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Post by Dracula on Oct 31, 2014 12:41:14 GMT -5
Bob Kane actually cited the 1930 remake "The Bat Whispers" as his inspiration, not the 1926 film.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 31, 2014 14:10:18 GMT -5
Bob Kane actually cited the 1930 remake "The Bat Whispers" as his inspiration, not the 1926 film. Without the original, there's no remake. Without the remake, there's no Batman.
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Post by Dracula on Oct 31, 2014 14:14:21 GMT -5
Yeah, but the original was itself an adaptation of a popular Broadway play, one could argue that the remake was more like a second adaptation than a direct remake.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 31, 2014 14:17:47 GMT -5
Yeah, but the original was itself an adaptation of a popular Broadway play, one could argue that the remake was more like a second adaptation than a direct remake. Are you really gonna open this can of worms... Mr... Dracula?
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 31, 2014 18:04:40 GMT -5
Okay, what is our 5th people
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Post by Dracula on Oct 31, 2014 18:41:48 GMT -5
What four do we have locked in?
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 31, 2014 18:44:14 GMT -5
It seems like Faust, the animated one, son of shiek, and don juan
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Post by Dracula on Oct 31, 2014 18:48:38 GMT -5
Flesh and the Devil... or maybe The Black Pirate. I'd probably place both of them above Son of the Shiek, but I'm kind of flying blind here because I haven't actually seen any of them.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 31, 2014 18:53:09 GMT -5
Okay, what is our 5th people PG Cooper backed me up on Batman.
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Post by Jibbs on Oct 31, 2014 20:23:29 GMT -5
No.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 1, 2014 9:22:55 GMT -5
But then Drac made a strong counter argument.
Okay, we gotta get off this year. Let me just look back at what everyone said...
OKay, we need one more person to speak up her: Flesh and the devil, black pirate, or the bat.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 1, 2014 9:46:04 GMT -5
I'll vote The Black Pirate for the early colour photography.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 1, 2014 9:51:19 GMT -5
Thanks PG, we're moving on!
Next year: 1992
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 1, 2014 10:18:22 GMT -5
1. Unforgiven: The film that elevated Clint Eastwood and arguably still his best film. It's an amazing deconstruction of the Western while simultaneously excelling as one.
2. Malcolm X: Malcolm X is one of the most important figures of the 20th century and this film brings that sense of importance. This is one of Spike Lee's more restrained films stylistically, but he doesn't allow this to become a dry and dull biopic. This has a lot of energy, and Lee isn't afraid to push boundaries.
3. Reservoir Dogs: It isn't the phenomenon that Pulp Fiction would be two years later, but Reservoir Dogs is still a very important and influential film which marked the arrival of one of the next great filmmakers with a bang.
4. Wayne's World: Very popular comedy that has maintained its audience over the years. These days its probably more well-loved than Myers' Austin Powers series. It also added some new phrases into pop-culture, so that's neat.
5. Batman Returns: Tim Burton pushed the darkness far with Batman Returns, too far in fact. The parental backlash this got led to the series being a lot more light, and "fun for the whole family" designed. It wasn't until Batman Begins that Batman got to be dark and brooding again. You could even argue this encouraged more superhero films to take a lighter, less complex approach. It's not exactly the greatest of legacies, but it definitely made an impact. There's also something to be said for the film's passionate fanbase which has developed over the years.
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Aladdin: I'm sure people will fight for this one. It's a good movie, and one of my favourite Disney films of the era, but some of the other Disney Renaissance films seem more important in the grand scheme of things. This one just executes very well.
Dracula: The last grasp at relevance from one of cinema's legends.
The Player: I love this movie, but it seems to unknown to really be called important.
Glengarry Glen Ross: The film seems to have made more of an impact than David Mamet's other works and it features a great mix of actors from different eras, but I don't know if it's quite list worthy. Most of the influence from this film is in the little deals, with the film itself being ignored.
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Post by Dracula on Nov 1, 2014 10:27:41 GMT -5
Unforgiven: The definitive revisionist western Hard Boiled: The definitive John Woo/Hong Kong action film Reservoir Dogs: The beginning of Tarantino and an important player in the 90s indie boom. Malcolm X: A brilliant account of an important American life. Man Bites Dog: An influential mockumentary genre film.
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 1, 2014 10:49:41 GMT -5
Reservoir Dogs (Obviously) Unforgiven (I don't care for it, but some people like westerns) Malcolm X Army of Darkness (I can't go anywhere without hearing references from this)
Aladdin?
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 1, 2014 11:15:12 GMT -5
I would say Dogs and Hard Boiled for sure, probably Unforgiven, Malcolm x and.... I suppose Aladdin, though it seems like one of the least important of the 4 big Disney films at that time.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 1, 2014 11:47:22 GMT -5
What about The Body Guard or Last of the Mohicans?
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Post by thebtskink on Nov 1, 2014 12:10:13 GMT -5
Reservoir Dogs Unforgiven Singles - the definitive grunge movie, captures that aesthetic perfectly Glengarry Glen Ross El Mariachi - shot for $7000 and Rodriguez'S style has been imitated endlessly since.
Are we counting Army of Darkness as 1992 or 1993? US and world releases differ a bit.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 1, 2014 12:37:37 GMT -5
El Mariachi! Forgot about taht.
I have always thought of Army of Darkness as 93.
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Post by iverdawg on Nov 1, 2014 13:15:30 GMT -5
Can't believe I forgot to nominate 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days during 2007. It was in limited released in January 2008 in the U.S., but I saw it in December of 2007, so I've always just considered it an 07 movie.
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Post by IanTheCool on Nov 1, 2014 13:25:52 GMT -5
Thats funny, I just thought of that movie too. Was it a 2006 film?
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Post by iverdawg on Nov 1, 2014 13:30:02 GMT -5
No it was released and screened at Cannes in 2007 when it won the Palme d'Or, but I saw it at a one-week engagement here in L.A. so it could be eligible for the Oscars. It received a proper limited release in January of 2008.
Nevermind, saw we did 2006 and not 2007. All these release date technicalities are screwing with me.
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Post by Neverending on Nov 1, 2014 13:54:04 GMT -5
Neverendings list: Barman Returns Aladdin Home Alone 2 Mighty Ducks American Me True. A League of Their OwnBatman ReturnsEl MariachiMalcolm XReservoir Dogs
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Post by Jibbs on Nov 1, 2014 14:28:07 GMT -5
What about The Body Guard or Last of the Mohicans? I originally had Last of the Mohicans...but then I couldn't help but to get upset at noticing it was another movie with a white man forced into a story about non-white people. Great movie, but it's still about the adopted white kid so I'm having trouble calling it an "important movie."
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