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Post by Jibbs on Apr 27, 2018 16:46:26 GMT -5
Alright, so some of my initial thoughts. -I don't know why people are going OMGOMG over the ending. Clearly, obviously they're going to find a way to undo all of that. They aren't killing Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Nick Fury, Bucky and everyone else who died. I also wouldn't be surprised if they undid Gamora as well. In fact I would bet on it.
-It bothered me at first that Strange gave up the Time Stone so quickly and easily but then I remembered how he looked into the future and witnessed the one possible outcome where they defeat Thanos. That probably was a factor in that outcome which is why he gave it up when Thanos threatened Tony when anyone else would have certainly let him die.
-Ebony Maw (had to look up his name) was a great henchman and I was pretty pumped when Tony took him out.
-Vision sucked in this movie. I hope he stays dead.
-So Spider-Man's suit is essentially Iron Man's now? Minus a few missiles?
-I don't know how people feel one way or the other about it but I really enjoyed Red Skull's reappearance. It makes me wonder if his fate will reflect what happens to Thanos at the end of all this.
-I didn't know what the post-credits scene was all about until someone in the row behind me said 'Captain Marvel!' I know nothing about Captain Marvel but is this supposed to be a massive reveal? I never understood Captain Marvel to be one of the titans (no pun) of the Marvel universe. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. Regardless, it was another post-credits scene that was underwhelming which is par for the course. All in all, Neverending said in the first post that this might be the best movie in the Marvel universe. I think it definitely is. Pumped to see where it all leads to next May.
Given time to think about it, this will sound crazy, but I think they chickened out at the end. For about an hour after this movie I was lost in this haze where I hadn't yet considered that they were going to retcon these deaths - now I'm almost certain they will. But for that time during the movie I was having an experience like I can never remember in a movie. They were going from scene to scene with characters we've come to know and love from many movies, and having us stand on pins and needles for that one sign...either someone feels a little queasy, or they start to turn into dust. I was mouth agape because as soon as I saw the dust I thought "that person is gone from the MCU." But I figured it out, obviously it'll have to do with Doctor Strange. But then something actually kind of bothered me. How great would it be had they REALLY flipped a coin with these characters? Because if they're coming back or not, they did NOT flip a coin. Almost every GotG character is gone, all the Avenger sidekicks are gone along with the "lesser Avengers." How many MAIN Avengers died? Zero. Even if they're coming back after a movie or two, how AMAZING would it be if they weeded out some big players too. They would have to regroup from this mess and get it done in the next one. But nope, they need their stars for Part Two.
Just saying. It was a great scene, but they could have knocked it out of the f-ing PARK and made it the staple of the whole franchise.
As for Gamora, I think we're going to have a horcrux situation. Her soul could very well be in the red infinity stone. Thanos even spoke to her younger self.
As for Captain Marvel, kind of going on what Dooms said, I'm no comics expert, but are we to believe that after trillions are dead, billions on Earth, Nick Fury calling her last second is going to have any meaning whatsoever? Because I think, I THINK, wherever she is, she knows.
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Post by Fanible on Apr 27, 2018 17:09:35 GMT -5
Alright, so some of my initial thoughts. -I don't know why people are going OMGOMG over the ending. Clearly, obviously they're going to find a way to undo all of that. They aren't killing Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Nick Fury, Bucky and everyone else who died. I also wouldn't be surprised if they undid Gamora as well. In fact I would bet on it.
-It bothered me at first that Strange gave up the Time Stone so quickly and easily but then I remembered how he looked into the future and witnessed the one possible outcome where they defeat Thanos. That probably was a factor in that outcome which is why he gave it up when Thanos threatened Tony when anyone else would have certainly let him die.
-Ebony Maw (had to look up his name) was a great henchman and I was pretty pumped when Tony took him out.
-Vision sucked in this movie. I hope he stays dead.
-So Spider-Man's suit is essentially Iron Man's now? Minus a few missiles?
-I don't know how people feel one way or the other about it but I really enjoyed Red Skull's reappearance. It makes me wonder if his fate will reflect what happens to Thanos at the end of all this.
-I didn't know what the post-credits scene was all about until someone in the row behind me said 'Captain Marvel!' I know nothing about Captain Marvel but is this supposed to be a massive reveal? I never understood Captain Marvel to be one of the titans (no pun) of the Marvel universe. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. Regardless, it was another post-credits scene that was underwhelming which is par for the course. All in all, Neverending said in the first post that this might be the best movie in the Marvel universe. I think it definitely is. Pumped to see where it all leads to next May.
