PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 3, 2017 23:48:43 GMT -5
Film Four: SpellboundSpellbound has a high pedigree but it doesn't really live up to it. What hurts the film is quite simply that it's boring. The central mystery/wrong-man chase plotline is kinda dull and the romance between doctor and patient is also uninteresting. Hell, it's worse than that. The way the film characterizes Dr. Petersen as this women who is somehow unusual for not being overly romantic and feminine but instantly swoons for Gregory Peck's character is more than a little insulting. The fact that the film is among the first to deal with psychoanalysis gives it some cred, but the fact that the exploration is superficial and not terribly accurate takes said cred away. So there's a lot about Spellbound that doesn't work, but Hitchcock's strength as a filmmaker does a lot to save it. For one thing, this remains a well-produced beast and Hitchcock sets the right tone. More importantly, there are a handful of awesome scenes. The dream sequence co-created by Salvadore Dali is the film's most famous scene, and there are other greats too, like a really well-down ski-sequence, a suspenseful moment involving a razor and a glass of milk, and a climactic first-person shot which is all kinds of awesome. For all of Spellbound's faults, these awesome elements are able to elevate the film into being pretty decent all the same. C+
|
|
SnoBorderZero
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 17,621
Likes: 3,182
Location:
Last Online Nov 19, 2024 19:49:20 GMT -5
|
Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 4, 2017 0:34:37 GMT -5
I watched a couple 1927 Hitchcock works recently, and here's my thoughts on them.
Downhill (1927) This film really didn't work for me at all. It centers around a man in boarding school who goes with his friend to see a girl who invites them to a bun shop while her parents are away. In a 1920s sort of way, the man's friend kisses and dances with the girl, and she later accuses them both of improper conduct. For some reason, she names our protagonist as the one who did it (I suppose she was upset he wasn't into her, it's not really explained) and the man is expelled from school. Apparently he and his friend made some sort of pact that's never shown in the film, and is never really elaborated on either. I suppose they made a "hey, if one of us is accused of rape but the other person did it, take the fall, dude!" agreement or something, either way it's completely stupid. So the protagonist returns home, is spurned by his father, and then everything goes, ahem, downhill. He sort of bounces from one ill-explained subplot to another, including one where he's basically a gigolo and is forced to dance with ugly old women in Paris or something. Yeah... I had a complaint with the film that I've never had before with a silent film; it didn't have enough title cards to explain what the hell was going on. Not that the story is very strong to begin with, but it was made even more confusing due to a lack of explanation for a lot of it. Anyways, basically the only thing I liked was that Hitchcock employs some pretty cool camera shots like some neat POV sequences that hint at his talent. Unfortunately, this film is a major dud in the story department. I haven't seen a lot of Hitchcock outside of his big ones, but this is far and away the worst of his that I've seen.
5/10
The Lodger (1927) Now this is more like it. Later in 1927, Hitchcock made a film far more synonymous with his career where a serial killer in London has been killing blonde women every Tuesday night. While this is happening, a mysterious lodger (who plays the protagonist in Downhill) rents a room. He and the young woman living there begin to fall in love, though his odd behavior and late night walks lead everyone else to believe that he's the killer. Is he? Well, you'll have to watch this to find out, but it's classic Hitchcock in the vein of Shadow of a Doubt or The Lady Vanishes, though not as good as either of those. It's a breezy viewing at just 70 minutes, but of Hitchcock's silent era work this might be his most "Hitchcock" of the bunch. There's some very good editing on display here, and the reveal at the end isn't a cheap one even if it isn't totally amazing either. There's not much depth to the film, but it's a fun, one-time viewing that any Hitchcock enthusiast will enjoy.
7/10
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 10, 2017 16:33:38 GMT -5
I haven't seen either film yet, but most of my exploring of silent Hitchcock has not been terribly rewarding. It's interesting to see where the man come from, but they've definitely been pretty weak.
