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Post by Neverending on Dec 13, 2017 4:08:03 GMT -5
The movie is thoroughly entertaining. Let’s establish that right off the bat. Now for the bad. It’s a cinematic blue ball. Rian Johnson set up an amazing Part 3 and then just said, “fuck it”, and tossed it out. We’ll get to that once we can have a spoiler filled discussion. For now, here’s the gist of it. While Rey is off on that Jedi planet with Luke, the Resistance sends out Finn on a special mission. No. No. No. It’s not a clone of Empire. Although it has a similar structure, the story itself is completely different because all the characters are spread out. Empire is compact. You have Luke & Yoda, Han & Leia and that morphs into Vader & Luke. Here, all these Force Awakens characters are off on their mini adventure. That’s the big flaw with the movie. It has no focal point. It was leading to one, but Johnson fucked it up. What we’re left with feels more like the midseason finale of a TV show than the middle chapter of a trilogy. These characters are tough to hate. The movie is difficult to hate. Most people are gonna have loads of fun watching it. But Star Wars is definitely heading in the direction of Marvel. It has no backbone. Exciting ideas are tossed out in favor of safe options. If you come into this movie expecting a “Luke I am your father” moment, you’re gonna be super disappointed. But hey! At least they didn’t blow up a planet. Oops! Did I spoil the movie for FShuttari? |
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Post by RedVader on Dec 13, 2017 10:14:26 GMT -5
If Disney Approved it and his style it means they approved him doing what they like and thats ignoring the legends and boosting up Rey and her taking over the franchise episodic films. I think people will miss George when this saga is done and wonder what his would have been like even though peoples hate for the Prequels which was kinda over board.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 13, 2017 13:39:51 GMT -5
I was one of the few who even though enjoyed "The Force Awakens" still didn't feel it was all that original. It was basically "A New Hope" with new characters and better effects.
Basically I'm so glad this movie is going in a direction, and isn't trying to be "Empire Strikes Back"
At least I hope so... We'll see I have my ticket set for Friday Afternoon.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 13, 2017 13:58:14 GMT -5
I was one of the few who even though enjoyed "The Force Awakens" still didn't feel it was all that original. It was basically "A New Hope" with new characters and better effects. Isn't that how everybody felt? |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 13, 2017 14:46:07 GMT -5
One could make the argument, though, that Force Awakens NEEDED to feel familiar as a way of reassuring fans that the filmmakers were going to go back to what made the franchise so special in the first place. It was essentially meant to be the comfort food and the sequels are the new dishes. Now is when they can maybe start trying different things. So in that respect, the structure of The Force Awakens doesn't really bother me at all.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 13, 2017 15:28:58 GMT -5
I was one of the few who even though enjoyed "The Force Awakens" still didn't feel it was all that original. It was basically "A New Hope" with new characters and better effects. Isn't that how everybody felt? No. From what I've gathered talking to people, they liked that it felt like A New Hope, and want the movies to not take chances or shake things up. I don't particularly care for seeing the same Star Wars movies over and over again. |
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Post by RedVader on Dec 13, 2017 17:49:14 GMT -5
Well Die Hard Star Wars Fans are a bit crazy and unreliable cause they love and praise you but can turn on you like a crazy cat.
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Post by Deexan on Dec 14, 2017 19:01:24 GMT -5
I loved it. Glad they ditched the homages of TFA and avoided some potentially predictable moments.
Wonderful fight scenes and the 2.5 hours flew by. Where they go in #3 i have no idea, and i like it that way. I think one thing we can be sure of is that there will be at least a 5 year time jump - which allows them to write out Leia naturally without forcing (hehe) it.
Kylo vs Rey 2 in ep IX should be insane if both have fully developed their powers. Does it already have a director/release date?
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Post by Neverending on Dec 14, 2017 19:37:24 GMT -5
I loved it. Glad they ditched the homages of TFA and avoided some potentially predictable moments. Wonderful fight scenes and the 2.5 hours flew by. Where they go in #3 i have no idea, and i like it that way. I think one thing we can be sure of is that there will be at least a 5 year time jump - which allows them to write out Leia naturally without forcing (hehe) it. Kylo vs Rey 2 in ep IX should be insane if both have fully developed their powers. Does it already have a director/release date? J.J. Abrams is back for and it’ll be released in 2019. |
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Post by Dracula on Dec 14, 2017 23:51:01 GMT -5
Alright, so, I'm not going to say I disliked this thing but it is a very very mixed bag that's all over the place and I definately liked The Force Awakens better. There are some great scenes in it that will leave people satisfied and feel like they got their money's worth but there's also some really shockingly questionable moments as well. Things I liked: Give or take a few jokes that opening scene with the battle was pretty strong and that drama with the last bomber was very effective.
