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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 14, 2018 19:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 14, 2018 20:10:59 GMT -5
The more I think about shape of water, the more Im not sure about it...
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 14, 2018 20:18:49 GMT -5
The more I think about shape of water, the more Im not sure about it... I got my hands on a screener of Shape of Water. I watched half of it before it started skipping and I turned it off. I have another one at the ready but the half I did see, yeeeeah I think people might be overdoing it a bit on this one. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 14, 2018 20:29:05 GMT -5
The more I think about shape of water, the more Im not sure about it... One of the fastest backlashes I've ever seen. |
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Post by frankyt on Feb 15, 2018 11:26:44 GMT -5
It stinks. Another year when the best pic/director will be something I really don't agree with. Zero characterization. No real motivation for the bad guy at all... He's just evil? I guess?
And no one looks at you in real life Sally? Really? Have you gone out in the last 5 years? Like even to go get some eggs. You're just shy, we don't have to settle for monsters.
And that ending? We all agree it went pans style right? Def wasnt what the jenks described.
I think Dracula said it best. It's just a side step for del Toro. Zero evolution from him in the last decade.
Snore. And shit, I wanted to like it.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 15, 2018 11:35:39 GMT -5
It stinks. Another year when the best pic/director will be something I really don't agree with. It's far from clear what will win BP. |
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Post by frankyt on Feb 15, 2018 11:50:14 GMT -5
It's gonna split with three billboards. Book it.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 15, 2018 12:05:24 GMT -5
The misplaced twitter anger is gonna tank 3 Billboards.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 15, 2018 18:32:39 GMT -5
Before I post my next entry, let me just say how fucking ridiculous that Three Billboards backlash is, and further proof that you can't say or do anything these days without getting judged.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 15, 2018 19:51:09 GMT -5
PHANTOMKNIGHT'S TOP TEN OF 2017
10. Get Out 9. Wonder Woman 8. Dunkirk 7. The Disaster Artist 6. The Big Sick 5. The Shape of Water 4. WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES
Fantastic. Gripping. Oppressive. Extremely emotional. And not to mention a satisfying cap to what has to be one of the best modern movie trilogies, and this is coming from a guy who, when Rise was first coming out, thought it looked dumb. Boy, was I wrong. This rebooted series has proven to be so much more than just movies about intelligent apes, as evidenced by the fact of just how goddamn emotionally involving this film is. I have to give director Matt Reeves credit for sticking to his guns and making the tone for War as oppressive as possible, especially given that this is a big studio movie. But that's what this story required. Despite the title, War for the Planet of the Apes is a surprisingly intimate war camp story that focuses more on the emotional toll that war takes for soldiers on both sides, and the motivations that drive the leaders of both those sides. The film doesn't pull any punches, either; something else I admire about it. Andy Serkis delivers, appropriately, his best turn as Caesar with this installment. The power of said performance isn't lost whatsoever through any and all digital enhancements, because the core of this performance IS Andy Serkis and not what the effects can do. For the third time in a row, I believed Caesar was real. Serkis is also provided a fantastic foil in The Colonel, portrayed with ruthless nuance by Woody Harrelson. On paper, The Colonel may seem like a stock villain character, but Harrelson's performance gives him so much more presence and gravitas, plus there's a scene late in the film where he and Caesar have a heart-to-heart, and it's a pivotal moment for the character that Harrelson sells the shit out of. And while any action in the film may be brief, it's still effective, and the finale in particular plays out in a way that mostly goes against expectation by not giving into any of those cheer-worthy moments you're likely to see in other movies of this ilk. That's because, though, that War for the Planet of the Apes -- and this trilogy as a whole -- is much deeper and more resonant and adult than the typical blockbuster fare.
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Post by frankyt on Feb 16, 2018 9:07:20 GMT -5
So what's the criteria for these lists? What makes a great movie? For me my number one is re-watchability.
And out of these lists there are probably two that I would stop scrolling on cable to watch so far. Maybe 3.