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 10, 2017 16:37:38 GMT -5
Film Five: NotoriousNotorious is not one of Hitchcock's most famous films but it is held in very high esteem by film scholars and academic types. It's easy to see why. While ostensibly the film is a spy-thriller and does function within the confines of that genre, it's as a psychologically rich love triangle that the film really shines. The film is oozing with symbolic sexuality whether in the form of the "long kiss" sequence or more subtle Freudian imagery. It's impressive to see how Hitchcock portrayed all of this within the limitations of the Hays code. Like I said though, what really works here are the relationship dynamics and the characters. The fact that Devlin is essentially prostituting Alicia to complete a mission gives the story a perverse edge, and there's the added irony that Devlin comes to resent her for this, and not the other way around. Comparatively, for all of Alex's faults, he does seem to genuinely love Alicia and also seems to be a victim of an overly controlling and villainous mother. It is his own weak-will which allows him to be manipulated the way he is, but the character is not a simplistic villain and is in some ways more sympathetic than the hero. This also features some of the best acting in Hitchcock's filmography. Ingrid Bergman is great in a complex role which requires her to be both powerful and vulnerable, while also struggling with her own self-worth and trying to grow. Cary Grant is doing a riff on his usual charming persona, but there's a darker edge and more bitter edge to Devlin that we don't often get from him. My favourite performance though is Claude Rains, who is likable and even charming to an extent, but also insecure and quite pitiful. He is a man who does and engages in horrible things, but is also fearful and sad. The fact that he gets a shot at genuine happiness that turns out to be fraudulent is almost tragic. Almost. He's still a villain of course, but there's a great degree of moral complexity to the character and Rains brings this out perfectly. Hitchcock continues to be ambitious with his camera work. There are some amazing shots here, including some impressive movements and tracking shots, but they are never done for their own sake. They always serve to bring attention to elements of the plot or characters, or to accentuate the mood. The film is also a damn good thriller even removing the sexual politics. It's extremely tense watching Alicia navigate through the lion's den and when things do eventually go south the results are gripping. There a lot of great little Hitchcockian scenes, but my favourite here is easily the film's climax. It's one of the simplest set-pieces Hitch probably ever did (it's basically just people walking down some stairs), but the tension is so palpable with so many different, violent outcomes possible depending on the character's choices. And the pay-off to that scene is brilliant. It's the perfect culmination to the film as a thriller and a psychologically wrought love story between these three people. The story closes things out nicely while still letting things mostly play unsaid and it has a really dark cynical edge the more you think about it. In short, it's a pretty perfect mic-drop. There are a lot of Hitchcock films I love which preceded Notorious, but for my money, this was his first full-on masterpiece. A+
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 14, 2017 11:50:52 GMT -5
Don't everyone come commenting at once. Film Six: RopeRope feels like it should be high-level Hitchcock, but it doesn't quite reach that level for me. There's definitely a lot to like about Rope though. The film explores Hitchcock's perverse fascination with murder in an interesting fashion, the apartment set is very good, and the long-take gimmick does lead to some really cool visuals. That format also brings with it a share of problems. I'm not so much bothered by the awkward transitions between camera reel changes, but I am bothered by the over-the-top performances the technique seems to bring. There's a certain theatricality to the performances here and the film definitely feels stage-bound, but all the same I find some of the performances distracting, which is a shame because the lead characters here are pretty nuanced. Beyond that, there is some really on the nose dialogue and the final speech that Rupert gives is really preachy. These are the things which keep Rope from greatness, but there is some great stuff. As I said, the set is used to marvelous effect, there are a handful of interesting moments, Jimmy Stewart gives a great turn, and the psychological underpinnings are worth exploring. Obviously there's a certain homoerotic subtext to the central relationship but it doesn't need to be viewed strictly as that to be rewarding. The fact that Brandon is the one who boasts most frequently about his superiority and daring but it's really Phillip who did the strangling and wrestles with the bulk of the guilt. Couple that with Brandon's upper class snobbery and one gets the sense of a man eager to boast of his status and sophistication but has in fact been handed most everything in his life. B
|
|
Doomsday
Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 23,295
Likes: 6,761
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 1:33:13 GMT -5
|
Post by Doomsday on Apr 14, 2017 12:06:46 GMT -5
Don't everyone come commenting at once. My thread suffers a bit from the same. I really liked Rope when I watched it, it's been some time but I enjoyed it. The one thing that annoyed the hell out of me was the painfully obvious fake piano. The keys didn't even move!
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2017 12:11:26 GMT -5
Don't everyone come commenting at once. My thread suffers a bit from the same. I've had entire threads ignored.
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 14, 2017 12:13:47 GMT -5
Don't everyone come commenting at once. My thread suffers a bit from the same. I really liked Rope when I watched it, it's been some time but I enjoyed it. The one thing that annoyed the hell out of me was the painfully obvious fake piano. The keys didn't even move! Good point. The scene where Philip is frantically hitting the keys is pretty amusing in how over the top it is. My thread suffers a bit from the same. I've had entire threads ignored. This is your thread. I'm trying to keep the legacy alive.
|
|
Jibbs
Administrator
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 75,725
Likes: 1,657
Location:
Last Online Feb 20, 2024 18:06:23 GMT -5
|
Post by Jibbs on Apr 14, 2017 12:48:18 GMT -5
Did a college paper on Rope.
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2017 13:02:03 GMT -5
Did a college paper on Rope. Did a college paper on the episode of Mad About You based on Rope.
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 14, 2017 13:38:11 GMT -5
Did a college paper on Rope. Cool. What was your argument?