I basically liked all the stuff with Rey. I liked her interactions with Luke, I liked her psychic link with Kylo, I loved the scene where she faced off with Snoke.
Incorporating flashbacks goes against the basic language of Star Wars, but the movie makes them work and does a reasonable job of explaining that bit of backstory.
Liked all the Finn and Rose stuff when they first meet and when they get back and start trying to infiltrate the ship. Also like the Benicio del Toro character and his nihilistic outlook.
Luke's projection facing off against Kylo was pretty cool.
Was really liking Andy Serkis as Snoke and was kind of sad to see him leave. Also thought Domhnall Gleeson really stepped his game up. Dude got a very cool jacket.
Things I didn't like: Some of the comic relief in this is just brutal. Starting the damn movie with a joke about being on hold got things off on a very wrong foot, those bird-gerbil things are awful, hated the nun things on the Luke planet.
Finn and Rose's jaunt to the casino planet is fucking awful and really kills a lot of the tension elsewhere in the movie.
The basic set-up of the Resistance ship slowly outrunning the First Order ships is interesting but kind of doesn't make sense. Why don't the First Order just call for reinforcements to surround them? Additionally, it makes the threat and danger seem so active and immediate that it makes
Finn and Rose horsing around on the casino planet that much more painful.
The scene where Leia survives being sucked into the vacuum of space was all kinds of WTF
I liked the scene where Yoda shows up in theory but not in practice. I think Frank Oz is losing it, he sounded more like Miss Piggy than Yoda.
Poe Dameron sucks. For a while the movie seems to realize he sucks but then everyone just sort of forgives him out of nowhere even though he's responsible for the deaths of hundreds of resistance fighters.
The movie does not retroactively justify how Rey managed to beat Kylo despite have zero jedi training. I was giving it a pass under the assumption that there was some explanation coming but it seems like there isn't.
Rose cutting off Finn's kamakaze run was kind of dumb. She didn't know Luke was going to save them and in essence would have been condemning the resistance to ruin. Given that the movie valorized similar self-sacrifice just a few scenes ago with the Laura Dern character it's quite the mixed message.
The last battle on the salt planet is cool, but the movie kind of peaks with the Snoke confrontation and it just felt wrong that it kept going on so long after that.
What the fuck was up with that coda. I'm still not sure what star rating I'm going to give this. It feels so much less like a complete movie and more like a collection of stuff, some of it really good some of it notably bad and it's a little hard to maintain perspective. Hell, I might have even liked Rogue One better. |
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Post by Fanible on Dec 15, 2017 0:58:03 GMT -5
Well you may have liked it more than I. I also liked The Force Awakens more. While I liked many parts of the The Last Jedi, and even got pretty emotional a couple times, the disappointments are starting to outweigh the good in my mind. I was pretty disappointed with a lot of characters and general character development, including Luke, Snoke, Poe, Phasma, and others. My favorite bits and characters were Rey and Kylo. Kylo might actually be the most interesting character to me. I also liked Leia for the most part. Couldn't always understand her completely, but I'm pretty sad she's not able to return for the final film now. I didn't mind Leia surviving in space. I wanted to see if she had some good force use of her own, and at least we got that. I would have liked more, but it was something. However it does come back to another nitpick I'm starting to have with these movies: Not super keen on new force powers continually popping up. You need to have some rules in stories and lore and there doesn't appear to be any when it comes to the force, but I digress. ________________________________________ Kylo & Rey:Yes, these two were my favorite. I enjoyed most of their story arcs a great deal, as well as their cross-space conversations. Not to say they weren't without their faults. Kylo killing Snoke was cool, but I would have preferred a better twist than him basically just being another Sith taking the place of his master. I would have found it more interesting if Kylo had actually turned back to the light side and something new and interesting was in store for the third film. I loved all his conflicts you could see within him throughout the movie, when it came to his mother and Rey.
Rey, I would have preferred to see some actual training. Not just Luke being grumpy and not realizing the error of his ways until she was already gone. Talk about misdirection in the trailers. It really did look like she would be receiving training from him. Nope. She just did her own thing.
