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Post by Wyldstaar on Jun 15, 2015 21:31:58 GMT -5
And people say theater-going is dead... Yeah, I don't know where this notion comes from, other than people in the media making up stories to suit the narrative they're looking to tell. There weren't any movie theaters near my home when I was growing up. Now there are two within just a couple minutes drive. Sure, some of the movie theaters throughout town have closed down, but this has always been the result of competition from newer theaters with bigger screens, better projectors and nicer seats opening nearby. The ones that have endured are the ones that upgraded to meet modern standards. Now the Alamo Draft House and it's clones are expanding the movie market even further, but don't seem to be hurting the regular theaters in the process so far. As convenient as watching movies at home is, people don't want to stay at home all the time. We want to go out and do something as part of our community, even if we don't generally think of it that way. People feel compelled to get out of the house, even if it's to do something they could do far cheaper at home, like having dinner or watching a movie. I don't know if it's human nature, the structure of our society or a combination of both, but either way this isn't something that's going to change any time soon.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 15, 2015 21:45:44 GMT -5
I don't know where this notion comes from Attendance has been down throughout the entire 21st century. The biggest movie of 1999 was Star Wars: The Phantom Menace and it sold 84.8 million tickets. The Avengers, "the most successful movie not directed by James Cameron", sold 76.7 million tickets in 2012. The numbers don't lie.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jun 15, 2015 22:32:10 GMT -5
I don't know where this notion comes from Attendance has been down throughout the entire 21st century. The biggest movie of 1999 was Star Wars: The Phantom Menace and it sold 84.8 million tickets. The Avengers, "the most successful movie not directed by James Cameron", sold 76.7 million tickets in 2012. The numbers don't lie. There's a big difference between going dead and a natural fluctuation in sales due to changes in how people enjoy media. There's a massive difference between how the internet influenced the way people experience movies between 1999 and 2012. Ticket sales shrank with the advent of the TV too, but that didn't mean the death of cinema (although I'm sure there was no lack of reporters willing to predict certain doom for the movie industry at the time).
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Post by Neverending on Jun 15, 2015 23:01:25 GMT -5
Ticket sales shrank with the advent of the TV too, but that didn't mean the death of cinema. You know how many tickets Gone with the Wind sold? 202 million. If The Avengers selling 76.7 million tickets translated to $623.3 million (and that includes 3D and IMAX premium prices), imagine what 202 million tickets would mean? The reason why TV didn't kill cinemas is because they joined forces. Hollywood realized that they could make money by selling their movies to television. Then came VHS and DVD and Blu-Ray and now video-on-demand and streaming. That's all part of television. And why didn't the Internet kill cinema? Again. iTunes. Amazon. Etc. Cinema survives because they follow a simple rule: "if you can't beat them, join them." But that won't change the fact that every year there's less people paying to watch movies at the theater. The giant blockbusters will always be around, but the indie black & white movie with subtitles won't make a cent. People will just wait for Netflix. The viewing habits of theatergoers has changed in the 21st century. I bet your Alamo Theater would never screen the modern equivalent of Reservoir Dogs or El Mariachi or Clerks. All those movies have to depend on Netflix now. Things change, man.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jun 16, 2015 16:55:52 GMT -5
The number of 202 million tickets is accurate, but has to be taken in context. Gone With The Wind was originally released in 1939, and enjoyed being continually released in theaters until it began to be aired on TV in 1956. Even then, the film still enjoyed nationwide re-releases in theaters every few years since watching the film on a black & white television with less than perfect reception just doesn't compare to seeing it on the big screen in color. That number reflects ticket sales over the entire lengthy span of it's illustrious existence.
As for the Alamo Drafthouse, they not only play indie films, but own a distribution company for them called Drafthouse Films.
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Post by Jibbs on Jun 16, 2015 22:40:40 GMT -5
My god that San Diego sequence was terrible. Nothing in III approached that level of terrible. My god that San Diego sequence was terrible. Nothing in III approached that level of terrible.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 17, 2015 13:11:40 GMT -5
THIS WEEK IN BOX OFFICE HISTORY10 years ago, Christopher Nolan resurrected Batman from the dead with the successful release of Batman Begins. It opened on a Wednesday and grossed a 5-day total of $72.8 million. A prepubescent PG Cooper rejoiced but a post-teenage Doomsday found a new enemy in a British-born-but-Chicago-raised filmmaker. 15 years ago, Minnesota rap fan, Dracula , was thrilled to see Busta Rhymes in the Samuel L. Jackson reboot of Shaft. Shaft may be a bad mother - shut your mouth - but that did not translate to a box office victory. The movie did open at #1, but it only grossed $21.7 million which was mediocre even for the year 2000. There has been no more Shaft movies since then but the actor who played the villain, Christian Bale, did go on to better things. 20 years ago, Joel Schumacher brought his version of Batman to the big screen and people... didn't hate it. Wyldstaar and other fanboys like to re-write history but the truth is that Batman Forever was a HUGE hit. It was the #1 movie of the summer and the #2 movie of the year. It grossed a modern day equivalent of $343.5 million domestically. To put it in more specific terms, that's only $7 million less than Furious 7. 25 years ago, Warren Beatty tried to replicate the success of Batman (1989) with Dick Tracy but failed. Dick Tracy was the 9th highest grossing film of 1990 with a modern day equivalent of nearly $200 million domestically but considering it didn't live up to the hype, it was considered a disappointment. A good comparison is the Godzilla movie from last year. Also released 25 years ago was Gremlins 2: The New Batch. Despite being championed by thebtskink , it flopped at the box office and we're now dreading the news of a possible remake. 30 years ago, Ron Howard's Cocoon FINALLY stopped Rambo's dominance of the box office. The only blockbuster to ever star old people dethroned Sylvester Stallone. Ironic. EDIT: Also opening 30 years ago was the nightmare-inducing Return to Oz.
