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Post by Dracula on Nov 3, 2014 18:22:39 GMT -5
My personal rule of thumb is year of release in the film's country of origin. By that logic then Spirited Away should count. It was released in Japan in 2001. Before we move forward, I think we need to establish which movies count and which don't. Memento, for example, is another one is dispute. It did the festival circuit in 2000 but wasn't released theatrically till 2001. I don't think the festival circuit should count for jack shit, otherwise I think it's just best to just decide these these things on a case by case basis.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 3, 2014 19:17:02 GMT -5
Festival circuits dont count. Its the release.
As far as foreign releases go... well... i dont know.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 3, 2014 20:16:50 GMT -5
Even major festivals like Sundance, Cannes, and Toronto? Also, make your decision on foeign films.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 3, 2014 22:03:43 GMT -5
I would go with LOTR, Harry Potter, Shrek, Royal Tenenbaums, Donnie Darko.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 3, 2014 22:17:07 GMT -5
That didn't answer my question. Have you decided on the rule for foreign movies? Do we go with release date from their country or North America?
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 3, 2014 22:33:11 GMT -5
I don't think the festival circuit should count for jack shit, otherwise I think it's just best to just decide these these things on a case by case basis. I agree. I think for the most part, we go with the NA release.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 3, 2014 22:36:11 GMT -5
That didn't answer my question. Have you decided on the rule for foreign movies? Do we go with release date from their country or North America? I didn't see a question. I saw an asshole-ish demand.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 3, 2014 22:36:20 GMT -5
Okay.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 4, 2014 9:38:59 GMT -5
I don't think the festival circuit should count for jack shit, otherwise I think it's just best to just decide these these things on a case by case basis. I agree. I think for the most part, we go with the NA release. So are we considering Amores Perros a 2001 release?
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 4, 2014 21:03:59 GMT -5
It was up for the 2000 Oscars, so I would say 2000.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 4, 2014 21:14:56 GMT -5
Okay...good, haha. 2001 is crowded enough.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 5, 2014 7:54:24 GMT -5
Okay, so the big ones that are in are LOTR, Harry Potter, and Shrek. Donnie Darko is getting a lot of love as well, and other contenders are Royal Tenenbaums and Memento, and Y Tu Mama. So what do we think for those last two slots from there four?
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 5, 2014 8:23:35 GMT -5
1. The Royal Tenenbaums 2. Memento 3. Donnie Darko 4. Y Tu Mama Tambien
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Post by Dracula on Nov 5, 2014 9:19:40 GMT -5
1. Memento 2. The Royal Tenenbaums 3. Y Tu Mama 4. Donnie Darko
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Post by Deexan on Nov 5, 2014 10:22:06 GMT -5
1. Donnie Darko 2. Memento 3. The Royal Tenenbaums 4. Y Tu Mama Tambien
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Post by iverdawg on Nov 5, 2014 11:40:59 GMT -5
Mulholland Dr.
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Post by donny on Nov 5, 2014 11:57:47 GMT -5
1.Tenenbaums 2.Memento 3.Y tu 4. Darko
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 5, 2014 20:26:38 GMT -5
Okay, this is what we're going with. LOTR: Fellowship of the ring Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Donnie Darko Memento Royal Tenebaums
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 5, 2014 20:31:09 GMT -5
Next year: 2007
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 5, 2014 21:25:18 GMT -5
Transformers ( ) No Country for Old Men (finally got that Oscar...and I guess some people really like it) There Will Be Blood The Simpsons Movie (again: finally) Juno? (it kind of gave indie comedy a boost...I guess...not a very important year)
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Post by Dracula on Nov 5, 2014 21:50:40 GMT -5
Doing these recent years annoys me. We don't really have perspective on just how impactful the year's best films will be on future generations so we're stuck nominating movies that are either just so good they'll obviously inspire people down the like or declare them "important" just because they made a lot of money and sparked mini-trends.
Knocked Up: Solidified that the Apatow thing was more than just one movie and made Seth Rogen a star. No Country for Old Men: Just Because There Will Be Blood: Ditto Juno: Brought indie quirkfests to the mainstream Beowulf: Motion capture, 3D, kind of feels like a trial run for Avatar
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Post by donny on Nov 5, 2014 22:03:36 GMT -5
There Will Be Blood No Country For Old Men The Bourne Ultimatum Hot Fuzz Sunshine
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 5, 2014 22:19:32 GMT -5
1. No Country for Old Men: Phenomenal film that resonated with a lot of people. The Coens started off the decade a little rough, but this film not only brought them back to prominence, but actually surpassed much of what they'd made previously. It also started their current streak of quality which is still going.
2. There Will Be Blood: This is one of the most passionately loved films in recent memory for a reason. Paul Thomas Anderson's most critically respected film and one of Daniel Day-Lewis' most revered performances.
3. Juno: Both a product of the hipster-quirky-indie type film, and a pioneer for it. The fact that Juno herself grows beyond her initial quirks gives it a maturity which elevates it from its peers. Beyond that, the film was something of a sensation on initial release and is still openly referenced.
4. The Bourne Ultimatum: A very strong finale to one of the decade's strongest trilogies. It also brought a greater legitimacy to the series. The Bourne films were always well-regarded, but it is with Ultimatum that people realized how great these films really are.
5. Superbad: A lot of generations have the teen comedy which defines their own years. For my generation, this is that film. Beyond that, it had Michael Cera when people still liked him, Seth Rogen on the verge of making it big, and Jonah Hill in a breakout role.
Honourable Mentions
Zodiac: Considered, but No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood felt like better examples of critically acclaimed/loved films, and both seemed more important.
Hot Fuzz: Like a lot of Edgar Wright films, this has a lot of fans, and I think it's hilarious, but at the end of the day it's just a very funny comedy, no more.
Sunshine: This has really built an audience in the last few years, but it's still not list-worthy.
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly: Great movie, but not really important.
Eastern Promises: See above.
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford: I fucking love this movie. I think it's a masterpiece and one of my all time favourites. But this is still a film that's very much under the radar.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 5, 2014 22:32:40 GMT -5
Yeah, let's not go any later than 2007...or 2008.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 5, 2014 22:46:47 GMT -5
I think Transformers needs to be considered. It was the defining blockbuster of this era.
As for Bourne, wasn't Supremacy for the one that set that kind of unique style?
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