Technical achievements are nice and all, but gimme some surface level entertainment these days. Wasnt always like that and maybe I am getting dumber overall or maybe I just value my time more now as it seems to be getting shorter in a way it wasn't before. I find my lists to be somewhat embarrassing almost, they aren't even what i would consider great movies but perhaps great uses of my time.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 16, 2018 10:42:05 GMT -5
I predict La La Land for best picture.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 16, 2018 11:27:27 GMT -5
So what's the criteria for these lists? What makes a great movie? For me my number one is re-watchability. And out of these lists there are probably two that I would stop scrolling on cable to watch so far. Maybe 3. Technical achievements are nice and all, but gimme some surface level entertainment these days. Wasnt always like that and maybe I am getting dumber overall or maybe I just value my time more now as it seems to be getting shorter in a way it wasn't before. I find my lists to be somewhat embarrassing almost, they aren't even what i would consider great movies but perhaps great uses of my time. We might just have different ideas about rewatachability. I can say with confidence I'd love to revisit every movie in my own top ten. |
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Post by Dracula on Feb 16, 2018 11:35:07 GMT -5
So what's the criteria for these lists? What makes a great movie? For me my number one is re-watchability. And out of these lists there are probably two that I would stop scrolling on cable to watch so far. Maybe 3. Technical achievements are nice and all, but gimme some surface level entertainment these days. Wasnt always like that and maybe I am getting dumber overall or maybe I just value my time more now as it seems to be getting shorter in a way it wasn't before. I find my lists to be somewhat embarrassing almost, they aren't even what i would consider great movies but perhaps great uses of my time. Rewatchability means very little to me. There are YouTube videos that I can watch hundreds of times but I'd hardly call them the greatest examples of the cinematic form, but some of my favorite movies are one I'm only in the mood for every few years or so. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 16, 2018 11:38:58 GMT -5
There are YouTube videos that I can watch hundreds of times Get those 100s of rewatches in before I lose my copyright dispute! |
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 16, 2018 13:25:33 GMT -5
I'm in between. I enjoy reading everyone's top 10 lists but I feel odd trying to think of my own top 10 simply because there aren't too many movies I really enjoy throughout the year. I liked Get Out and Three Billboards, they're probably among the 10 best that I've seen but they're also movies I'm not overly anxious to watch again anytime soon nor did I derive any great amount of enjoyment from them. As I said in other threads, they were fine, just nothing that blew me away. Maybe you guys don't have that when making your lists but I dunno, there's something about it that seems false or hypocritical when I start ranking movies that didn't do all that much for me.
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Post by frankyt on Feb 16, 2018 14:28:23 GMT -5
Yes maybe it and I've already watched get out since it's been on tv... But I'm not stopping for any of these movies. Not one.
Gimme Kong skull island any day. Shit give me King Arthur its way more entertaining than a lot of these. Shape of water I guess is pretty watchable though. I don't love it but it is charming in its own simplistic way.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Feb 16, 2018 14:57:55 GMT -5
I don't really rank shit anymore. I just watch movies and (hopefully) enjoy them. Maybe I'll single out a movie I liked more than most every year, but that's about it.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2018 17:16:46 GMT -5
Re-watchability definitely has become a bigger factor for me over the years, especially when determining what to rank where on these lists. For example, I think Dunkirk is great but if I'm being honest, I'd be more likely to watch something like The Disaster Artist or The Big Sick or War for the Planet of the Apes again over it if I had to choose. But also, I feel like those movies left a bigger impact on me than Dunkirk in various ways. So it's a mix of how great I think a particular film is and how much I think I can come back to it in comparison to others on the list.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 16, 2018 19:20:34 GMT -5
So what's the criteria for these lists? What makes a great movie? For me my number one is re-watchability. And out of these lists there are probably two that I would stop scrolling on cable to watch so far. Maybe 3. Technical achievements are nice and all, but gimme some surface level entertainment these days. Wasnt always like that and maybe I am getting dumber overall or maybe I just value my time more now as it seems to be getting shorter in a way it wasn't before. I find my lists to be somewhat embarrassing almost, they aren't even what i would consider great movies but perhaps great uses of my time. Mine is pretty much based on how much I think "well, that was awesome" when I finish watching it. |
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2018 19:40:00 GMT -5