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 17, 2015 13:51:13 GMT -5
I remember seeing Batman Forever and having it quickly become my all time favorite movie until I watched Batman again a few days later.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 17, 2015 14:14:28 GMT -5
I remember seeing Batman Forever and having it quickly become my all time favorite movie until I watched Batman again a few days later. I was on a Jim Carrey high when Batman Forever was released. It came out after Ace Ventura, The Mask and Dumb & Dumber and before Ace Ventura 2, The Cable Guy, Liar Liar, The Truman Show, Man on the Moon and Me Myself & Irene. I think The Grinch broke the Jim Carrey spell. So for about 5 years Batman Forever was probably my favorite Batman movie. I watched all three movies as often as I could so it's difficult to say for sure. And I know that sounds stupid in 2015 but you were alive in 1995. You too were caught up in the Jim Carrey momentum and loved stuff like this:
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Post by FShuttari on Jun 17, 2015 14:23:52 GMT -5
Ohh "Batman Forever" Nostalgia... That is a good movie to watch while high...
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Post by thebtskink on Jun 17, 2015 14:25:05 GMT -5
Gremlins 2 rules.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 17, 2015 14:27:07 GMT -5
Ohh "Batman Forever" Nostalgia... That is a good movie to watch while high... Are you sure? Tommy Lee Jones' face might make you freak out. It's better than the original.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 17, 2015 14:55:09 GMT -5
Jurassic World continues to make a shitload of money.
It grossed $25.3 million on Monday and $24.3 million on Tuesday. In total, the movie has grossed $258.4 million.
Again, kids being on summer vacation is helping a lot. This is a movie that children and teenagers are enjoying a lot.
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Post by Fanible on Jun 17, 2015 17:33:03 GMT -5
I hate kids.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Jun 17, 2015 18:09:24 GMT -5
Wyldstaar and other fanboys like to re-write history but the truth is that Batman Forever was a HUGE hit. EDIT: Also opening 30 years ago was the nightmare-inducing Return to Oz. I don't recall ever saying that Batman Forever didn't perform at the box office. I simply stated that I didn't like it. Batman: The Animated Series introduced me to Two-Face as a tragic character that deserved a shot in the movies, and Schumacher just crapped all over him. Then he did the same to Mr. Freeze a couple years later. Kids movies in the 80's seemed to have a goal of giving children nightmares. The Dark Crystal with their freaky looking vulture monsters who turned cute little villagers into drooling zombie slaves. Gremlins with adorable teddy bears that transform into monsters and a pretty girl who transforms a tale about her father dressing up as Santa into a lifetime of trauma. Strapping Dorothy down and giving her electro-shock therapy for talking about Oz to Aunt Em, and pretty much every scene that followed scarred many young minds for life. Time Bandits, Watership Down, The Black Cauldron... heaven forbid kids have something pleasant to distract them from the real life threat of nuclear annihilation for two hours!
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Post by IanTheCool on Jun 17, 2015 19:12:59 GMT -5
Because they go see a movie about Dinosaurs??
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Post by Jibbs on Jun 17, 2015 19:21:41 GMT -5
No, because they're noisy, they're messy, and they smell.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jun 17, 2015 20:44:03 GMT -5
They don't smell.
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Post by Jibbs on Jun 17, 2015 21:12:12 GMT -5
Some of them smell! Babies smell!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 21:33:47 GMT -5
No, they all smell.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jun 17, 2015 21:45:05 GMT -5
Some of them smell! Babies smell! I love it when a plan comes together.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 18, 2015 15:53:05 GMT -5
Because they go see a movie about Dinosaurs?? No, because they're noisy, they're messy, and they smell.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 19, 2015 15:22:38 GMT -5
Jurassic World
Wednesday - $19.8 million Thursday - $17.8 million
New total - $296.2 million domestic / $695.4 million worldwide
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Post by Doomsday on Jun 19, 2015 15:26:17 GMT -5
Hopefully they head over to Jurassic World again so I can see Inside Out in relative peace.
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Post by Neverending on Jun 19, 2015 15:54:36 GMT -5
Hopefully they head over to Jurassic World again so I can see Inside Out in relative peace. Both movies will be neck and neck this weekend.
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