Given time to think about it, this will sound crazy, but I think they chickened out at the end. For about an hour after this movie I was lost in this haze where I hadn't yet considered that they were going to retcon these deaths - now I'm almost certain they will. But for that time during the movie I was having an experience like I can never remember in a movie. They were going from scene to scene with characters we've come to know and love from many movies, and having us stand on pins and needles for that one sign...either someone feels a little queasy, or they start to turn into dust. I was mouth agape because as soon as I saw the dust I thought "that person is gone from the MCU." But I figured it out, obviously it'll have to do with Doctor Strange. But then something actually kind of bothered me. How great would it be had they REALLY flipped a coin with these characters? Because if they're coming back or not, they did NOT flip a coin. Almost every GotG character is gone, all the Avenger sidekicks are gone along with the "lesser Avengers." How many MAIN Avengers died? Zero. Even if they're coming back after a movie or two, how AMAZING would it be if they weeded out some big players too. They would have to regroup from this mess and get it done in the next one. But nope, they need their stars for Part Two.
Just saying. It was a great scene, but they could have knocked it out of the f-ing PARK and made it the staple of the whole franchise.
As for Gamora, I think we're going to have a horcrux situation. Her soul could very well be in the red infinity stone. Thanos even spoke to her younger self.
As for Captain Marvel, kind of going on what Dooms said, I'm no comics expert, but are we to believe that after trillions are dead, billions on Earth, Nick Fury calling her last second is going to have any meaning whatsoever? Because I think, I THINK, wherever she is, she knows.
Eh... it's not like Nick Fury knew exactly what was going on, so it's feasible that he might try to get ahold of her. So it served it's purpose to simply alert the audience that he knows who she is and is trying to contact her. It works.
When the deaths first started occurring, I was thinking "Holy shit". Then Black Panther kicked the bucket and the audience gasped. It was kinda after that point that I figured it's not as serious as it appears to be. There's no way they would be letting Peter Parker die (Sony would be pissed), nor all of the Guardians (all died except Rocket, yes?). If anything, they shouldn't have announced a GOTG 3 and Spider-Man 2 yet prior to this movie. That kind of gives it away. Unless some major trickery is afoot, but I doubt it.
Still, it was pretty awesome nonetheless. Tom Holland sold the hell out of that shit. Him and RDJ in that scene was great. |
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Post by Pbar on Apr 27, 2018 18:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by FShuttari on Apr 27, 2018 22:04:26 GMT -5
The Russo Brothers out-Michael Bay'd Michael Bay. To be fair they did that with Avengers 1 the destruction of NY was about the same as Transformers 3 Chicago. Can anyone explain what the planet Thanos was at, at the end of the movie watching the sunset?
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Post by Jibbs on Apr 27, 2018 22:12:30 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what the planet Thanos was at, at the end of the movie watching the sunset?
Is it his Homeworld Titan?
Did he do all that to get his home planet back? Earlier in the movie Gamora asked what he would do if he succeeded. He said some things that included resting and watching a sunset. He won. |
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Post by filmjerk on Apr 27, 2018 23:31:36 GMT -5
This movie was exhilarating and intense. I definitely need to see this again. Hulk was pretty useless, only one scene with him, really? Captain America didn't do much. The trailers made it seem like he was an intricate part of the movie. Thanos was just unstoppable throughout this entire movie, almost seemed unfair lol. Pretty certain the Soul Stone has trapped everyone who disappeared inside it. And was the gauntlet destroyed? Can it not be used anymore? So much to take in man. |
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Post by Pbar on Apr 27, 2018 23:40:46 GMT -5
The Russo Brothers out-Michael Bay'd Michael Bay. To be fair they did that with Avengers 1 the destruction of NY was about the same as Transformers 3 Chicago. Can anyone explain what the planet Thanos was at, at the end of the movie watching the sunset?
Is it his Homeworld Titan?
