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Post by IanTheCool on Dec 13, 2016 19:44:53 GMT -5
Or what about that figure skating girl?
I don't think the bad Moore Bonds were entertaining, you guys are crazy. The movies are too damn long to be overly entertaining.
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Post by Dracula on Dec 13, 2016 20:21:07 GMT -5
Or what about that figure skating girl? I don't think the bad Moore Bonds were entertaining, you guys are crazy. The movies are too damn long to be overly entertaining. Not a Bond Girl, they never smashed. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 13, 2016 20:51:07 GMT -5
I'll stop you right there. There has never been a truly awful James Bond movie. If you believe that, then you aren't a real fan. Uh, what a load of fanboy nonsense. |
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Post by Neverending on Dec 13, 2016 20:53:54 GMT -5
Or what about that figure skating girl? She was ridiculous within the context of the movie and Bond was mature enough not to fuck her. |
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Post by Neverending on Jan 14, 2017 19:30:09 GMT -5
Can we talk about Daniel Craig?
Remember when Batman Begins came out and everyone was like, "best Batman ever." Flash forward to Dark Knight Rises and everyone is like, "nevermind. Keaton still the best."
Do people still give a shit about Craig? Has the goodwill from Casino Royale finally ended? Are we back to Camp Connery?
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Post by Jibbs on Jan 14, 2017 23:55:11 GMT -5
I never called him the best. I still can't figure out how people turned on Brosnan so fast.
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Post by Deexan on Jan 15, 2017 0:07:59 GMT -5
I still can't figure out how people turned on Brosnan so fast. I think this may be why: |
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Post by Neverending on Jan 15, 2017 1:01:04 GMT -5
I still can't figure out how people turned on Brosnan so fast. GoldenEye is more famous for being a video game than for being a movie. He had the cards stacked against him. |
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Post by thebtskink on Jan 15, 2017 10:56:24 GMT -5
Flash forward to Dark Knight Rises and everyone is like, "nevermind. Keaton still the best." Wait, what? 1) Bale 2) Conroy 3) Keaton 4) Kilmer 5) West 6) Being dissolved alive in a vat of hydroflouric acid 7) Clooney |
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Post by PG Cooper on Jan 15, 2017 15:43:50 GMT -5
Flash forward to Dark Knight Rises and everyone is like, "nevermind. Keaton still the best." Wait, what? 1) Bale 2) Conroy 3) Keaton 4) Kilmer 5) West 6) Being dissolved alive in a vat of hydroflouric acid 7) Clooney People jump on Bale for the gravelly voice. It's an element that most of us have long accepted but for many others that shit is still a deal-breaker. |
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 15, 2017 20:50:29 GMT -5
I thought Bale was the best in Dark Knight Rises.
And over time I realized that it's less on Bale and more on the fact that the dialogue written for Batman is god-awful. I'm still convinced that one person wrote all the villain dialogue and another person wrote all Batman's dialogue. There's no way that the same person who wrote all the great Joker lines wrote the laughable, painfully bad Batman ones.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 16, 2017 1:07:24 GMT -5
I thought Bale was the best in Dark Knight Rises. And over time I realized that it's less on Bale and more on the fact that the dialogue written for Batman is god-awful. I'm still convinced that one person wrote all the villain dialogue and another person wrote all Batman's dialogue. There's no way that the same person who wrote all the great Joker lines wrote the laughable, painfully bad Batman ones. Well... there were three writers: Nolan, his brother and David Goyer. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Jan 16, 2017 20:48:28 GMT -5
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The World is Not Enough I was expecting World is Not Enough to be truly awful. I guess I just associated the non-Goldeneye Brosnan films as being trash. This wasn't that. It also wasn't entirely compelling either. The movie is about someone stealing a nuke to put on their sub and blow up Istanbul, or something. As far as evil schemes go, its not quite destroying the gold in Fort Knox. But its really just an excuse for some set pieces involving odd vehicles, such as spy boats, weird parachuting skidoos, a hot air balloon, and some sort of pipeline sled? I guess the biggest problem I had with TWINE is that its pretty dull and uninteresting. Maybe its because Brosnan's Bond is pretty much a cardboard cut out with some cheesy lines here and there ("See you at the lodge!"). i did like Sophie Marceau but the twist with her character wasn't exactly mind-bending. Denise Richards as Lara Croft: Nuclear Scientist was good for a chuckle. But this is very much in the category of forgettable action movies. 5/10 Only one more left!
