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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2018 20:42:48 GMT -5
Blade Runner, as of now, is in my Top 10 even though I didn't love it. Maybe I'm just an old fart like Doomsday, but I'm not in love with 2017 cinema. So a slightly-above-mediocre movie like Blade Runner can slip through the cracks. But hey, The Greatest Showman can always bump it.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2018 20:48:51 GMT -5
I don't know whether to pity you and Doomsday or fear turning into, as you say, another old fart.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2018 20:50:20 GMT -5
I don't know whether to pity you and Doomsday or fear turning into, as you say, another old fart. Grumpiness comes to us all, except to Dracula who was born an old man and is aging in reverse. Give it a few years and he'll be reviewing the Care Bears.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 16, 2018 20:56:05 GMT -5
I don't know whether to pity you and Doomsday or fear turning into, as you say, another old fart. To quote Horace, 'eram quod es. Eris quod sum.' I was what you are. You will become what I am.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2018 20:59:30 GMT -5
I don't know whether to pity you and Doomsday or fear turning into, as you say, another old fart. To quote Horace, 'eram quod es. Eris quod sum.' I was what you are. You will become what I am.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2018 21:00:01 GMT -5
I don't know whether to pity you and Doomsday or fear turning into, as you say, another old fart. To quote Horace, 'eram quod es. Eris quod sum.' I was what you are. You will become what I am. I remember when I was PG Cooper. Those were good times.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 16, 2018 21:08:55 GMT -5
I made my bones in the early 2000s when there were 800 users on the boards, each one of them making endless threads on how Return of the King is the greatest film of all time.
It's almost funny to think about now. There would be threads like 'Best movie of the past 10 years' or 'Best non-b&w movies' and each time #1 would be ROTK. Then I started making 'best of' threads and willfully would leave it out only to have people cuss me out. I didn't do it for any other reason than just being someone who wants to watch the world burn.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2018 21:13:38 GMT -5
I made my bones in the early 2000s when there were 800 users on the boards, each one of them making endless threads on how Return of the King is the greatest film of all time. It's almost funny to think about now. There would be threads like 'Best movie of the past 10 years' or 'Best non-b&w movies' and each time #1 would be ROTK. Then I started making 'best of' threads and willfully would leave it out only to have people cuss me out. I didn't do it for any other reason than just being someone who wants to watch the world burn. I liked Pirates of the Caribbean more than Lord of the Rings. I liked Spider-Man more than Harry Potter. 2000's me was a rebel too.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 16, 2018 21:18:38 GMT -5
Return of the King is the greatest movie ever for a simple ten second scene where a character is lit on fire, runs off down a corridor screaming, and jumps out of the castle, falling five hundred stories. Best laugh I've had in the last twenty years.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 16, 2018 21:49:41 GMT -5
3. BLADE RUNNER 2049Unlike the majority of film enthusiasts, I don't exactly worship at the altar of the first Blade Runner. That's not to say I think it's bad, far from it -- in fact, I finally watched The Final Cut the day before seeing this film and really liked it. But I wasn't exactly frothing at the mouth for a sequel...until Denis Villenueve was announced as director. I firmly believe Villenueve is one of the best working directors today, and with Blade Runner 2049, he continues to prove why. In many respects, I'd say I prefer Blade Runner 2049 to its predecessor. This is a shining example of just how smart big-budget filmmaking can be. Like the first, this film relies more on plot and atmosphere to captivate its audience, and is unafraid to resist the conventional ideas on what a big movie like this should be. It's a big-budget film for adults. Between Villenueve's incredible grasp on tone and atmosphere and cinematographer Roger Deakins' beautiful camerawork, Blade Runner 2049 is almost hypnotically watchable. But the film is equally big in themes and ideas as it is in visual and tonal wonder. It builds upon everything from the first, but also wisely chooses not to answer the important questions left open at the end of that one. Instead, it asks even more questions -- and even more interesting ones, at that. Blade Runner 2049 constantly had me engrossed, despite its nearly three-hour runtime. It also appears to be more on the intellectual side, but it's actually sneakily emotional, too. Any movie that actually gets me to care about a character who's just a hologram deserves credit in my book. And the addition of Ryan Reynolds into this universe clicks into place like that puzzle piece you never thought you'd find, but unexpectedly do. When I walked out of Blade Runner 2049 for the first time, I finally understood why people hold this universe in such high regard.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2018 21:59:31 GMT -5
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 17, 2018 18:34:00 GMT -5
PHANTOMKNIGHT'S TOP TEN OF 2017
10. Get Out 9. Wonder Woman 8. Dunkirk 7. The Disaster Artist 6. The Big Sick 5. The Shape of Water 4. War for the Planet of the Apes 3. Blade Runner 2049 2. THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI
It's always a delight when certain films can come out of nowhere and just floor you in terms of its quality, and such was the case for me with Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. I loved writer/director Martin McDonagh's debut In Bruges and enjoyed his follow-up, Seven Psychopaths, but this is unquestionably his most accomplished work to date. In fact, this film came quite close to de-throning the one that currently sits in the top slot on this list. But even though Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri may only be in the #2 spot, it still touts what I believe to be the year's most brilliantly-constructed screenplay, to the point where I was sitting there anticipating how the next couple of scenes would play out as I was watching it. There's a clear maturity here in terms of McDonagh's material and the way he approaches it. His profanity-laced dialogue still remains intact, but his grip on tone has become extremely impressive. Three Billboards certainly has many elements of (very funny) dark comedy, but it also has just as many incredibly dramatic moments that are just as effective -- if not more so -- than the comedy. And the two never feel like they clash at all. In all honesty, the film consistently surprised me at how fluidly it could transition back and forth between the two tones. There's a multitude of themes that McDonagh's screenplay tackles -- from grief, to guilt, anger, discrimination -- and each one feels dealt with in a very organic and powerful way. Not to mention that McDonagh, as expected, provides his characters with some fantastic dialogue. And just the way he ultimately develops the plot feels very honest and true to how such a story would play out in real life. Frances McDormand absolutely crushes it in a searing performance as the lead character, Mildred Hays, and it really is a testament to her strength as an actor. Mildred may not always be the most likable person, but there's not a decision she makes throughout the course of the film that doesn't feel true to who she is. Sam Rockwell and Woody Harrelson are also stellar in supporting roles, and their respective arcs are another example of Martin McDonagh's storytelling abilities and how great they are. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri is in many ways a fearless film, and fortunately the quality of it in the end supports said fearlessness. And I, for one, look forward to many more viewings.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 17, 2018 18:38:17 GMT -5
lol Did you put that last line in there because of the previous debate?
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 17, 2018 18:45:24 GMT -5
lol Did you put that last line in there because of the previous debate? Partly. But it's still true.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 18, 2018 14:20:32 GMT -5
This shouldn't be a surprise by now. PHANTOMKNIGHT'S TOP TEN OF 2017
10. Get Out 9. Wonder Woman 8. Dunkirk 7. The Disaster Artist 6. The Big Sick 5. The Shape of Water 4. War for the Planet of the Apes 3. Blade Runner 2049 2. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri 1. LOGAN
Logan isn't just the best movie of the year, it's also the best superhero movie since The Dark Knight. Much in the way that that film functions more as a crime epic, Logan functions more as a modern Western. Here, there aren't any end-of-the-world threats to fight off, no colorful costumes and no flashy special effects; just an aging man with metal claws who has to accept his own mortality. The portrait of Wolverine/Logan that we're presented with here is in sharp contrast to the one we've grown accustomed to, but that helps make it be all the more powerful. For the first time in this whole X-Men franchise, we're seeing Logan struggle and on the edge of broken down (at least to this extent), if he's not there already. The film really is a vividly-realized character piece as much as it is a gripping -- and brutally violent -- thriller. Hugh Jackman appropriately gives his best performance as Logan, if not his career, here and the way he hits all the major emotional beats for the character throughout the film is outstanding. Patrick Stewart is also equally magnificent in his supporting role as an even more aged and now mentally unstable Professor X. The father-son dynamic that fully manifests itself between those characters here is also a big part of the heart and soul of this film, and also provides some incredibly powerful moments. But the real revelation here is Daphne Keen as X-23. Keen shows some hugely impressive talent for her young age, especially in a role with some minimal dialogue. Even with some very viscerally violent action scenes throughout, director James Mangold wisely keeps everything feeling intimate, and he and co-writer Scott Frank are able to take many chances with the material that prove hugely rewarding and help separate Logan from today's typical superhero milieu while reminding us what the genre is capable of being. No other film from 2017, especially this one's final ten minutes, affected me quite the way Logan did. Not only would I already call it one of the best superhero movies ever made, it's also one that's going to stay with me for a very long time, superhero genre or not.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 18, 2018 14:59:23 GMT -5
Nice pick for #1. No arguments there.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 18, 2018 17:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by frankyt on Feb 18, 2018 17:52:35 GMT -5
At least it wasn't star wars or the greatest showman.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 18, 2018 17:55:33 GMT -5
At least it wasn't star wars or the greatest showman. Greatest Showman is #1 in his heart.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 18, 2018 18:03:53 GMT -5
Just filling in for you. At least it wasn't star wars or the greatest showman. The Greatest Showman > King Arthur: Legend of the Sword
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Post by frankyt on Feb 21, 2018 0:12:33 GMT -5
Legends never die. Musicals... Well they do.
Crucible cast party > any theater nerd movie starring Hugh Jackman
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 21, 2018 20:02:05 GMT -5
About $156 million and counting for The Greatest Showman would suggest otherwise. Compared to King Arthur's $39 million haul.
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Post by FShuttari on Feb 21, 2018 20:38:26 GMT -5
I’d put Dunkirk lower, and Logan higher
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Post by Neverending on Feb 21, 2018 21:20:43 GMT -5
I’d put Dunkirk lower, and Logan higher Can’t get higher than #1.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 22, 2018 0:28:43 GMT -5
I’d put Dunkirk lower, and Logan higher Can’t get higher than #1. Oh I'll find a way.
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