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Post by Knerys on Dec 15, 2014 19:58:12 GMT -5
You really like reading too much into people's comments NE.
Of those two I'd prefer Wyatt but I've got nothing against Lin.
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Post by Neverending on Dec 15, 2014 20:01:03 GMT -5
I guess Lin is better than Roberto Orci.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 15, 2014 22:10:19 GMT -5
Emmerich would be better than Orci.
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Post by Fanible on Dec 15, 2014 22:49:57 GMT -5
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Post by Ewok Droppings on Dec 15, 2014 23:22:07 GMT -5
Uwe Boll?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 9:08:08 GMT -5
I've heard he's not been ruled out just yet.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 16, 2014 9:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by Neverending on Dec 16, 2014 15:30:30 GMT -5
JibbsKnerysbadassdigest.com/2014/12/15/whats-going-on-with-star-trek-3What was the source of the disagreement between Orci and Paramount? Guardians of the Galaxy. That's the movie that has a bug up Paramount's ass, and they want Star Trek 3 to feel more like Guardians. This comes on the heels of the first two movies being respectable, solid earners but not the kind of home runs Paramount needs. They want the third film to be huge, and they want it to be huge overseas especially. They look at Rocket and Groot and then they look at Keenser and they wonder why he doesn't have more of a role. Weirdly, I think you could use aspects of Guardians as a template for a Trek movie. What made that film work was the way humor and characterization melded with strong action and big, fun ideas. The Enterprise crew aren't galactic ne'er-do-wells, but many of the best Trek stories have them bouncing off each other. Of course I'm sure that's not what Paramount means when they use Guardians as a reference. Still, this could be the moment we get Harry Mudd on screen. If this is why Orci left I'm disappointed in him. If the studio is pushing to make a Trek movie that he feels won't be a proper Trek movie (and this is the guy who wrote Star Trek Into Darkness, the least Trek movie ever made), is quitting the right way to go? Why not stay and fight the good fight? Orci has said that he'll still be involved, but considering the film's current situation is all his fault - a year ago he set himself up as an obstacle to new directors coming aboard, his fights with the studio have left the film without a script very late in the process - I wonder how happy Paramount is to have his input. Of course a lot of this comes down to Bad Robot, who are still producing the picture, so perhaps Paramount only has so much say. It's also hard to imagine a guy who has no directing experience getting a shot at directing this movie - the 50th anniversary movie for a franchise he claims to love - and just walking away like this. I won't lie: I don't know how I feel at this point. The whole process seems a bit fucked, and time is not on the movie's side right now. I don't think Star Trek 3 has an official release date yet, but it simply has to be December if they're starting over from scratch at this point. Some of the names on that Paramount wishlist freak me out - I like Justin Lin, but he's wrong for this movie. Wyatt is, without a doubt, the best choice, and since I doubt The Gambler is gonna make a dent at the box office it's good sense for him to come on to a movie that at least has a chance at being a big hit.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 16, 2014 15:51:29 GMT -5
I can see "The Voyage Home" which is beloved by everyone. Is a great example of the characters having fun and being funny but also moving the plot right along. Guardians of the Galaxy also did the same exact thing and it was felt around the World.
If the studio wants something like that for "Star Trek" it can't be a bad thing.
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Post by Knerys on Dec 16, 2014 15:54:09 GMT -5
So basically Paramount doesn't know what to do with the property and now everything has to be a Marvel movie.
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Post by Fanible on Dec 16, 2014 17:05:12 GMT -5
Marvel should just make every movie, of course.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 16, 2014 19:05:11 GMT -5
Gotta love people looking to the last theatrical hit on how to continue a 50 year franchise...
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Post by Neverending on Dec 16, 2014 20:39:19 GMT -5
Gotta love people looking to the last theatrical hit on how to continue a 50 year franchise... Yeah, what is this? The James Bond franchise?
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 16, 2014 20:55:05 GMT -5
Yeah, what is this? The James Bond franchise?
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Post by sabin26 on Dec 17, 2014 0:08:29 GMT -5
They did the same thing when Die Hard came out. Every movie after was just described as it's Die Hard, but instead of a building it's...
As much as I enjoy Guardians, that's not what Star Trek is. They don't want to keep the fanbase that has been for years happy...they want a new hip fanbase that will flood the theater for one weekened.
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Post by FShuttari on Dec 17, 2014 2:58:36 GMT -5
Guardians of the Galaxy took a lot from Serenity (firefly)
So really if that's the case, Star Trek is trying more to be Firefly. Which is never a bad thing honestly...
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Post by Neverending on Dec 17, 2014 10:28:23 GMT -5
Wasn't Firefly's purpose to take Star Trek's western-in-space pitch sale to the new level?
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Post by Knerys on Dec 17, 2014 11:11:45 GMT -5
Firefly was suspose to show the opposite side of all the Star Trek glitz. It was a different pov, not an elevation. He wrote after reading The Killer Angles and wanted to explore "the side that lost".
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Post by Knerys on Dec 17, 2014 11:13:07 GMT -5
Guardians of the Galaxy took a lot from Serenity (firefly) So really if that's the case, Star Trek is trying more to be Firefly. Which is never a bad thing honestly... It anything it took a lot more from Star Wars than Firefly.
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Post by Ewok Droppings on Dec 19, 2014 12:43:30 GMT -5
Here's a trailer for a fan film that is probably on par with what Orci would have delivered:
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Post by thebtskink on Dec 20, 2014 1:12:54 GMT -5
Let Frakes direct.
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Post by Ewok Droppings on Dec 20, 2014 15:02:58 GMT -5
In the name of all that's holy - NO NEXT GENERATION TIES! That is all.
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Post by Jibbs on Dec 22, 2014 20:47:48 GMT -5
Oh.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 21:13:59 GMT -5
It would've been nice to have had a director with no connection to the Fast and Furious franchise.
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