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Post by Neverending on Nov 28, 2014 18:38:22 GMT -5
You two are silly. Last Tango created an entire genre in America. Erotic movies did not exist in America before 1973. Especially with the Hays Code. EDIT And please do not use PORN as an example of an erotic movie because I will slap you. |
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Post by Dracula on Nov 28, 2014 19:18:01 GMT -5
Badlands, although if I'd be open to adding Last Tango if it was replacing American Graffiti.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 30, 2014 1:10:19 GMT -5
Anyone else?
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 30, 2014 15:03:20 GMT -5
I'm changing my vote to Last Tango in Paris.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 30, 2014 15:50:48 GMT -5
I'm changing my vote to Last Tango in Paris. Hug me, brother. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 30, 2014 17:11:33 GMT -5
Alright then:
The Exorcist
Enter the Dragon
American Graffiti
Mean Streets
Last Tango in Paris
Next year:1963
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Post by Dracula on Nov 30, 2014 17:34:34 GMT -5
I'm changing my vote to Last Tango in Paris. Et tu Cooper? For 1963 8 1/2 (No Brainer) The Birds (Almost like a proto-zombie film) The Great Escape (An enduring action/adventure classic) The Haunting (The original minimalist haunted house film) Jason and the Argonauts (The most famous creature effects movie that isn't King Kong or Godzilla) |
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 30, 2014 17:36:19 GMT -5
I was just thinking of those, except I had Nutty Professor instead of Jason.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 30, 2014 17:43:01 GMT -5
1. 8 1/2: One of Fellini's best and a film that speaks to virtually all filmmakers.
2. The Great Escape: Iconic prison break film with an awesome cast.
3. The Birds: The last noteworthy film from the great Alfred Hitchcock and it seems to have had a pretty tangible impact on horror moving forward.
4. The Leopard: Luchino Visconti's most praised and celebrated work.
5. High and Low: Great Kurosawa film that seems to have impacted future procedurals, and its blending of different genres is pretty progressive.
Honourable Mentions:
From Russia with Love: My favourite Bond film, but it's not as important as many of the others.
The Pink Panther: Launched a franchise and a memorable cartoon, but the film itself is pretty forgettable outside of a good score.
The Haunting: I love this movie, but it's a footnote.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 30, 2014 17:46:17 GMT -5
I'm changing my vote to Last Tango in Paris. Et tu Cooper? Last Tango seemed Bertolucci's best shot of making the list, whereas Malick already has Tree of Life in there and The Thin Red Line will likely be included as well. That, and Last Tango seemed to have had a more overt effect, compared to Badlands' more subtle influence in future films. |
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 30, 2014 17:53:35 GMT -5
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World: it's one of the first ensemble comedies, it's endlessly referenced and parodied, Phil Silver, Sid Caesar, and Jonathan Winters are hilarious in it, and it's generally perceived as one of the greatest comedies of all time.
The Birds
8 1/2
The Great Escape
Jason and the Argonauts
This list without Mad Mad Mad Mad World is sheer lunacy.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 30, 2014 21:25:59 GMT -5
 This list without Mad Mad Mad Mad World is sheer lunacy. You're preaching to the choir, but don't forget that the current slate of personalities at CS! are not fans of comedy. It's gonna be an uphill battle. I understand why MovieBuff is reluctant to participate in this thread. And many others too. What exactly constitutes an important movie and WHY are we reducing the list to only 5 movies? Just to satisfy Dracula's thirst for petty arguments? HERE ARE ALL THE MOVIES FROM 1963 THAT ARE IMPORTANT:8 1/2 - It's an influential Italian movie. BEACH PARTY - True. It's campy and "outdated" but it set the stage for what teen movies would become. THE BIRDS - Alfred Hitchcock's last successful movie. BLACK SABBATH - It may not have survived the test of time, but its influence in the horror genre is undeniable. BYE BYE BIRDIE - It's one of the more popular movies among musical-theater fans. CHARADE - "The Best Hitchcock movie that Hitchcock never made." CLEOPATRA - Where do I begin...? FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - It is widely considered one of the best James Bond movies. THE GIRL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH - The first giallo movie. THE GREAT ESCAPE - Iconic. THE HAUNTING - It's a groundbreaking horror movie. HUD - It features one of the finest Paul Newman performances. IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD - thebtskink already made the case for it. JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS - It's one of the more popular and influential Ray Harryhausen movies. LILIES OF THE FIELD - For historical reasons, this movie has to be preserved. THE NUTTY PROFESSOR - It's influential among comedy circles. THE PINK PANTHER - Where do I begin...? THE SWORD IN THE STONE - Every child's introduction to the King Arthur legend. Also... are we ever gonna acknowledge Roger Corman? There's at least two Corman movies from 1963 worth mentioning: THE RAVEN and X: THE MAN WITH THE X-RAY EYES. I feel like both movies have had some influence. Especially the latter. But anyway... I'm speaking to deaf ears. So... HERE'S MY FIVE SELECTIONS:8 1/2 From Russia With Love The Great Escape It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World The Sword In The Stone |
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Post by iverdawg on Nov 30, 2014 21:27:33 GMT -5
I'd say Diabolique is probably the best Hitchcock movie he never made, but I'll vouch for Charade cause I love that movie, as well as Bye Bye Birdie. Ahem:
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Post by Neverending on Nov 30, 2014 21:36:18 GMT -5
