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Post by Neverending on Mar 29, 2016 20:02:27 GMT -5
Batman vs Superman made $15 million on Monday. Domestic total is now $181 million. For comparison, The Dark Knight made $24 million in its first Monday. $29 million in 2016 cash.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 30, 2016 8:57:48 GMT -5
I can't imagine that's very good considering how many people are on spring break.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 30, 2016 18:23:14 GMT -5
Batman v Superman grossed $12.1 million on Tuesday. Domestic total is now $193.2 million. Worldwide total is $501.8 million. To compare, Iron Man 3 had reached $196.6 million in its 5th day of release.
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Post by FShuttari on Mar 31, 2016 0:25:23 GMT -5
Batman v Superman grossed $12.1 million on Tuesday. Domestic total is now $193.2 million. Worldwide total is $501.8 million. To compare, Iron Man 3 had reached $196.6 million in its 5th day of release. Nobody cares what IM3 did against it. What about Avengers 1?
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Post by Neverending on Mar 31, 2016 15:08:59 GMT -5
Batman v Superman grossed $8 million on Wednesday. Domestic total is now $201.3 million. In other news, Zootopia is catching up to Deadpool in the worldwide box office. Deadpool has $745.9 million and Zootopia has $718.2 million. Also of interest, especially to Dracula , is that the top 10 worldwide list has TWO Chinese movies at the moment. The Mermaid has grossed $545.2 million and Monster Hunt has grossed $385.3 million. Both movies flopped in North America.
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Post by FShuttari on Apr 3, 2016 22:13:49 GMT -5
variety.com/2016/film/box-office/box-office-batman-v-superman-1201744334/“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” appears to be losing steam as it ends its second weekend in theaters. Once again, the critically loathed superhero film topped the box office, picking up $52.4 million. However, that represented a steep 68% fall from its $166 million debut. The results suggest that “Batman v Superman” will be a front-loaded blockbuster along the lines of “The Twilight Saga: New Moon,” “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2” or “X-Men Origins: Wolverine,” all of which earned a disproportionate share of their revenues in their initial weekends and suffered similar drop-offs. Given that the picture features two of the highest-profile comic-book characters in movie history, the results, which on paper are impressive, are nevertheless being heavily scrutinized. “When you’re squaring off with Christopher Nolan’s ‘Dark Knight’ trilogy, good luck,” said Jeff Bock, box office analyst with Exhibitor Relations. “The bottom line is it wasn’t a film up to the caliber of previous Batman or Superman films.”
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Post by Neverending on Apr 4, 2016 17:18:59 GMT -5
Final numbers are in. In its 2nd weekend of release, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice grossed $51.3 million. That's a 69.1% decline from its opening weekend. To compare, Daredevil had a 55.1% decline in its sophomore weekend. But that movie only grossed $102.5 million domestically. Even adjusted for inflation, that's only $147.9 million. Batman vs Superman is already at $260.4 million domestically and still has another weekend largely to itself. So Doomsday , SnoBorderZero and FShuttari are celebrating way too quickly. The movie is also at $682.9 million worldwide. It needs $800 million to break even.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 4, 2016 17:35:02 GMT -5
Eh, this is a movie where I don't really care how well it does. We're still going to get wave after wave of mediocre superhero movies and one movie underperforming (possibly) isn't going to stop it. If people want to see better superhero movies they'll have to flat out ignore the ones that insult their collective intelligence no matter which character is the lead and that's never, ever going to happen, at least not anytime soon.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 4, 2016 17:43:51 GMT -5
Eh, this is a movie where I don't really care how well it does. We're still going to get wave after wave of mediocre superhero movies and one movie underperforming (possibly) isn't going to stop it. If people want to see better superhero movies they'll have to flat out ignore the ones that insult their collective intelligence no matter which character is the lead and that's never, ever going to happen, at least not anytime soon. What we have left this year: Captain America: Civil War X-Men: Apocalypse TMNT: Out of the Shadows Suicide Squad Doctor Strange Only one or two of those have the potential to be hated by people. And probably none of them will flop at the box office.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 4, 2016 17:48:47 GMT -5
TMNT will suck for sure.