As for her parentage not really being addressed, is this what we're accepting? Rather, I'm assuming that Kylo stating that her parents were nobodies is supposed to convince her to join him. I thought that at first, but then seeing the little boy at the end having force abilities (who somehow has already heard the story of Luke), is maybe supposed to reinforce that fact. That you don't necessarily have to have significant parentage to be gifted in the force. That's probably true. However, she seems TOO naturally powerful to just be a nobody. I'm also still on the side of the fence that calling this "THE SKYWALKER SAGA" is annoying, if your lead character is not a Skywalker. I was definitely on the bandwagon of her being so, but that's seeming more unlikely. Plus, it still seems pretty obvious that they cast her not only for her acting, but for her appearance. You can't tell me it's a coincidence that she just happens to look so much like Natalie Portman/Carrie Fisher/Keira Knightly. So whether or not she turns out to be, it's pretty clear she was cast in the role for that original intent (or at least possible intent). Luke:Probably my biggest disappointment in the film. From the first moment we see him and he slings the lightsaber over his shoulder, to just being grumpy and not training Rey. Maybe a little training? But not really. We thought there would be, from the trailers, but as it turns out, Rey pretty much was just practicing all on her own.
We never got to see Luke be a badass, either. I was waiting for it. I wanted it. To use the force and fuck the place up and/or pull out his green lightsaber. Even during parts where he was toying around / fighting with Rey. It would have been great if when Rey pulled a lightsaber on him, if he just popped it out of her hand and flipped it on her. Could have said something like "You're definitely not ready, yet". Anything, really, but nothing, ultimately.
Projecting himself across space is kinda cool and interesting, but it's not being a badass. It also distracted me and I felt it was directed very poorly. Rather than being invested in the scenes before finding out he was force-projecting himself, I was too busy being distracted by what I thought were possible mistakes, plotholes, and strange decisions. "How did Luke get in the resistance base? Why does he suddenly look younger and have a brown beard and short hair? Was this a reshoot and done after they shot the flashbacks? He has a blue lightsaber, that looks strangely like Anakin's? Damnit, I wanted his green one!" All of these thoughts were going through my head instead of being able to enjoy the fight.
So yeah, thank goodness it turned out he was projecting himself, because it took care of all those plotholes/minor annoyances. However, none of that should have been on my mind. If he had shown up in a more normal fashion and looked like his present-day self (long hair, greyed beard), I feel like it would have had a better delivery and surprise. Because you either do what I did, and all that stuff was bugging and/or confusing you, or you already know something is not quite right and Luke is up to something other than just there to fight. Either way, not happy with the outcome.
Then lastly, I didn't feel like that's a great way to go out of the universe. You ran away and have been in hiding all this time, and you finally decide to man up and help out, and all you do is cause a brief distraction and then die because you're at peace? What? He wasn't even that old. How in the world did that one little bit of assistance make up for or put him at peace of mind so that he was good to go and just "die"? I guess it could be said that he wasn't really dying, but moving onto the force-ghost realm. *shrugs* I suppose so. Maybe we'll see him in episode 9 as such.
As for the power itself... definitely something else, eh? This is coming back to talking about all the new force powers coming into play. In TFA we saw information being extracted from people's heads and being able to stop laser bolts in midair, and now in this... surviving the vacuum of space, having full on conversations across presumedly great distances, and projecting yourself far away in a seamless manner.... definitely taking the force powers to another level. Hell, he even projected an object to be placed into the hands of Leia, that actually stayed there for a long period after as well. Snoke:Probably doesn't help that I read stuff like Andy Serkis claiming that Snoke was more powerful than both the Emperor and Darth Vader. That was a load of hogwash. I suppose you could just make the simple arguement that Kylo is more powerful. He has to be. He basically clouded the mind of Snoke to trick him into getting killed. I'll admit, it was kind of badass and shocking, on Kylo's part. But all this buildup around who Snoke is or was, and for what? Essentially another Darth Maul. No, even that's a poor comparison. Darth Maul was better than Snoke. Poe:Was not feeling Poe in this. He had better moments in TFA. He started out good at the beginning, but then just became this subplot for the resistance trying to get away, which lead to him looking foolish. Even at the end with the salt planet, nothing came of them racing off in their weird speeder/fighter things. He didn't get to show how great a pilot he was any further. For that matter, that whole sequence that lead to the copout of Finn trying to sacrifice himself, but then had no real payoff? Did I already forget what happened? Did anything come of them racing towards the "battering ram canon"? I guess that's another topic. Finn & Rose: I didn't mind this excursion they go on, but Dracula has a point. It was like another movie, them going on this mini-adventure, all the while with the New Order on the tails of the resistance. I still liked it, though, and I really enjoyed all the different creatures. It just maybe was not placed or paced properly. Maybe a bit forced, but I did like their chemistry for the most part. Obviously they're pushing a romance for these two. Can't say I necessarily agree with her "heroics" of saving Finn, though, and I actually would have found his sacrifice to be kind of refreshing. Sad, sure, but that would be the point. But seriously, they both could have died from what she did.  Um, well... what's there to say about Captain Phasma? I can't imagine if people were disappointed with the lack of her in the first film, that they'll be that much happier here. She was barely in it. She did at least get a fight scene, but it was extremely brief, and then she died. Aaaaand, that's all she wrote.
