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Post by IanTheCool on Sept 30, 2019 21:07:09 GMT -5
I'm confused.
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Post by IanTheCool on Oct 14, 2019 0:57:36 GMT -5
Instead of making me watch a 50 minute video, how about you tell me what the point of it is.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 14, 2019 1:36:22 GMT -5
Instead of making me watch a 50 minute video, how about you tell me what the point of it is. Subverting Expectations
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Post by Neverending on Dec 24, 2019 5:15:29 GMT -5
SnoBorderZero IanTheCool PG CooperMerry Christmas Eve I just finished re-watching Last Jedi. Maybe Dracula is right and this is the worst one in the Sequel Trilogy. Maybe. There’s huge portions that are utterly pointless. The slow speed chase (that’s actually a high speed chase). How clever. Poe versus Laura Dern. Finn and Roses’ Casino Adventure. Benicio Del Toro and the Codebreaking Heist that goes no where. Last Jedi is, without a doubt, the most boring of the trio. That said, there are many bright spots. The opening action scene is great. Some of the Luke-Rey stuff works. All of the Rey-Kylo stuff works. The final battle in the salt planet is great - if you overlook the Love Conquers All moment. I even like the little kids at the end. But... like with Rise of Skywalker, it’s very misguided. I don’t mind Luke being disillusioned with the Jedi and resisting to train Rey. It just wasn’t handled well. Rian Johnson was so obsessed with subverting expectations that he missed very obvious plot points. Luke isn’t wrong. The Jedi were trash. That was kinda the point of the Prequels. The Jedi were so politicized that it drove Anakin to the Dark Side. Instead of saying that Luke sensed the darkness in Kylo and had a moment of weakness, why not simply say they were ideologically conflicted. Luke attempted to rebuild the Jedi, as they were, and faced similar pitfalls and that drove Kylo away. That also fits into Kylo’s narrative that he’s caught in between the light and dark, and also, lends itself into Johnson’s concept of burying the past. Kylo wants the Jedi, the Sith, the First Order and the Resistance all gone so he can build from scratch. You could have turned Kylo Ren into a bit of a James Bond villain. You could have also used that to take the series back to its samurai/western roots. Last Jedi should have been a Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars type movie. Have Kylo play all sides against each other - and have Rey caught in the center of it. I still maintain this movie should have ended with Rey and Kylo joining forces. That should have been the cliffhanger.
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 24, 2019 9:42:23 GMT -5
I'm really surprised that you're not with me here. You're supposed to defend me against these characters, and the only one I've got on my side is the blood-sucking lawyer.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 24, 2019 11:45:25 GMT -5
Let's just agree Maz Kanata is the worst character in the series. Worse than Jar Jar. Worse than Rose.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 24, 2019 11:46:27 GMT -5
Am I the blood sucking lawyer? Because I like Last Jedi.
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Post by Deexan on Dec 24, 2019 12:21:55 GMT -5
I think the bloodsucking lawyer is Ben Shapiro.
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 24, 2019 13:31:10 GMT -5
You are not helping my cause.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 24, 2019 13:50:35 GMT -5
Yeah, every time I re-watch Last Jedi, the weaknesses stand out more.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 24, 2019 13:54:59 GMT -5
Yeah, every time I re-watch Last Jedi, the weaknesses stand out more. Lawrence Kasdan should have never left. He would have reined in Rian Johnson.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Dec 24, 2019 13:58:10 GMT -5
You are not helping my cause.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 24, 2019 14:06:49 GMT -5
Yeah, every time I re-watch Last Jedi, the weaknesses stand out more. Lawrence Kasdan should have never left. He would have reined in Rian Johnson. Or, like you said, helped him execute his ideas better.
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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 24, 2019 14:10:01 GMT -5
Lawrence Kasdan should have never left. He would have reined in Rian Johnson. Or, like you said, helped him execute his ideas better. And yet you loved Rise of skywalker. Cooommeee OOOONNNN!
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 24, 2019 14:19:43 GMT -5
Or, like you said, helped him execute his ideas better. And yet you loved Rise of skywalker. Cooommeee OOOONNNN!
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Dec 24, 2019 19:48:18 GMT -5
Let's just agree Maz Kanata is the worst character in the series. Worse than Jar Jar. Worse than Rose. Awful character. You might be right, at least I can laugh at Jar Jar and Rose. Maz is just... what the fuck, why are you here? Why are you wasting the talents of the best actress in these movies and making her this stupid character?
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