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Post by Wyldstaar on Sept 8, 2020 22:18:13 GMT -5
The ads will always be cringy no matter what product. The only decent one was that M&M one that played out like a movie trailer until it became an ad for silencing your cell phone. Then some contract changed or expired and they hastily re-edited it so that it's just an M&M ad and now it's even cringier than the rest, because they couldn't just let the commercial die and make a new ad. So far Olivia Wilde hasn't presented any minute long, Coke ads posing as student films though, so that's a plus. If you move somewhere that has an Alamo, you won't have to put up with that nonsense anymore. The only ads they play are goofy retro ads. When I went to see The New Mutants, they were playing loads of TV commercials for X-Men action figures and video games from the 90's before the movie. They also played this weird music video full of super-powered kids. They've always got an appropriately themed pre-show program running that starts 30 minutes before the movie. It may sound absurd to move just so you can have a good movie theater nearby, but ask yourself what your priorities truly are. Is your local AMC going to screen Werewolf "starring" Joe Estevez? Not bloody likely. |
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Post by docstop on Sept 9, 2020 20:08:05 GMT -5
DraculaReally appreciate your earlier posted thoughts, Drac about seeing Tenet. I have been chomping at the bit, so to speak, as well to see a film in theatre. I looked back and my last in theater presence was the film 1917. There is a lot to consider and I dont know what state you reside in, here in Ontario, it's very slowly building again, the return to school for many is going to drop the match on it all over again here. Most of the new cases are based in Toronto area and southern Ontario, Windsor but just today we had an older lady in the neighboring town pass away from it. I want to punch out the people who flout that there is a 99% recovery rate from it. It's so easy to say that when just using number and not the names of those who have died and those who are now left behind. Anyway, I got off track there. I have a young family of 4 children, youngest being a 7 month old and now reading through your post, I dont know if I will enjoy the movie or if I'm still in love with it in my mind and when there, I will just think about getting it. The odds here are decent but there is always doubt... I overanalyze things but that being the case, there is a real concern that this thing will take off once again but before the health authorities say we need to quarantine.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Sept 18, 2020 18:35:17 GMT -5
Empire has been playing at the dollar theater since July and the Regal since it reopened. What the fuck is this noise?
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Post by Dracula on Sept 18, 2020 18:46:55 GMT -5
Empire has been playing at the dollar theater since July and the Regal since it reopened. What the fuck is this noise? Might explain why that's the one they've been ready to go with DCPs of instead of New Hope or Return of the Jedi (which I haven't seen anyone showing) |
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Post by docstop on Sept 19, 2020 14:29:10 GMT -5
So I heard Mulan made some exorbitant amount of money through PVOD on Disney+, like 30% of all US households with kids watched it and they made $236 mil up to Sept 12, in the US alone.
Is this it? Is this the official start of theaters shutting down for good???
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Post by 1godzillafan on Sept 19, 2020 14:32:30 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 19, 2020 14:34:31 GMT -5
So I heard Mulan made some exorbitant amount of money through PVOD on Disney+, like 30% of all US households with kids watched it and they made $236 mil up to Sept 12, in the US alone. Is this it? Is this the official start of theaters shutting down for good??? IDK, even if that number is true it's still half of what Beauty and the Beast made in regular theaters |
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Post by Neverending on Sept 19, 2020 16:04:05 GMT -5
Is this the official start of theaters shutting down for good??? Theatres will shut down — but not cause of Mulan. |
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Post by docstop on Sept 19, 2020 17:14:00 GMT -5
So I heard Mulan made some exorbitant amount of money through PVOD on Disney+, like 30% of all US households with kids watched it and they made $236 mil up to Sept 12, in the US alone. Is this it? Is this the official start of theaters shutting down for good??? IDK, even if that number is true it's still half of what Beauty and the Beast made in regular theaters Its estimates, but if its $236 mil just from the US, you'd have to think there will be huge numbers in China too, not accounting other international earnings. |
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Post by docstop on Sept 19, 2020 17:16:17 GMT -5
Is this the official start of theaters shutting down for good??? Theatres will shut down — but not cause of Mulan. It would be a combination of things, no audience and making mega bucks on VOD will conspire to do that. I hate the idea of no theatee experience. Its been my go to for years. Home during a pandemic is fine but being in a theater watching a great movie for the first time, is an experience that can't be beat. |
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Post by Dracula on Sept 19, 2020 17:27:13 GMT -5
IDK, even if that number is true it's still half of what Beauty and the Beast made in regular theaters Its estimates, but if its $236 mil just from the US, you'd have to think there will be huge numbers in China too, not accounting other international earnings. It's only in theaters in China... and it's by all accounts flopping there. Apparently trying to sell period war films to China is like trying to sell ice to Eskimos. |
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Post by Neverending on Sept 19, 2020 17:39:35 GMT -5
Its estimates, but if its $236 mil just from the US, you'd have to think there will be huge numbers in China too, not accounting other international earnings. It's only in theaters in China... and it's by all accounts flopping there. Apparently trying to sell period war films to China is like trying to sell ice to Eskimos. The Chinese were offended that Mulan was turned into a Mary Sue. Watch this video |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Sept 19, 2020 17:41:12 GMT -5
It's only in theaters in China... and it's by all accounts flopping there. Apparently trying to sell period war films to China is like trying to sell ice to Eskimos. The Chinese were offended that Mulan was turned into a Mary Sue. I mean...it's a valid point. |
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Post by 1godzillafan on Sept 19, 2020 17:41:25 GMT -5
Yup, it's pretty official that China rejected this movie.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 19, 2020 17:46:29 GMT -5
Theatres will shut down — but not cause of Mulan. It would be a combination of things, no audience and making mega bucks on VOD will conspire to do that. I hate the idea of no theatee experience. Its been my go to for years. Home during a pandemic is fine but being in a theater watching a great movie for the first time, is an experience that can't be beat. Long story short is that Warner Bros screwed over theatres. Fanible can vouch for this. Opening Tenet is fine. It eases people back into cinemas. But that was never the movie that was gonna “rescue” the industry. No matter what Nolan says. Wonder Woman is what everyone was counting on. But then WB moves WW to Christmas. Meanwhile, rival studios are looking at Tenet’s box office and thinking, “... yeah... we ain’t releasing movies right now.” So WB had theatres rush to open, only to be left with nothing to show. That’s the nail in the coffin. I’m not saying cinema is dead. The AMC’s and the Regal’s will find a way to survive but at a much smaller scale — and all the other theatres are at the mercy of their community. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Sept 19, 2020 20:26:16 GMT -5
Of the six Alamo Drafthouse theaters in D/FW, all but two of them have been temporarily closed. The only two remaining open are of course the two that are the farthest away from me.