Really too bad, too. As others have pointed out, it really should have been her in TFA fighting Finn down on the planet. She could have yelled "Traitor!", then they could have fought, then Han could have blown up something near them tossing her aside, she could have then seen the X-Wing's inbound and fucking up the place, then yelled for retreat to the other troopers. Could have been epic. The brief spat she had in TLJ didn't really make up for that missed opportunity, but it almost felt like that's what they were going for. Leia and others:As difficult to understand as Carrie Fisher is sometimes, I did really like her in this, and it's a damn shame she's not returning. I really enjoyed her presence as the wise, lightly-spoken General. I'm even more upset by this because I hate that the three main original characters are all going to be gone now. For this reason, I'm actually pretty upset that Luke died. I get that he probably was already written to having done so, but I feel like at least ONE should have survived this trilogy. It more than likely was supposed to be Leia. Now it's going to be weird that we lost each of the original three, one per movie. I guess she might not, but no idea how they're going to pull that off if she doesn't.
And for a long time I've said I wanted to see her be a badass, along with Luke, being that she is a Skywalker and all. I would have liked to see her use the force more, but I'll accept that ability to create some force bubble around her to survive in space. Better than nothing, I guess.
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Was no one else bothered by the lack of Chewbacca? He was barely in this either. I figured we would be seeing a budding new friendship between him and Rey. Chewie is pretty much just in the movie for a couple brief minutes (spread out) for some light-hearted comedy.
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General Hux was good. Not much else to say. Just an evil dude, yelling orders. His role was larger this time around and he filled the needed bastard position.
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Vice Admiral Holdo (Dern) and DJ (Del Toro) were fine. Neither actor's performance I thought particularly stood out, and anyone could have played them. Odd that I should say that, I guess, since DJ had the bizarre stutter, which I found to be rather silly and out of place. I would have liked him more if they just had him play it more straight (but keeping the off-the-cuff edginess). I'm guessing we'll see him back. Not Holdo, obviously. Her sacrifice was pretty awesome. It's a wonder why no one else has done it, though, considering how devastating the damage.
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And, of course, Yoda. Let me first say that Yoda coming back is indeed fantastic. I was hoping he would, but come on. That puppet was painful. It seriously felt like a different movie, like a fan film with a 'best-they-could-do' puppet and performance awkwardly spliced into a big Hollywood film. It just felt odd. It further weirds me out even more with stuff like Snoke being CGI when he could have very easily been an actor with makeup and/or CG touch-ups. Not everything from the prequels has to be avoided. A CGI Yoda who's just chillin and talking would have been perfectly fine and looked much better. ________________________________________ 'sigh'It probably sounds like I didn't care for it as much as I did. I'm giving it a 6.5 / 10. There were plenty of parts I enjoyed, for sure. I just had to get the disappointments and nitpicks off my chest. I know I'll probably be in the minority on a lot of these. *I kind of feel that it's a bit of a disservice not to prepare people for Captain Phasma in this. She's barely in it. Don't go into it expecting much more from her than the first. |
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Post by RedVader on Dec 15, 2017 12:58:46 GMT -5
Its more or less the same complaints or likes from Force Awakens. Fans dont want these to copy other Star Wars films and when try new stuff they hate and bashed poor Johnson a bit too much for my liking.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 15, 2017 13:59:25 GMT -5
Did anyone see this in IMAX 3D was it worth it?
