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Post by Jibbs on Jul 6, 2015 18:01:46 GMT -5
I'll always have a soft spot for the Jaws romance. It's hilarious. Bond rapes a girl. Literally. Bond does not literally rape a girl. You really love bringing that up. |
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 12, 2015 15:27:45 GMT -5
The Skyfall one is pretty generic but otherwise those are pretty cool. I dig the From Russia, With Love one.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 13, 2015 7:48:24 GMT -5
I really like the From Russia with Love poster and the Live and Let Die one.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 24, 2015 18:42:25 GMT -5
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
After the incredibly over-the-top Third Act of Moonraker, the James Bond franchise clearly needed some grounding, and that's precisely what For Your Eyes Only does. No space-driven shenanigans this time, just your standard kind of Bond fare for the most part, but at least it's one of the more enjoyable examples of that.
Sort of to lead into my opinion of this film, I've been finding that the deeper I get into this series, the higher my opinion of Goldfinger (the third Bond movie) gets. I've been thinking about why that is, and I've decided it's because while a few of the Bond films since Goldfinger have attempted to be as grounded as that film was, Goldfinger remains the prime example of the more grounded Bond film within these first few decades of the franchise. For Your Eyes Only does a respectable job of trying to capture that tone, but man, it also just makes the awesomeness of Goldfinger that much more obvious to me now.
Once again, the plot involves a lot of the usual tropes, i.e. powerful weapons or access to powerful weapons being sought out by the villains, and Bond has to stop them from using them. I'll admit I'm getting a little tired of that setup, but on the other hand, I realize it's sort of necessary for the types of films these are. But the main thing that keeps For Your Eyes Only good is the execution. There's a pretty nice energy to this movie that keeps things lively and entertaining, with some decent action sequences sprinkled throughout. Although, I will say I wasn't a fan of the opening sequence; it honestly made me a little worried for what was to come, but fortunately, the rest of the movie was better.
By this point, Roger Moore is clearly starting to get past his prime as an action star, and with two movies with him left to go, I can only imagine that'll get worse. Building off that, I think I'm ready for a change in actor. I've enjoyed Moore as Bond overall, but his portrayal is starting to show signs of wear and tear by this point.
A lot of people seem to be big on For Your Eyes Only, and while I definitely liked it, I don't think it really measures up to something like Goldfinger.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 24, 2015 19:47:47 GMT -5
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
Sort of to lead into my opinion of this film, I've been finding that the deeper I get into this series, the higher my opinion of Goldfinger (the third Bond movie) gets. I've been thinking about why that is, and I've decided it's because while a few of the Bond films since Goldfinger have attempted to be as grounded as that film was, Goldfinger remains the prime example of the more grounded Bond film within these first few decades of the franchise.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 24, 2015 20:16:23 GMT -5
The deeper I get into this series, the higher my opinion of Goldfinger (the third Bond movie) gets. I think that's the case with everyone. lol. Um... what? There's nothing "grounded" about Goldfinger. The villain's scheme is to break into Fort Knox and unleash a radioactive bomb. lol. These are totally different movies. No! That was the best scene! And hilariously, Blofeld's last appearance in the series until this year. If you had more knowledge about the behind-the-scenes of these movies, you'll appreciate that opening. Also, you better not skip Never Say Never Again because I will hunt you down and tie you to a chair and force you to watch it. You'll notice more stunt doubles from now on. lol. That's an odd reaction because this is when Roger Moore finally becomes comfortable in the role. Yeah... he's too old for the action scenes and to have sex with women who could be his daughter, but the humor "and drama" are at their best in these last three movies. In this movie, the scene where he kicks the car off the cliff is one of the highlights of Moore's tenure. I've never been a HUGE fan either, but I understand why people consider this a Top 10 in the series. It's the first movie in the series that kind-of has a real world feel to it because it's not overly stylized and isn't overly outlandish either. Plus, the revenge plot with the Bond girl gives audiences something to get emotionally invested in. And it has a nice mixture of seriousness and humor. |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 24, 2015 20:21:34 GMT -5
The opening scene is amusing from a detached perspective, but it tonally clashes with the rest of the film.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 24, 2015 20:30:52 GMT -5
The opening scene is amusing from a detached perspective, but it tonally clashes with the rest of the film. Not really. It's the pre-title scene. If it were the middle of the movie, I would agree with you. Speaking of credits, PhantomKnight failed to mention that this is the ONLY time we see the singer in the credits: |
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 24, 2015 20:34:54 GMT -5
The opening is one of the best. Great stunt.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2015 21:11:00 GMT -5
That is bad advice. I'm one of the biggest Bond fans there is and even I was only able to sit through something like fifteen minutes of that movie before I dismissed it as heresy and turned it off. BTW, you can thank Never Say Never Again for Roger Moore sticking around far past his sell-by date. It was coming out the same year as Octopussy and the producers knew that it would be very hard to explain to the public that theirs was the "real" James Bond that year if they were trying to introduce a new actor and put him head to head against Sean Connery. Then again, the dude they were auditioning for the part was James Brolin of all people, so maybe it was a blessing in disguise. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 24, 2015 21:25:39 GMT -5
That is bad advice. I'm one of the biggest Bond fans there is and even I was only able to sit through something like fifteen minutes of that movie before I dismissed it as heresy and turned it off. Considering your hatred for the Daniel Craig movies, I understand why you dismiss Never Say Never Again. It's not an official Bond movie and features none of the signature Bond stuff. But it does star Sean Connery, who kicks ass in the role, Barbara Carrera delivering the best female performance in ANY Bond movie, and Irvin Kershner (of Star Wars fame) in the director's chair. You should give it a second chance. I can guarantee it's at least better than Quantum of Solace. That... might be okay. They were gonna hire James Brolin to replace him. A young Sam Neill was also up for consideration, and I thought he did really well in his audition video, but who knows how dramatically that would have altered Bond history. I think I'm fine with how things turned out. Ideally, I would have preferred Pierce Brosnan for The Living Daylights - even if that compromised GoldenEye - but it could have been better in the long run. I don't think the legal battles of the early 90's would have paused the franchise if the series was still making big money. We could have gotten Bond movies in 87, 89, 91, 93, 95, 97 and then wrapped the Brosnan era in 99. Then introduce a new Bond in 2002 for the 40th anniversary. That, of course, would have eliminated the Daniel Craig era, but something tells me you're okay with that. Wanna build a time machine? lol. |
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 24, 2015 23:11:12 GMT -5
To answer PG Cooper and Neverending's question about my referring to this and Goldfinger as being more "grounded": perhaps grounded wasn't the right word. What I meant was that while those two movies obviously have a few of the usual over-the-top Bond elements, the overall tone of both is such that they never FEEL too over-the-top, Goldfinger being the better example of that. That movie and For Your Eyes Only may have silly stuff in them, but in both cases, it's never distractingly silly. That's one of the main reasons I've been liking the Daniel Craig era so much, and it looks like Spectre will be in the tradition of those two movies, i.e. "being Bond" but still making sure the silliness is kept in check.
