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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 13, 2015 11:36:43 GMT -5
I think Bridge on the River Kwai is an absolute must. It's one of the most famous films ever and widely considered a masterpiece.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 13, 2015 13:19:20 GMT -5
Trust me, I love that film and I'm a huge fan of David Lean, but after going back and forth I think the other films brought more advancements or influences overall. I'd say it's a better film overall than say, "12 Angry Men", but in terms of overall importance I'm not so sure. It's certainly the best of the '50s epics and set the stage for Lean to come out with "Lawrence of Arabia" 5 years later, so you can make a great argument either way. Like I said, this is probably the toughest year I've weighed in on, I left out films that absolute landmarks of cinema, and I feel dirty doing it.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 13, 2015 13:27:36 GMT -5
Trust me, I love that film and I'm a huge fan of David Lean, but after going back and forth I think the other films brought more advancements or influences overall. I'd say it's a better film overall than say, "12 Angry Men", but in terms of overall importance I'm not so sure. It's certainly the best of the '50s epics and set the stage for Lean to come out with "Lawrence of Arabia" 5 years later, so you can make a great argument either way. Like I said, this is probably the toughest year I've weighed in on, I left out films that absolute landmarks of cinema, and I feel dirty doing it. It is a very tough year and I also get why you wouldn't drop 12 Angry Men for this year, as it is essential. For me, the essentials for 57 (as far as importance is concerned anyway) are Bridge, 12 Angry Men, and Seventh Seal. |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 13, 2015 13:43:13 GMT -5
Yeah, it's tough, I mean we literally are comparing classics to classics, so the more opinions we get on this year the better. Hopefully a lot of people chime in because this is a good debate.
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 13, 2015 14:35:41 GMT -5
Yeah, its tough. 7th seal for sure, and 12 angry men. Bridge is the tough one, but I'd like to see it in.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 13, 2015 14:43:09 GMT -5
What are your other 2?
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Post by Dracula on Apr 13, 2015 20:11:42 GMT -5
Bridge on the River Kwai, The
Seventh Seal, The
12 Angry Men
Wild Strawberries
Elevator to the Gallows
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 13, 2015 21:48:52 GMT -5
Bridge on the River Kwai, The Seventh Seal, The 12 Angry Men Wild Strawberries Elevator to the Gallows IMDB has Elevator to the Gallows as being 1958. However I applaud you for including Bridge. |
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Post by Dracula on Apr 14, 2015 6:23:19 GMT -5
IMDB has Elevator to the Gallows as being 1958. Crap, replace it with Sweet Smell However I applaud you for including Bridge. Who in their right mind wouldn't? |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 14, 2015 13:10:18 GMT -5
I've thought about it some more, and I'm going to switch "Paths of Glory" out for "The Bridge on the River Kwai", it's a slightly better film and I think carries a stronger anti-war message overall, plus features the iconic whistling sequence.
So my new list will be:
The Bridge on the River Kwai
12 Angry Men
Wild Strawberries
The Seventh Seal
Sweet Smell of Success
But this year is still tough as hell to settle on!
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 14, 2015 19:39:10 GMT -5
What is sweet smell of success, and why is it more important that paths of glory?
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 14, 2015 21:32:15 GMT -5
Bridge on the river kwai
12 angry men
Seventh seal
Paths of glory
Wild strawberries
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Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2015 22:05:48 GMT -5
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 15, 2015 8:35:19 GMT -5
Stop replying with videos!!!
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 15, 2015 9:56:27 GMT -5
What is sweet smell of success, and why is it more important that paths of glory? It's an extremely well-written semi-film noir about a ruthless Broadway critic. It's easily one of the best screenplays of all time and the cinematography is staggering in depicting a very shadowy portrait of 1950s New York and specifically Broadway. And Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis are excellent. The story heats up when Curtis starts to get involved with Lancaster's sister. Excellent movie. It's apples to oranges between that and "Paths of Glory", but I think in this case "Sweet Smell of Success" should be on here because it has more to fall back on. Plus, Kubrick will have plenty on here if he doesn't already (he should anyways, "Barry Lyndon" all the way!) so unfortunately I'm going to have it off my list. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 15, 2015 10:00:34 GMT -5
Okay, so I now understand why you personally think its great. But does taht extend to a notable place in film history? I mean, it might, i'm just wondering.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 15, 2015 10:14:08 GMT -5
Well, yeah, that's my personal opinion but it's ranked on Time's Top 100 films (it should be on AFI's list, no idea why it isn't) and on the Top 1,000 list of They Shoot Pictures Don't They it's ranked 184. On that same list "Paths of Glory" is at 206. I just recently watched the film, but I've been well aware of it being one of the best American films ever and easily one of the best of the decade.
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 15, 2015 10:28:03 GMT -5
Cool.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 15, 2015 10:36:31 GMT -5
I'm still sticking with Paths of Glory, but if I have to drop something from my list that's what I would drop, and Sweet Smell seems a good choice.
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 19, 2015 7:49:06 GMT -5
Okay these are out icks for the year:
The Bridge on the River Kwai
12 Angry Men
The Seventh Seal
Wild Strawberries
Sweet Smell of Success
Next year: 1979
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Post by Dracula on Apr 19, 2015 8:35:41 GMT -5
Apocalypse Now
Alien
Manhattan
Mad Max
Monty Python's Life of Brian
Honorable Mentions:
Marriage of Maria Braun, The
Stalker
Real Life
China Syndrome, The
Kramer vs. Kramer
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Norma Rae
All That Jazz
Warriors, The
Hell of a year
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 19, 2015 10:58:18 GMT -5
1. Apocalypse Now: A totally unique masterpiece.
2. Alien: One of the most iconic creature designs in film and a major title for both Horror and Science-Fiction.
3. Manhattan: One of Woody Allen's undisputed classics with some iconic Gordon Willis cinematography.
4. Monty Python's Life of Brian: I'd argue this is the best of the Python films. More importantly it's religious satire is really bold and still rings true.
5. Kramer vs. Kramer: Captures the shift away from traditional parental roles occurring at the time and it's portrait of divorce and the effect on children is still very relevant.
Honourable Mentions:
Mad Max: Certainly important, but The Road Warrior is the real game changer of the series and we have that already.
The Warriors: "Come out and playyyyy."
Nosferatu: Seems a more artistic and thoughtful remake.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Brought Trek back but, comparable to Mad Max, it's the sequel that really matters.
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 19, 2015 11:10:22 GMT -5
Apocalypse Now
Alien
Manhattan
The Jerk - one of the most essential comedies
Kramer vs Kramer
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Post by IanTheCool on Apr 19, 2015 12:19:09 GMT -5
I'd say the Warriors may need a spot.
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