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Post by Fanible on Dec 15, 2017 15:39:28 GMT -5
TFA looked great, so I'm sure this would as well. I plan to see it in IMAX 3D next.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 16, 2017 0:20:17 GMT -5
Wow. Just wow. I just experienced one of the best Star Wars movies since the original trilogy. Rain Johnson is a masterful film maker! So many epic moments.
This was totally not a “hey Disney wants us to make a movie that makes billions”
This felt like a Rain Johnson film. Not a cookie cutter Disney franchise movie
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Post by Neverending on Dec 16, 2017 1:33:43 GMT -5
Wow. Just wow. I just experienced one of the best Star Wars movies since the original trilogy. Rain Johnson is a masterful film maker! So many epic moments. This was totally not a “hey Disney wants us to make a movie that makes billions” This felt like a Rain Johnson film. Not a cookie cutter Disney franchise movie lol |
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 16, 2017 1:58:38 GMT -5
The movie is thoroughly entertaining. Let’s establish that right off the bat. Now for the bad. It’s a cinematic blue ball. Rian Johnson set up an amazing Part 3 and then just said, “fuck it”, and tossed it out. We’ll get to that once we can have a spoiler filled discussion. For now, here’s the gist of it. While Rey is off on that Jedi planet with Luke, the Resistance sends out Finn on a special mission. No. No. No. It’s not a clone of Empire. Although it has a similar structure, the story itself is completely different because all the characters are spread out. Empire is compact. You have Luke & Yoda, Han & Leia and that morphs into Vader & Luke. Here, all these Force Awakens characters are off on their mini adventure. That’s the big flaw with the movie. It has no focal point. It was leading to one, but Johnson fucked it up. What we’re left with feels more like the midseason finale of a TV show than the middle chapter of a trilogy. These characters are tough to hate. The movie is difficult to hate. Most people are gonna have loads of fun watching it. But Star Wars is definitely heading in the direction of Marvel. It has no backbone. Exciting ideas are tossed out in favor of safe options. If you come into this movie expecting a “Luke I am your father” moment, you’re gonna be super disappointed. But hey! At least they didn’t blow up a planet. Oops! Did I spoil the movie for FShuttari ? Wait did you say if you were waiting for a Luke I am your father moment, you wont get it???
The whole scene with Kylo killing Snoke was so unexpected... Maybe it was me, but that scene was epic and amazing. Also the Asian chick saving Finn and kissing him was really well done.
Luke coming as a mirage and everything with Leah... This movie was bonkers in throwing a rench what a trilogy is.
It did many unique things that I'm sure Disney heads would not approve off.
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Post by daniel on Dec 16, 2017 2:35:59 GMT -5
I can't really decide yet if I liked this or Rogue One more, but I liked this WAY more than Force Awakens. What's weird, though, is that my opinions of the characters flip-flopped entirely with this film. In Force Awakens, I loved Poe and Finn, but hated Rey and Kylo Ren (at least once he took his helmet off). This time around, Kylo Ren was much more formidable and villainous, and Rey was much more layered and not just some Mary Sue trope.
Poe was a total asshole, through and through. Since we saw his parts of the movie through his eyes, our opinions were mis-colored because of the nature of his character. He disobeyed direct orders, got a shitload of people killed, then declared a mutiny. And, then, we as an audience were expected to just forgive him because Leia simply says "I like him." NOPE.
Finn was mostly wasted. We got some lame minor character, Rose, who joined Finn in what was a really weird side-plot in the movie (more on that later), and so we lost the camaraderie between Rey and Finn or Finn and Poe from the first film, and, instead, had to suffer the Finn and Rose Sideplot Show. Rose inevitably pissed me off to no end when she risked sacrificing all of the rebels to sabotage Finn's suicide mission to stop the battering ram cannon. Dumb, dumb bitch. I hope she's dead. Finn's saving moment was the showdown with Phasma, but that in itself was a bit of a bummer as it meant not only a short-lived time with Phasma, but now we are guaranteed never to see her again.
I liked Snope immensely in this. His lair/chamber room was nothing short of sexy. I loved every minute we spent in there, and I thought the sequence with his death, while predictable moments before it happened, followed by the fight with the guards was incredible. I also liked that Rey and Kylo's struggle took a lot of turns, and kept you guessing before all the chips landed.
I'm a little confused about The Force. First, Leia essentially survives the cold of space and then flies back to her ship through space. I've always contended that Jedi should be able to fly, but they haven't been able to, so it was weird to see Leia doing this. It could have been explained as her using propulsion through zero gravity, or something to that effect, but I simply didn't get it. Also, how come Rey had to move the rocks with the Force? Why couldn't Leia? She can fly through space and survive space without any protective clothing or helmets, why can't she move a few rocks?