Did he do all that to get his home planet back? Overload of action is how they Out-Bay Bay. |
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Post by Fanible on Apr 27, 2018 23:52:22 GMT -5
This movie was exhilarating and intense. I definitely need to see this again. Hulk was pretty useless, only one scene with him, really? Captain America didn't do much. The trailers made it seem like he was an intricate part of the movie. Thanos was just unstoppable throughout this entire movie, almost seemed unfair lol. Pretty certain the Soul Stone has trapped everyone who disappeared inside it. And was the gauntlet destroyed? Can it not be used anymore? So much to take in man. Doctor Strange definitely is up to something. Either he has everyone placed somewhere, or like you said, everyone is stuck inside the soul stone. Whatever Strange saw, it depended on the survival of Tony Stark. Needless to say, it's going to be a long year. Thankfully we have other MCU movies to look forward to inbetween, although I feel like Ant-Man and the Wasp might feel a little inconsequential now. Surely it has to be a prequel to the events of Infinity War. We already know that Captain Marvel is going to be a prequel, but obviously a character like CM has more importance. I'm hoping I'm wrong, though, and Ant-Man's story proves to be a key part. Seems odd to try and wedge him in there otherwise. |
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Post by Jibbs on Apr 28, 2018 12:21:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I survived my car ride home.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Apr 28, 2018 15:14:36 GMT -5
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Post by Dracula on Apr 28, 2018 15:39:18 GMT -5
**** out of Five Anyway, my spoiler thoughts are... -So, was this how 80s kids felt coming out of that animated Transformers movie?
-Obviously, this is all going to be undone somehow or other (time stone presumably, or maybe they can just undo everything with a snap of the fingers with the gauntlet) but I still imagine a lot of people were caught off guard. Marvel has not been emphasizing that there's going to be a part 2 in their marketing.
-They did get me with that fake-out that Iron Man was doomed what with the foreshadowing about his girl being worried about him.
-Notice that among the people left alive are every single one of the OG Avengers?
-Expect several think pieces about Gamorah being "fridged" and Black Panther being among the dead. We already know for 100% sure because of leaks that one of them is in Part 2.
-Watching Ant-Man and Captain Marvel is going to be awkward. I assume Ant-Man and Wasp is going to be a prequel of sorts and I know Captain Marvel is set in the 90s, so I get it, but why the hell didn't they just put Ant-Man out first and save this for November or something. Did the marketing projections really suggest that this first week of Summer release date makes that much of a difference?
-There were a few too many "I know the fate of the universe is at stake but I love you too much to do the plainly logical thing" moments. Does Starlord realize that how many people he killed with his temper tantrum, or how many people died because Scarlet Witch can't kill her robo-boyfreind, etc.
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Post by donny on Apr 28, 2018 15:52:44 GMT -5
So initial thoughts are strong. I really liked much of it. One thing you can't really complain much about pacing. For a movie with so many characters and so many side interactions/stories, it runs pretty smoothly and you are fairly invested for much of this movie. It was a quick 2.5 hours for me.
Who knows what will happen in the next one, I certainly don't. There's been much discussion about how much of what we saw in this movie will actually be permanent, but there will always be Infinity War and the events that took place. It was bold, for a marvel film. A very distinct chapter in this MCU saga, and they can't take that away. For better or worse, that's saying something. I tend to think the former.
For some reason, on the way home I just kept thinking to myself, "Eventually, Marvel is going to do a crossover event with Star Wars, aren't we?"
Fuck, I hope that doesn't happen.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Apr 28, 2018 18:38:37 GMT -5
I wanted to see the film for a second time before I gave my thoughts, so here we go. Overall, I do like the movie a lot. There was a surprisingly good balance with most of the characters. I do however, take issue with the opening scene. There is no reason for Thanos and the Obsidian Order to be slaughtering Asgardians just to get the Tesseract. Thanos is portrayed as a true believer in creating a balance to the universe by killing 50% of the population. The Asgardian population has already been decimated by the Dark Elves and Hela. With only Thor surviving, the Asgardian race is effectively extinct. This is not balance. I was particularly impressed by Thanos as the villain. Considering how paper thin he's been represented in previous appearances, combined with the near constant problem with Marvel Villains failing to engage the audience, I had low expectations. Good job, Russo Bros! The Scarlet Witch and Vision managed to really stand out for a change. I've never been particularly impressed with them as characters before, but they really made it work in Infinity War.
