NFL Thread 2014-2015

yup - it would have been a stomping anyway

I can see this being a bigger deal if the game had been closer. If they need to be fined, then fine them. But, I hope this doesn't call into question the legitimacy of the win. Under, over, or regularly inflated footballs don't create the difference in that score.

Meh, brush it off like we always do

I don't know that anybody believes that. The Seahawks played their worst game in the last two years, and still managed to win. You're playing hypotheticals by throwing Dallas in there instead of Green Bay, but what if Seattle had played like they normally do? Then I don't think it would have been close regardless of who they're playing.

It's unfortunate, but Seattle really is just the best team in the NFC again this year, and probably the entire league. Hopefully the Patriots win, but I'm not counting on it.

I think to a point, yeah. But they weren't playing well either, they just happened to have the lead. Seattle was turning the ball over left and right, but it's not like the Packers were doing anything with any of those extra series:

Interception #1: field goal
Fumble on kickoff: field goal
Interception #2: Rodgers threw an interception
Interception #3: punt
Interception #4: punt

It's a tough, hard fought loss when you can look at one or two mistakes that cost a team the game. But when there are literally 10-12 plays that, if any one of them went differently, would have changed the outcome? Just terrible football. I mean, I was extremely frustrated by the game, I can't even imagine what an actual Packer fan was feeling. As much as I hate Seattle, and as much as even I was cheering for Green Bay, they didn't deserve to win the game. You could argue that Seattle didn't either, but somebody has to.

I'm going to completely disagree with you that Green Bay didn't deserve to win that game. Name a single analyst or commentator that gave them the light of day before Sunday. They all expected Seattle to just waltz right other them on their way to Arizona. So Seattle's defense remembered there was a game going on, but Aaron and Co. game managed well enough to knock them back 16-0 and maintain a lead for 55 minutes of play AND orchestrated a last minute drive to send it into over time.

No one-NO ONE- gave Green Bay a snowball's chance in Hell and they almost yanked the rug out from under Seattle. Yeah it fucking hurts. 55 minutes against a proverbial Goliath just to trip on a stone in the last 5 minutes. Green Bay deserved it as much as anyone.

Why does that mean they deserved to win? Because they didn't get waltzed over? That's good, they shouldn't have been. This was the NFC championship, I'd like to think it would be a competitive game rather than the blowout we saw in Foxborough.

I understand that you wanted them to win, I did too. But what you wrote above is certainly not a reason that they deserved a win. Both defenses played well, Seattle's surged ahead in the final five minutes. So did their offense. So despite the fact that Green Bay completely fell apart and imploded, they deserved a win? I disagree.

Now, I will admit that the overtime rules are absolute bullshit and I've been saying for years that both teams should receive at least one attempt to score or tie. It's ridiculous that a game that hard fought came down to a coin toss and one drive. But that still doesn't mean Green Bay deserved the W.

If Seattle doesn't recover that onside kick, which was a hell of a lucky break, would you still say neither team deserved to win?

Green Bay deserved to win because they came in and made a grand show of it when very little was expected.

Seattle deserved to win because they rallied at took advantage when it counted.

So yeah I'll agree to disagree.

The Kings of Gamesmanship.

Go Hawks. Actually... can both teams lose?

That's how I felt during that Green Bay/Dallas playoff game.  Didn't know which one I wanted to lose more but at least it worked out in the end.