding one now in trying to maintain the ISS without a launch vehicle of its own. Even so, I deeply and unapologetically believe that our place as a species lies somewhere out there and not down here, be it in 1000 years or in the next 50. Interstellar speaks so candidly about this and other sensibilities. It's been a while since I could watch a movie and think to myself, “My god, you understand.” Visually, the movie delivers nothing less than you would expect from Nolan. From the dusty towns of Earth to the craggy glaciers of alien planets and the terrifying wonders of spacial anomalies, we get the fine detail that Nolan so painstaking recreates, often practically, to allow the audience a bonafide and tangible environment to exist in. In an era where entire movies can be filmed against a green scene, it's nice to look at an “alien” landscape and know it's actually there. Nolan has also become every adept at incorporating the IMAX film, blending it in so seamlessly you soak up the increased scope without really noticing the change in film ratio. The music is excellent. Harmonic chords create a haunting quality of sound that complements the visual feast at every turn. Even the absence of sound adds to the palpable emptiness you'd expect in space. The story is simple. Earth is dying and we need to find another home, but it's in the examination of people's motivations and choices that flesh out the narrative. Decision are made with the full run of the spectrum, from calculated evidence to selfish logic to reckless abandon. Someone called this emotionally predictable, and sentiment does permeate much of the story, but humans are creatures of social habits. When given two options virtually equal in measure we gravitate towards the familiar. Survival is paramount and self sacrifice is last resort. That's just how we are built and the film addresses the effects and consequences of that. If your not a fan of long movies the first act might bore you a little but it wasn't a problem for me. I liked being able to exist on this broken Earth for a little while, to understand it's challenges and what's at stake. Once the movie moves into the 2nd act the pacing evens out and it's quite a ride the rest of the way. McConaughey is still riding high with another great performance and his dynamic with Mackenzie Foy's Murphy is genuinely touching to watch. Foy herself is a promising young talent and actually manages to out do her older counter parts in her portrayal of Murph. Caine and Lithgow are their usual sturdy selves, and though I have no complaints about any one singular performance, I have to say TARS and CASE steal the show and are definitely one of my favorite elements of the film. It's refreshing take on the “robots with personality” trope and an interesting representation of the role of technology in this potential future. Over all, it's an excellent ensemble and they keep the sentimentality from tipping too far into melodrama. Interstellar is visually arresting, emotionally stunning, and ambitiously crafted. I've always appreciated Nolan's practical approach to grand film making and his commitment to his ultimate vision. Here is no exception. It's something to behold and you really should see it in IMAX. I mentioned before this spoke to several of my deepest sensibilities: as a science enthusiast, as a movie lover and as a resident of planet Earth. Beyond its technical merits, beyond it's visual beauty, beyond digital vs. film and the hype vs. the hate, this film understood me to my very being. And that's so rare anymore. A
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 9, 2014 23:09:39 GMT -5
Just gotta rub it in with the Imax, don'tcha Knerys
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Post by Knerys on Nov 9, 2014 23:16:48 GMT -5
Sorry. Nothing personal. But you really should.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 9, 2014 23:22:00 GMT -5
The closest film imax playing it is 8 hours away...
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Post by Knerys on Nov 9, 2014 23:29:09 GMT -5
Well. Clearly you need to move.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 9, 2014 23:29:17 GMT -5
Close enough.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 9, 2014 23:35:25 GMT -5
I need someone to explain the ending to me. It was a little confusing, but I think I understand. So internal affairs was setting him up the whole time?
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 9, 2014 23:51:06 GMT -5
No no no. The mafia had a mole in the sting operation and he had to tell Jefferson about his mother's peaches farm! Do you understand that, or do I have to draw you a MAP!?
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 10, 2014 0:33:50 GMT -5
I was okay with the ending til the teletubbies showed up naked
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 10, 2014 0:46:55 GMT -5
When are the Teletubbies not naked?
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Post by FShuttari on Nov 10, 2014 1:11:01 GMT -5
Exactly.
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