And I'm not surprised Batman v. Superman continues to make money. They picked an excellent slot, they had no competition last week (God's Not Dead 2 came out on April Fool's Day, lol) and they don't have much this week either, though I think Hardcore Henry will cut into it some.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 4, 2016 17:55:58 GMT -5
TMNT will suck for sure. And I'm not surprised Batman v. Superman continues to make money. They picked an excellent slot, they had no competition last week (God's Not Dead 2 came out on April Fool's Day, lol) and they don't have much this week either, though I think Hardcore Henry will cut into it some. The marketing team for Hardcore Henry fucked up. Had they known, or at least suspected, that people would hate Batman v Superman with a passion, they would have marketed that movie a lot better. It could have literally stolen the fanboy audience away. But right now, it's very much a low-key movie. Then again... crazier things have happened.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 4, 2016 19:43:46 GMT -5
I had the Hardcore Henry trailer for my Deadpool show, and people seemed really into it. It's not gonna have the marketing resources other movies do, but critics have enjoyed it for what it is, could do alright. But yeah, the fact we're talking about Hardcore Henry as possibly dipping into Batman v. Superman shows that there's really nothing to compete with it. It's getting lucky, very lucky.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 7, 2016 18:01:41 GMT -5
As we head into the weekend, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice has grossed $270.5 million domestically and $704.5 million worldwide. The good news for Warner Bros. is that they'll break even. They might even make a profit once Blu-Ray, VOD, Streaming and TV rights are factored in. But it's definitely not the success they sought. IN FACT, it was recently announced that instead of firing people, they're just gonna release less movies over the next few years. That should fix the financial books, right?
On the other side of Burbank is Disney. As I said earlier, Zootopia has quietly been a tremendous hit for the studio. As of right now, it's the highest grossing film of 2016 with $807.1 million worldwide. It should reach a billion once its released in Japan and other key markets. Domestically, it's still at #2 with $280 million. Considering it only has a week left till Jungle Book makes it irrelevant, it'll reach $300 million and then burn out. Compared to Disney's other non-Pixar 3D animated films, it has out-grossed all except for Frozen. Expect to see more Princess and talking animal movies from Disney in the coming years.
Opening tonight are The Boss and Hardcore Henry. Surprisingly, or NOT surprisingly, there's a good chance that The Boss will be #1. That has to be very embarrassing for Warner Bros., Ben Affleck, Zack Snyder and everyone involved in the DC Cinematic Universe. Guys, try not to fuck up the Suicide Squad.
Throughout the remainder of April there's The Jungle Book, Barbershop 3, The Huntsman's Winter's War and Keanu. So there's still quite some time left till Captain America: Civil War is released. It FEELS like it's around the corner, but it kind of isn't. We still have a few movies to plow through.
The Jungle Book will no doubt be a hit. Barbershop will succeed with it's target audience. The Huntsman 2, which is essentially Frozen for adults, may or may not do well. It's too soon to tell. The same can be said for Keanu. So there's still some money to be made for Batman v Superman and Zootopia. That March release date was a stroke of luck.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 7, 2016 18:26:24 GMT -5
They're going to release fewer movies and those they do release are just going to be tentpole behemoths. But they have to be worried about the direction of DC. Even among the people who will 'watch any comic book movie no matter what' they will only be taken for a ride so many times before they say 'ah eff it I can wait for Marvel.'
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Post by Neverending on Apr 7, 2016 19:07:28 GMT -5
They're going to release fewer movies and those they do release are just going to be tentpole behemoths. Warner Bros. is being rescued by the system they created - but they're also not learning from it. Tim Burton's Batman opened on June 23rd of 1989 with $40 million. That was INSANE back then. The following weekend, which was extended by the 4th of July, it made $43.4 million. Even today, it's unheard of for a movie to break an opening weekend record and then make MORE money in its second weekend - holiday or not. TWO days later, Warner Bros. released Lethal Weapon 2. It dethroned Batman and was the #1 movie for 3 weeks and then made steady money though the remainder of the summer. Believe it or not, back then, people liked Lethal Weapon more than Batman. It had WAY better legs. Batman, like most modern day blockbusters, was front-loaded. It was MASSIVE for a weekend or two and then fizzled out. And it didn't matter because it made enough money during those couple of weeks to help it become the year's top grosser. 27 years later, Batman v Superman is benefiting from that system. BUT - what happens when people don't like the movie? You're seeing it now with Batman v Superman. It's not gonna make a profit in spite of big box office numbers. So how do you fix your financial books? You need a Lethal Weapon 2. You need that movie, with a reasonable budget, that's gonna play for several weeks and let the cash flow in. Disney is doing it right now as we speak. Jungle Book will make money for 2 weeks and then disappear when Captain America: Civil War is released. But that's okay because Zootopia has quietly been making money for 6 weeks. So while Warner Bros. is losing money and has to cut back on their slate, Disney is making a shit ton of money and is increasing their slate.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 7, 2016 21:02:22 GMT -5