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 16, 2017 20:55:53 GMT -5
TWINE might be my least favorite Bond movie. It was the only one where I walked out of the theater feeling legitimately disappointed and I was 14 when it came out, you're supposed to like everything when you're 14.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 16, 2017 21:51:55 GMT -5
TWINE might be my least favorite Bond movie. It was the only one where I walked out of the theater feeling legitimately disappointed and I was 14 when it came out, you're supposed to like everything when you're 14. It still bothers me that World Is Not Enough and Sleepy Hollow were released on the same weekend. Why is Hollywood testing my loyalty? |
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Post by Dracula on Jan 16, 2017 22:03:54 GMT -5
To me TWINE is solidly middle of the pack in the Bond franchise, not sure I understand strong feelings about it one way or the other.
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Post by Jibbs on Jan 17, 2017 0:25:23 GMT -5
Yeah, TWINE is fine.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jan 17, 2017 12:39:28 GMT -5
Haven't seen it since 1999. One of the few things I remember was the villain taking a smoldering rock and shoving it in some guy's hands.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 17, 2017 17:41:09 GMT -5
To me TWINE is solidly middle of the pack in the Bond franchise, not sure I understand strong feelings about it one way or the other. TWINE is one of those movies that's easy to hate. Just like Avatar is Dances with Smurfs and The Force Awakens is a New Hope remake. They cast Denise Richards as Christmas Jones and that's all the ammunition people need. Even though the character isn't really a big part of the movie. Elektra King (Sophie What's Her Face) is the actual Bond girl in the movie and the story is basically a reverse OHMSS. |
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Post by Dracula on Jan 17, 2017 17:57:56 GMT -5
To me TWINE is solidly middle of the pack in the Bond franchise, not sure I understand strong feelings about it one way or the other. They cast Denise Richards as Christmas Jones and that's all the ammunition people need. Even though the character isn't really a big part of the movie. Have these people seen a Bond movie before? Most of the Bond girls are more or less like that. |
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Post by Neverending on Jan 17, 2017 18:05:53 GMT -5
They cast Denise Richards as Christmas Jones and that's all the ammunition people need. Even though the character isn't really a big part of the movie. Have these people seen a Bond movie before? Most of the Bond girls are more or less like that. Most Bond girls are European models people don't know by name. Denise Richards was coming from Starship Troopers and Wild Thing. They should have known people were gonna roast them. |
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 2, 2017 19:26:21 GMT -5
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Die Another Day Well, I've now seen all of the Bond movies. And what a masterpiece to cap it off with. Die Another Day is really ridiculous. Really ridiculous. Though to its credit, its not as boring as its two preceding film. I'm not cutting it any slack for that however. Where to start? Perhaps with one of the worst title songs in the series, and probably THE worst opening credits sequence. Then there's the "cool vehicle" concepts that reach new levels of ludicrousness with the surfing boards (serious, how far out did they start surfing in from??) to the ice roaster to those weird skydiving plane board thingies. oh wait, I almost forgot the invisible car! Speaking of ludicrous, the less said about "DNA transplants" the better. I thought this movie was really poorly directed. So many awkward pace and tone shifts. Like when Bond was remembering his captivity: are we supposed to feel like that's deep? Kinda hard to do in a movie which has a massive sun-death ray able to target people from space, or actually uses the idea of transplanting someone's DNA (oh damn, I already forgot... less said...) Meanwhile, we get these random slow-motion shots in the action scenes. And we get "London Calling" playing over the scene of someone skydiving into Buckingham Palace. Yup... Halle Berry. Okay, its clear she was trying for something different, but wow did she ever feel like she was in a completely different movie than everyone else. Wow. Also, wasn't the dialogue in this film just terrible? The sexual innuendo was so ridiculously broad. "Is he showing you his Big Band Theory?" "I think I get the thrust of it." Subtle ladies, subtle. Oh and hey, how about those virtual reality goggles? 3/10
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 2, 2017 19:32:13 GMT -5
I don't really disagree with most of what you wrote but...I don't hate the movie.
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Post by Dracula on Feb 2, 2017 19:41:29 GMT -5
It's supposed to be ridiculous. You really think anyone made a movie like that expecting you to think it was deep drama or something? No, it's meant to be this over the top tribute to the Roger Moore era done using modern techniques. That's not to say there aren't bad things in it (the CGI sucks and the tone is a bit out of place in the first twenty minutes or so) but to complain the sun laser is to miss the point.
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