I'd say Diabolique is probably the best Hitchcock movie he never made, but I'll vouch for Charade And I would argue that Brian De Palma made the best Hitchcock knock-offs, but Charade is the movie that has the reputation for being the best Hitchcock replicate. |
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 30, 2014 22:31:41 GMT -5
"The film's an intriguing case study because, unlike a handful of modern ensemble comedies, there really aren’t any heroes. This is not a sartorial display of high-class exploits and slick getaways; these are over a dozen stars in a race to the bottom. Stars of today play self-deprecating roles, but it’s jarring to see so many of them do so together without a dripping sense of self-awareness or camera-winking. Aside from the film's final shot, Kramer and screenwriters William and Tania Rose make it clear that these laughs are being directed at the characters instead of being shared with them. If there was a sense of these performers playing off their particular persona, time has removed some of that awareness, leaving only the idea that these are the stars of their day, all trying to out-weasel one another. Perhaps that’s why box office numbers for the film ended up skyrocketing, propelling Stanley Kramer’s film into the list of the biggest hits of the decade. Never before had so many stars assembled in one project playing regular civilians where the average viewer could claim moral superiority over most, if not all of the characters they were portraying. Instead of seeing stars inserted into holiday-themed odes to the interconnectedness of everyday life, “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World” offered that same feeling of kinship as a nice side dish to its escapist laughs" www.indiewire.com/article/its-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world-the-big-name-ensemble-comedy-that-still-sets-the-standard |
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Post by Knerys on Nov 30, 2014 22:39:45 GMT -5
8 1/2 (No Brainer) The Birds (Almost like a proto-zombie film) The Great Escape (An enduring action/adventure classic) The Haunting (The original minimalist haunted house film) Jason and the Argonauts (The most famous creature effects movie that isn't King Kong or Godzilla) Yeah...this. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 22:40:57 GMT -5
Can we just vote for Jason and the Argonauts five times?
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Post by Knerys on Nov 30, 2014 22:42:40 GMT -5
Ah crap forgot about Sword in the Stone....
Take out The Birds for Sword in the Stone.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 30, 2014 23:15:30 GMT -5
"The film's an intriguing case study because, unlike a handful of modern ensemble comedies, there really aren’t any heroes. This is not a sartorial display of high-class exploits and slick getaways; these are over a dozen stars in a race to the bottom. Stars of today play self-deprecating roles, but it’s jarring to see so many of them do so together without a dripping sense of self-awareness or camera-winking. Aside from the film's final shot, Kramer and screenwriters William and Tania Rose make it clear that these laughs are being directed at the characters instead of being shared with them. If there was a sense of these performers playing off their particular persona, time has removed some of that awareness, leaving only the idea that these are the stars of their day, all trying to out-weasel one another. Perhaps that’s why box office numbers for the film ended up skyrocketing, propelling Stanley Kramer’s film into the list of the biggest hits of the decade. Never before had so many stars assembled in one project playing regular civilians where the average viewer could claim moral superiority over most, if not all of the characters they were portraying. Instead of seeing stars inserted into holiday-themed odes to the interconnectedness of everyday life, “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World” offered that same feeling of kinship as a nice side dish to its escapist laughs" www.indiewire.com/article/its-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world-the-big-name-ensemble-comedy-that-still-sets-the-standardNot even IndieWire could convince Dracula to acknowledge the movie. 8 1/2 (No Brainer) The Birds (Almost like a proto-zombie film) The Great Escape (An enduring action/adventure classic) The Haunting (The original minimalist haunted house film) Jason and the Argonauts (The most famous creature effects movie that isn't King Kong or Godzilla) Yeah...this.  Ah crap forgot about Sword in the Stone.... Take out The Birds for Sword in the Stone.  |
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Post by Dracula on Dec 1, 2014 0:16:14 GMT -5
What is the argument for Sword in the Stone? I was always under the impression that it was third tier Disney.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 1, 2014 2:04:22 GMT -5
What is the argument for Sword in the Stone? I was always under the impression that it was third tier Disney. If we were ranking Disney movies, it would be middle of the road, but that's not the debate we're having here. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 1, 2014 11:11:28 GMT -5
Okay, so how is it important?
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 1, 2014 11:46:54 GMT -5
Not "Charade" please, that movie barely scraped by for me it wasn't as good as advertised. If the ending wasn't so saving it would be a mediocre 6, pretty disappointingly average.
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 1, 2014 12:54:21 GMT -5
A quick glance at YouTube has Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, and Jonathan Landis all citing Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World as an influence.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 1, 2014 13:07:21 GMT -5
Recently work as a fill in board op for show modeled on Fellini's life called Six Passionate Women. They were even able to use the music from 8 1/2 in the play.
As for Sword in the Stone, ask anyone and 9 times out of 10 they'll probably tell you this is their first introduction to the Arthurian legends. Largely more thoughtful and introspective than other Disney fair. It's one of my top 5 favorite Dinsey animated classics.
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