They're going to release fewer movies and those they do release are just going to be tentpole behemoths. Tim Burton's Batman opened on June 23rd of 1989 with $40 million. That was INSANE back then. The following weekend, which was extended by the 4th of July, it made $43.4 million. Even today, it's unheard of for a movie to break an opening weekend record and then make MORE money in its second weekend - holiday or not. TWO days later, Warner Bros. released Lethal Weapon 2. It dethroned Batman and was the #1 movie for 3 weeks and then made steady money though the remainder of the summer. Believe it or not, back then, people liked Lethal Weapon more than Batman. It had WAY better legs. Batman, like most modern day blockbusters, was front-loaded. It was MASSIVE for a weekend or two and then fizzled out. And it didn't matter because it made enough money during those couple of weeks to help it become the year's top grosser. That is an exaggeration at best. Batman made almost as much in its third weekend as Lethal Weapon did, it was less than a million dollars between them. They were close in all three of the weekends Lethal Weapon was at number one and they were basically neck and neck (with Lethal Weapon having a slight edge) in every week they competed with one another from there. In other words, after Batman had its two crazy opening weekends it ended up have about the same dropoff that any other movie had... just with those extra two record setting weekends to bolster its revenue.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 7, 2016 22:56:29 GMT -5
That is an exaggeration at best. Yes and no. By Labor Day weekend, which is officially the conclusion of the summer movie season, Lethal Weapon 2 was still selling over a million tickets. Batman was down to 891,000 tickets. A month later, Lethal Weapon 2 was still playing in over a thousand screens. Batman, however, seems to have gotten a second life in the dollar theaters. It concluded its theatrical run in December - even though the movie was already out on VHS. Lethal Weapon 2, for whatever reason, is missing data. Its last reported box office is on October 9th. It was ranking at #11 and playing in over 900 screens. Most likely, it played throughout October and then went to the dollar theaters in November. It probably ended its run around the same time as Batman. So unless we can find a newspaper, magazine or TV news segment from early 1990, Lethal Weapon 2's online data is incomplete. All we know is that it grossed $147 million from July to October 1989. That's $322.6 million in 2016 dollar which is, more or less, what Zootopia will end up grossing. So my comparison to Zootopia is still valid. They're both movies with a reasonable budget that played for a long time and made money for the studio. It was Warner Bros. second biggest hit of the year. If Batman had flopped, they would have used Lethal Weapon 2 to fix the financial books. Right now, Warner Bros. has no Lethal Weapon 2. Their second biggest hit right now is How to Be Single which only grossed $46.7 million. They do have Barbershop 3 and Keanu opening this movie, but neither are blockbusters. The Nice Guys, Me Before You, The Conjuring 2 and Central Intelligence are all counter-programming for the summer. So, REALLY, their next blockbuster isn't until July when Tarzan opens opposite Steven Spielberg's The BFG. Which do you think will be #1? Then, they have Light's Out, another counter-programmer, and FINALLY the Suicide Squad. So Doomsday is right. Warner Bros. is only relying on tentpoles. That's not smart business. They waste money on counter-programming, hoping something will stick, and then gamble on big-budget films. They need to go back to the Batman/Lethal Weapon 2 model: big blockbuster and little blockbuster and maybe a mid-sized blockbuster. That's what Disney is doing. Zootopia is a little blockbuster, Jungle Book is a mid-sized blockbuster and Captain America: Civil War is a big blockbuster. Then they have Alice 2, Finding Dory, The BFG and Pete's Dragon as their safe gambles. Any of those movies can flop, or under-perform, and they'll be okay because their 3 main movies did the heavy-lifting.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 11, 2016 17:34:06 GMT -5
This morning, Doomsday, SnoBorderZero and FShuttari woke up and felt great. The sun was out, birds were singing and love was in the air. Then they found out that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was no longer the #1 movie in North America. Could this day get any better? Let's ask PhantomKnight because the NEW #1 movie is Melissa McCarthy's The Boss with $23.5 million. But the R-rated movie isn't far ahead. Batman vs Superman grossed $23.3 million. It was a very close race and that has to be a major disappointment for Warner Bros. Right now, it's very unlikely that Batman vs Superman will reach $400 million domestically. It'll be lucky to surpass Deadpool. Worldwide, things are looking better. It'll reach the $800 million needed to break even but $1 billion isn't certain yet. Ouch! Suicide Squad better not fuck up. Opening on Friday is The Jungle Book which Disney has already started releasing in foreign markets. So far, it has grossed $28.9 million internationally. Universal is also trying to get a headstart before Captain America and began releasing The Huntsman in foreign territories. Internationally, it has grossed $19.1 million so far.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 11, 2016 18:44:47 GMT -5