Now, I really enjoyed the movie, it was entertaining. Luke didn't get to be the badass Jedi I was hoping to see, but I loved his Force troll of Kylo Ren at the end. I don't get why he had to commit Force Suicide, but I did enjoy him being in the movie.
HOWEVER - The whole central plot of the movie was total bullshit. I cannot accept that the entire Empire fleet was able to stay within view of the Rebels fleet, but couldn't quite get close enough to affect their shields with their missiles. If anything, that entire fleet of Star Destroyers and Snope's ship should have launched every Tie Fighter they had available - it would have made short work of the freighter. It made no sense to me at all. I don't like Poe's answer to their situation - send Finn and Rose to a distant planet, snatch a code breaker, bring him back to Snope's ship, disable the hyperspace tracker, and then give the freighter 6 minutes to make a hyperjump. WTF. I also don't understand how they had 6 hours of fuel left, and so Finn was given 6 hours to get the codebreaker - how much fuel does a hyperjump take? They seemed to think a hyperjump would take up most of the remaining fuel, so did they have 6 hours total of fuel available, or 6 hours of "barely stay ahead of the Star Destroyers" fuel + Hyperjump fuel remaining? I hated all of this. I hated to think the freighter was just a fraction faster than the Empire fleet that they didn't gain any ground in 6 hours, but were still in view of them. And then, in the middle of this tense "we are JUST far away enough not to get destroyed" trapped situation, Finn and Rose are able to just jettison off in a ship. It was weird.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 16, 2017 2:38:45 GMT -5
After the lightspeed multi kill scene (which was amazing) and we got that drawn out frame of the aftermath, there was one little kid in the theater that let slip, "whoa." It was genuinely so wholesome that pretty much the whole place cracked up. Hope that sticks with that kid his whole life as his, "Star Wars moment". Actually that might be the most epic scene Star Wars has ever done. |
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Post by Deexan on Dec 16, 2017 5:36:22 GMT -5
The sound design during that bit was so epic.
Also, who gives a flying fuck about Captain fucking Phasma? Is it the chrome get-up y'all got a fetish for?
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Post by Fanible on Dec 16, 2017 12:26:38 GMT -5
Also, who gives a flying fuck about Captain fucking Phasma? Is it the chrome get-up y'all got a fetish for? Well, that's kind of the point. What you just said is the problem with Captain Phasma. She's been marketed as a character of some importance, and yet you don't really care about her. In that regard, your question would make sense being aimed at Disney/Lucasfilm. She was an overly marketed character and is played by Gwendoline Christie, but yet she's mostly unimportant and could have been played by anyone. That's the problem. She was marketed way too much for the first film, and she shouldn't have been marketed at all for the second. Her role and appearance in TLJ should have been entirely a surprise. Worse yet was there were reports made that her lack of character in TFA would be made up for in TLJ. Then on top of that, Christie has been so heavily featured in the press tours, because she is who she is, but she has just as much of a role as a dozen other minor characters throughout the movie that you don't see participating in every interview. Showing her fight with Finn in the trailers and having her interviewed so heavily, once again, falsely alluded to a greater presence in the film. She has had just as much of a role and importance in these movies as FN-2199 did. So yeah... you don't hire someone like Gwendoline Christie to play a character no one's going to give a flying fuck about. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 16, 2017 15:41:10 GMT -5
I was one of the few who even though enjoyed "The Force Awakens" still didn't feel it was all that original. It was basically "A New Hope" with new characters and better effects. Isn't that how everybody felt? |
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Post by Dracula on Dec 16, 2017 16:11:41 GMT -5
Isn't that how everybody felt? They wanted them to take good risks that would pay off... |
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 16, 2017 16:25:58 GMT -5
Well Doomsday Jr. made a surprise appearance yesterday so doesn’t look like I’ll be seeing Episode 8 for a while, maybe not until after Christmas. Enjoy the discussion, I’ve avoided this thread for the most part but in my day to day talk with other people I’m seeing a little ‘it’s great’ mixed in with a lot of ‘what happened?’
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Post by Neverending on Dec 16, 2017 17:01:20 GMT -5
Well Doomsday Jr. made a surprise appearance yesterday 30 years later...  |
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