The was Doctor Strange was utilized in the film did not impress me, sadly. He went down far too easily against Ebony Maw. Later on against Thanos, he fared poorly due mostly to the fact that Thanos was already far too powerful for even someone of Doctor Strange's prowess to take on when he's had years of experience, which this version of the character lacks. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 28, 2018 18:55:44 GMT -5
The BEST Marvel movie yet! Wow. So, is this what it felt like for people in the 80's coming out of Empire Strikes Back? To quote the film's villain Thanos, everything was "perfectly balanced": the action, the humor, the pacing, the drama (ohh, the drama). Joe and Anthony Russo hit this out of the park. This movie could've easily been a jumbled mess, but the way the script fit everything together made it flow so smoothly, and nearly everyone got a moment to shine. It was also a blast seeing certain characters such as Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Star Lord and Spider-Man interacting with each other. And I have to appreciate the balls on the Russos; they really went there in terms of following up on the stakes. Though as I said in the Death Pool thread, it's obvious that the majority of these "deaths" will be reversed in 4. Basically anyone who's already pretty much been guaranteed another solo movie -- Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, the Guardians (and yes, I'm including Gamora) -- will be resurrected in the next movie. And I agree that this is all part of the one future that Doctor Strange saw that had them winning. He just didn't/couldn't say anything about it. It's all part of the plan. But yeah, this movie was awesome. ****/**** |
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Post by Wyldstaar on Apr 28, 2018 19:26:33 GMT -5
Just an FYI I've stumbled across. The production budget for Avengers: Infinity War is now known- $321.2 million. This number does not include the marketing budget, which is probably in the $100 million range. link |
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 28, 2018 20:02:25 GMT -5
Alright, so how many days need to go by before we can post in this thread without spoiler tags? A week? I think we all know each other well enough that if you're snooping around in this thread a week after the movie has come out and you still haven't seen it you deserve what you get.
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Post by Fanible on Apr 28, 2018 20:02:35 GMT -5
Just an FYI I've stumbled across. The production budget for Avengers: Infinity War is now known- $321.2 million. This number does not include the marketing budget, which is probably in the $100 million range. linkI don't see anywhere in that article that it states that it does not include marketing and the like, which surely it must. It wouldn't add up to any of the other movies listed. It says that Age of Ultron cost around $500 million, for example. AoU had a production budget of about $240-250 million. All the amounts listed are much higher than their corresponding movie production costs. For a comparison, POTC 4 still holds the record for most expensive movie at $380m. On the subject, it's a fair guess that any costs that will be listed are a result of a split between the two Avengers movies, which were probably allotted a combined budget for back-to-back filming. That's the only reason the two films are going to look like they cost less than Age of Ultron, technically speaking. As far as back-to-back movie productions go, the Hobbit films currently hold the record at just over $600 million. |
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Post by Dracula on Apr 28, 2018 20:06:41 GMT -5
Alright, one other thing, and I don't think this is a spoiler. Thanos' philosophy kind of doesn't make any sense. Overpopulation is a problem that certainly makes sense on Earth as we know it, there's only a finite amount of resources and extra people lead to a larger carbon footprint... but when the entire galaxy is at your disposal that seems like less of a problem. There are presumably a whole lot of uninhabited planets in the vastness of the universe that people can be moved to.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 28, 2018 20:13:39 GMT -5
And I agree that this is all part of the one future that Doctor Strange saw that had them winning. He just didn't/couldn't say anything about it. It's all part of the plan. Does he look like a man with a plan? |
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Post by thebtskink on Apr 28, 2018 21:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by Wyldstaar on Apr 28, 2018 21:54:46 GMT -5
Just an FYI I've stumbled across. The production budget for Avengers: Infinity War is now known- $321.2 million. This number does not include the marketing budget, which is probably in the $100 million range. linkI don't see anywhere in that article that it states that it does not include marketing and the like, which surely it must. It wouldn't add up to any of the other movies listed. It says that Age of Ultron cost around $500 million, for example. AoU had a production budget of about $240-250 million. All the amounts listed are much higher than their corresponding movie production costs. For a comparison, POTC 4 still holds the record for most expensive movie at $380m. On the subject, it's a fair guess that any costs that will be listed are a result of a split between the two Avengers movies, which were probably allotted a combined budget for back-to-back filming. That's the only reason the two films are going to look like they cost less than Age of Ultron, technically speaking. As far as back-to-back movie productions go, the Hobbit films currently hold the record at just over $600 million. The very first line in the article states, "The punching power behind Avengers: Infinity War, which hit theaters today, has been revealed in company documents showing that the $321.2 million that Disney spent on shooting the movie..." I suspect you're right, though. I didn't read the entire article, and I should have. I assumed it's accuracy because it was Forbes, and not some fanboy site. |
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Post by filmjerk on Apr 28, 2018 22:18:27 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who nearly yelled out "Oh shit!" when Red Skull appeared |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 28, 2018 22:21:17 GMT -5
And I agree that this is all part of the one future that Doctor Strange saw that had them winning. He just didn't/couldn't say anything about it. It's all part of the plan. Does he look like a man with a plan? More like a dog chasing cars. |
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