Rewatchability means very little to me Re-watchability definitely has become a bigger factor for me The older we get, and the more movies we watch, the more they'll be movies that get lost in the shuffle. I bet there's movies from 2007 that you absolutely loved and gave tons of Golden Stake Awards to that you don't remember jack-shit about. Not saying every great movie is rewatchable. There's notable exceptions like Schindler's List and Requiem for a Dream. But if you watch a movie, and get the sense that it didn't connect with you in spite of its technical achievements, chances are you'll forget about it in 10 years. So I'm gonna side with MovieBuff and frankyt on this one. The more engaging a movie is, the better. |
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Post by Dracula on Feb 16, 2018 19:58:56 GMT -5
Rewatchability means very little to me Re-watchability definitely has become a bigger factor for me The older we get, and the more movies we watch, the more they'll be movies that get lost in the shuffle. I bet there's movies from 2007 that you absolutely loved and gave tons of Golden Stake Awards to that you don't remember jack-shit about. Not saying every great movie is rewatchable. There's notable exceptions like Schindler's List and Requiem for a Dream. But if you watch a movie, and get the sense that it didn't connect with you in spite of its technical achievements, chances are you'll forget about it in 10 years. So I'm gonna side with MovieBuff and frankyt on this one. The more engaging a movie is, the better. Well, the movies that won Golden Stakes in 2007 were Eastern Promises, Hot Fuzz, Grindhouse (x3), The Bourne Ultimatum (x3), Black Snake Moan (x2), Superbad (x2), 300 (x2), There Will Be Blood (x3), Sweeny Todd, No Country For Old Men (x2), The Diving Bell and Butterfly (x2), The Namesake, Juno, I'm Not There, Talk to Me, Into the Wild, Michael Clayton, American Gangster, Sunshine, The Orphanage, and No End In Sight. A couple of them are a touch more obscure at this point with the general public but I remember most of them well enough and could probably carry out a conversation about any of them. I own about a dozen of those on DVD/blu-ray (more than I would now), but aside from No Country For Old Men I don't know that I've seen any of them more than two or three times despite liking them all. I might go so far as to say that the movies I don't rewatch a million times are the ones I like the best, usually the ones I'm quickest to rewatch are the ones I'm kind of on the fence about and want to reassess. If I really love a movie I'll feel like I already got what I needed from it on viewing one and will avoid over re-watching it to avoid getting sick of it and make the next revisit more of a fresh viewing. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2018 20:06:23 GMT -5
Time for Neverending to go back to disagreeing with me... PHANTOMKNIGHT'S TOP TEN OF 2017
10. Get Out 9. Wonder Woman 8. Dunkirk 7. The Disaster Artist 6. The Big Sick 5. The Shape of Water 4. War for the Planet of the Apes 3. BLADE RUNNER 2049
Unlike the majority of film enthusiasts, I don't exactly worship at the altar of the first Blade Runner. That's not to say I think it's bad, far from it -- in fact, I finally watched The Final Cut the day before seeing this film and really liked it. But I wasn't exactly frothing at the mouth for a sequel...until Denis Villenueve was announced as director. I firmly believe Villenueve is one of the best working directors today, and with Blade Runner 2049, he continues to prove why. In many respects, I'd say I prefer Blade Runner 2049 to its predecessor. This is a shining example of just how smart big-budget filmmaking can be. Like the first, this film relies more on plot and atmosphere to captivate its audience, and is unafraid to resist the conventional ideas on what a big movie like this should be. It's a big-budget film for adults. Between Villenueve's incredible grasp on tone and atmosphere and cinematographer Roger Deakins' beautiful camerawork, Blade Runner 2049 is almost hypnotically watchable. But the film is equally big in themes and ideas as it is in visual and tonal wonder. It builds upon everything from the first, but also wisely chooses not to answer the important questions left open at the end of that one. Instead, it asks even more questions -- and even more interesting ones, at that. Blade Runner 2049 constantly had me engrossed, despite its nearly three-hour runtime. It also appears to be more on the intellectual side, but it's actually sneakily emotional, too. Any movie that actually gets me to care about a character who's just a hologram deserves credit in my book. And the addition of Ryan Gosling into this universe clicks into place like that puzzle piece you never thought you'd find, but unexpectedly do. When I walked out of Blade Runner 2049 for the first time, I finally understood why people hold this universe in such high regard. |
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Post by Neverending on Feb 16, 2018 20:26:09 GMT -5
Time for Neverending to go back to disagreeing with me... Blade Runner, as of now, is in my Top 10 even though I didn't love it. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 16, 2018 20:33:22 GMT -5
Time for Neverending to go back to disagreeing with me... Blade Runner, as of now, is in my Top 10 even though I didn't love it.  |
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