And yes, Neverending, Never Say Never Again will be next in line for me after Octopussy, which should be arriving tomorrow from Netflix. |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 25, 2015 18:01:46 GMT -5
And yes, Neverending, Never Say Never Again will be next in line for me after Octopussy, which should be arriving tomorrow from Netflix.  |
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jul 27, 2015 11:05:24 GMT -5
I can't remember if "Never Say Never Again" is better than "Quantum of Solace", they're both among the most forgettable entries. Connery is good in it, but the rest of the film is just missing everything else that makes it Bond. The stupid computer game he plays against the villain is pure 80's cheese, and the cast is basically wasted. "Octopussy" was the better Bond film of 1983.
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 27, 2015 18:34:25 GMT -5
Never Say Never Again is an abomination. Don't compare it to Quantum of Solace.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2015 18:53:10 GMT -5
And yes, Neverending, Never Say Never Again will be next in line for me after Octopussy, which should be arriving tomorrow from Netflix. I can't remember if "Never Say Never Again" is better than "Quantum of Solace", they're both among the most forgettable entries. Never Say Never Again is an abomination. Don't compare it to Quantum of Solace. While the rehashed story feels rather uninspired and unnecessary, the return of both Sean Connery and a more understated Bond make Never Say Never Again a watchable retread. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/octopussy/42%5.2/10Critics Consensus: Despite a couple of electrifying action sequences, Octopussy is a formulaic, anachronistic Bond outing. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/quantum_of_solace/65%6.1/10Critics Consensus: Brutal and breathless, Quantum Of Solace delivers tender emotions along with frenetic action. Not as good as franchise reboot Casino Royale, but still an impressive entry to the Bond canon. IMDbNever Say Never Again - 6.2/10 from 44,423 users Octopussy - 6.6/10 from 66,647 users Quantum of Solace - 6.7/10 from 284,811 users |
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Post by Jibbs on Jul 27, 2015 19:12:39 GMT -5
And somehow, my fact hasn't changed.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 27, 2015 19:18:45 GMT -5
And yes, Neverending, Never Say Never Again will be next in line for me after Octopussy, which should be arriving tomorrow from Netflix. I can't remember if "Never Say Never Again" is better than "Quantum of Solace", they're both among the most forgettable entries. Never Say Never Again is an abomination. Don't compare it to Quantum of Solace. While the rehashed story feels rather uninspired and unnecessary, the return of both Sean Connery and a more understated Bond make Never Say Never Again a watchable retread. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/octopussy/42%5.2/10Critics Consensus: Despite a couple of electrifying action sequences, Octopussy is a formulaic, anachronistic Bond outing. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/quantum_of_solace/65%6.1/10Critics Consensus: Brutal and breathless, Quantum Of Solace delivers tender emotions along with frenetic action. Not as good as franchise reboot Casino Royale, but still an impressive entry to the Bond canon. IMDbNever Say Never Again - 6.2/10 from 44,423 users Octopussy - 6.6/10 from 66,647 users Quantum of Solace - 6.7/10 from 284,811 users RT scores for movies made before at least 1998 are pretty much meaningless... also those critics probably aren't judging those movies correctly. Judged objectively it's entirely possible that NSNA actually is better than Octopussy, but as a Bond movie it's undoubtedly inferior. Quantum of Solace is even worse because I can't just pretend it doesn't exist. |
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Post by Dracula on Jul 27, 2015 20:10:19 GMT -5
Roger Ebert was many things but he was decidedly not an authority on the James Bond franchise. Dude gave three stars to Diamonds Are Forever and Moonraker, two stars to For Your Eyes Only and Living Daylights, thought The World is Not Enough was the best Brosnan film. www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/44866/roger-eberts-007-reviews-compilation/ |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2015 20:17:58 GMT -5
Roger Ebert was many things but he was decidedly not an authority on the James Bond franchise. Even though he was a first generation fan? |
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Post by Neverending on Jul 27, 2015 20:19:25 GMT -5
DraculaSiskel and Ebert devoted an entire episode to James Bond in 1983
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