Opening on Friday is The Jungle Book which Disney has already started releasing in foreign markets. So far, it has grossed $28.9 million internationally. Jungle Book 2 is already in the works.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 18, 2016 16:09:20 GMT -5
Final numbers are in. Disney's live-action remake of The Jungle Book opened to $103.2 million domestically and almost $300 million worldwide. I bet Dracula is scratching his head right now. Compared to Disney's other live-action remakes, it's below Alice in Wonderland but above Oz, Maleficent and Cinderella. The movie is expected to be #1 until Captain America: Civil War opens, so Disney has another Zootopia on its hands. Speaking of Zootopia, the film has grossed $307.3 million domestically and its on its way to $900 million worldwide. Can it reach $1 billion before the summer rush begins? Stay tuned. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, by contrast, is running on low fuel. Having already opened in most markets, it's limping it's way to $900 million worldwide. It definitely won't gross $1 billion. It's also unlikely to surpass Deadpool at the domestic box office. Deadpool is at $360 million and Batman vs Superman is at $311.3 million. Either way you slice it, Warner Bros MUST be disappointed. Opening on Friday is The Huntsman, which has already grossed $43 million internationally. It's expected to under-perform, especially in the aftermath of The Jungle Book. You can definitely declare that Chris Hemsworth's career is over. Marvel will keep him employed and MAYBE a great director will rescue him at some point.
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 18, 2016 17:50:45 GMT -5
Final numbers are in. Disney's live-action remake of The Jungle Book opened to $103.2 million domestically and almost $300 million worldwide. I bet Dracula is scratching his head right now. Compared to Disney's other live-action remakes, it's below Alice in Wonderland but above Oz, Maleficent and Cinderella. The movie is expected to be #1 until Captain America: Civil War opens, so Disney has another Zootopia on its hands. I've been pretty disinterested in the whole live action fairy tale thing and I know I said I'd probably wait to see this on DVD but the reviews have been very good. Plus my last exam is on Thursday so I'll probably want to award myself. I'm curious how the rest of the year's superhero films will fare. He's a Ghostbuster too apparently.
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Post by Neverending on Apr 18, 2016 18:45:06 GMT -5
I'm curious how the rest of the year's superhero films will fare. Captain America: Civil War will be HUGE - possibly the biggest movie of the year unless Rogue One catches on. X-Men: Apocalypse will do standard X-Men business. The general public isn't a huge fan of this franchise. TMNT: Out of the Shadows will possibly be more successful than the first. Suicide Squad remains in limbo. Doctor Strange may survive thanks to the Marvel brand.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Apr 19, 2016 19:50:25 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that Civil War is tracking to beat Batman v Superman at the box office. Even in my most pessimistic speculations about how bad BvS would be, I was sure that it would reign as the top comic book movie of 2016. There was no way it wouldn't manage to break $1 billion, but now it looks like they'll be lucky if they can limp along to $900 million. For a film that needed $800 million just to break even, that's kinda pathetic.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 19, 2016 20:16:38 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that Civil War is tracking to beat Batman v Superman at the box office. Even in my most pessimistic speculations about how bad BvS would be, I was sure that it would reign as the top comic book movie of 2016. There was no way it wouldn't manage to break $1 billion, but now it looks like they'll be lucky if they can limp along to $900 million. For a film that needed $800 million just to break even, that's kinda pathetic. Not too surprising to me. If Iron Man 3 (a forgettable movie if ever there was one) could make well over a hundred million more than Man of Steel and The Avengers could make $175 million more than The Dark Knight Rises it's pretty clear that Marvel is always going to have the advantage in this genre for the foreseeable future.
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Post by RedVader on Apr 19, 2016 23:31:43 GMT -5
Your Forgetting Star Trek Beyond, and Independency Day 2. Those could do good buisness. Other from the List I think too be honest Suicide Squad and Civil War will do the most comic wise. Dr Strange Could Be Cool But I dont see it doing more then Cap 1 area but should make more then Ant Man.
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