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Post by docstop on Sept 20, 2020 8:08:58 GMT -5
Its estimates, but if its $236 mil just from the US, you'd have to think there will be huge numbers in China too, not accounting other international earnings. It's only in theaters in China... and it's by all accounts flopping there. Apparently trying to sell period war films to China is like trying to sell ice to Eskimos. That's really interesting that China is rejecting Mulan. I need to watch that video that got posted too. Here I was thinking it would get eaten up by them. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Sept 20, 2020 10:38:06 GMT -5
It's only in theaters in China... and it's by all accounts flopping there. Apparently trying to sell period war films to China is like trying to sell ice to Eskimos. That's really interesting that China is rejecting Mulan. I need to watch that video that got posted too. Here I was thinking it would get eaten up by them. If this were ten or fifteen years ago, it probably would have. The Chinese film industry of today produces movies that the populace is actually interested in, so they don't rely on Hollywood as much as they used to. It's less obvious to those of us in the West, since their movies don't usually get imported or get limited distribution when they do. |
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Post by Neverending on Sept 20, 2020 11:39:57 GMT -5
That's really interesting that China is rejecting Mulan. I need to watch that video that got posted too. Here I was thinking it would get eaten up by them. If this were ten or fifteen years ago, it probably would have. The Chinese film industry of today produces movies that the populace is actually interested in, so they don't rely on Hollywood as much as they used to. It's less obvious to those of us in the West, since their movies don't usually get imported or get limited distribution when they do. The Eight Hundred is like $30 million away from becoming the highest grossing movie of 2020. If Hollywood releases nothing after Tenet (meaning Black Widow, James Bond & Wonder Woman move to 2021), this will be the first time China is #1 at the box office. |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Sept 20, 2020 13:28:30 GMT -5
If this were ten or fifteen years ago, it probably would have. The Chinese film industry of today produces movies that the populace is actually interested in, so they don't rely on Hollywood as much as they used to. It's less obvious to those of us in the West, since their movies don't usually get imported or get limited distribution when they do. The Eight Hundred is like $30 million away from becoming the highest grossing movie of 2020. If Hollywood releases nothing after Tenet (meaning Black Widow, James Bond & Wonder Woman move to 2021), this will be the first time China is #1 at the box office. True, but I suspect that most world records that occurred in 2020 are going to wind up with an asterisk next to them in the record books. |
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Post by Neverending on Sept 20, 2020 14:44:42 GMT -5
I suspect that most world records that occurred in 2020 are going to wind up with an asterisk next to them in the record books. Whatever happened to Chris Nolan "rescuing" cinema? Was coronavirus an elaborate scheme by the Chinese to rig the system? Put your tin foil hat on, sir. |
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Post by Dracula on Sept 20, 2020 14:49:29 GMT -5
I suspect that most world records that occurred in 2020 are going to wind up with an asterisk next to them in the record books. Whatever happened to Chris Nolan "rescuing" cinema? Was coronavirus an elaborate scheme by the Chinese to rig the system? Put your tin foil hat on, sir. When he dreamed that up he was presumably assuming (wrongly) that the United States would get its shit together and get the virus under control like the rest of the world did and that Tenet would be ready to go once that happened... then it didn't happen. He is still basically saving cinema in the rest of the world, so there's that. |
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Post by Neverending on Sept 20, 2020 15:28:13 GMT -5
When he dreamed that up he was presumably assuming (wrongly) that the United States would get its shit together and get the virus under control like the rest of the world did By July, when the movie was originally gonna be released, it was obvious that wasn't gonna be the case but he insisted it get released anyway. $250 million worldwide is nothing to sneeze at, but studios aren't gonna release a potential billion dollar grossing film during a pandemic. Right now, there's nothing to follow up Tenet and that's a problem. Tenet isn't the crowdpleaser that Nolan thinks it is and it's not gonna keep the lights on until a studio decides to release a blockbuster. Theatres that experienced an initial boost from Tenet are already tackling tumbleweeds. Why? Because the hardcore fans showed up on day one but the word of mouth wasn't strong enough to motivate the casual moviegoers. It's like 1godzillafan said, Tenet isn't a movie I'd recommend leaving quarantine for. |
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