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2017 13:53:16 GMT -5
Did a college paper on Rope. Cool. What was your argument? That the two main characters are gay and into bondage.
|
|
Jibbs
Administrator
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 75,725
Likes: 1,657
Location:
Last Online Feb 20, 2024 18:06:23 GMT -5
|
Post by Jibbs on Apr 14, 2017 14:46:00 GMT -5
Cool. What was your argument? That the two main characters are gay and into bondage. Yep. Got an "A" and a "see me after class." It got weird.
|
|
Jibbs
Administrator
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 75,725
Likes: 1,657
Location:
Last Online Feb 20, 2024 18:06:23 GMT -5
|
Post by Jibbs on Apr 14, 2017 14:46:45 GMT -5
Did a college paper on Rope. Did a college paper on the episode of Mad About You based on Rope. The one in the hallway?
|
|
Jibbs
Administrator
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 75,725
Likes: 1,657
Location:
Last Online Feb 20, 2024 18:06:23 GMT -5
|
Post by Jibbs on Apr 14, 2017 14:51:53 GMT -5
Did a college paper on Rope. Cool. What was your argument? I'm looking at it now...no idea. I hope I passed this class. But it wasn't an argument kind of paper. It was for my "Critical Analysis Argument" where I talked about the (lack of) editing and realism.
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2017 14:59:24 GMT -5
Did a college paper on the episode of Mad About You based on Rope. The one in the hallway?
|
|
Jibbs
Administrator
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 75,725
Likes: 1,657
Location:
Last Online Feb 20, 2024 18:06:23 GMT -5
|
Post by Jibbs on Apr 14, 2017 15:04:09 GMT -5
What are they watching?
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2017 15:15:15 GMT -5
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 14, 2017 15:25:06 GMT -5
I wrote a college paper on how Seinfeld , Mad About You and Friends exist in the same universe but are also shows within the universe. It's some Rick & Morty type shit.
|
|
thebtskink
CS! Silver
Join Date: Jul 2000
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Posts: 19,462
Likes: 4,984
Location:
Last Online Nov 21, 2024 13:25:50 GMT -5
|
Post by thebtskink on Apr 14, 2017 15:57:45 GMT -5
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 14, 2017 16:14:37 GMT -5
From Jimmy Stewart to Jason Mewes.
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 16, 2017 20:12:23 GMT -5
Hitchcockathon Film 7: Strangers on a Train (1951)Strangers on a Train is an interesting beast. On the one hand, the film is VERY Hitchcockian. It's a story about an innocent man who finds himself in over his head in a plot where he's accused of a crime, it explores Hitchcock's perverse fascination with murder, it features a sinister villain with a twisted mother relationship, there's a thick layer of suspense, and the film hangs on some amazing set-pieces. At the same time, this film is a bit of an aberration in Hitchcock's filmography. The film is a lot more noir-tinged than Hitchcock's other works. Hitchcock had maybe tiptoed in noir with something like Notorious, but the distorted angles and deep-rooted cynicism of Strangers represents a deeper plunge. What's more, the film is lacking in a lot of the humour that underlies seemingly comparable Hitchcock thrillers. I bring all of this up because I think it's interesting to view the film within the context of Hitchcock's work, particularly as I'm marathoning through his films, but ultimately it only matters so much when assessing the film itself. What does matter is how exquisitely crafted this film is. Farley Granger makes for a good hero/victim, but the star here is easily Robert Walker, who makes for a very unnerving villain. He's a genuinely creepy and twisted individual, but he presents himself in a way which is kindly and even charming, which actually makes him even creepy. There's also a certain childlike sense to the character which adds a psychological level and also just makes him more fun to watch. The film is also shot very well and the set-pieces here are among Hitchcock's best. The long stalking scene coupled with the quick murder in particular is an astonishingly good piece of cinema. I do wish the ending had a bit more teeth. Things wrap up a little too easily for me, especially given how cynical the film had been up to that point. Still, the scene by scene execution is such that to call Strangers on a Train anything less than a classic is crazy. A+
|
|
Neverending
CS! Platinum
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,770
Likes: 8,646
Location:
Last Online Nov 22, 2024 7:47:06 GMT -5
|
Post by Neverending on Apr 17, 2017 2:12:08 GMT -5
Throw Momma from the Train (1987)Billy Crystal is a struggling novelist and community college professor. His ex-wife stole his manuscript and turned it into a best seller. He wants to kill her. Danny Devito lives with his abusive mother and only thing keeping his sanity is the prospect of being a writer. He looks for guidance from his teacher and instead learns that he too has female problems. That's when Devito takes a page from Hitchcock and proposes a switch - a criss cross. He'll kill his ex-wife and Crystal will murder his mother. They'll have no motive. No link to the crime. Problem is, Crystal doesn't agree to it, and when Devito pushes his ex-wife off a boat, he has no alibi and the police go after him. Throw Mamma from the Train marks the directorial debut of Devito. He went on to helm War of the Roses, Hoffa, Matilda, Death to Smoochy and Duplex. The man loves quirky dark comedies and is quite good at it. With the help of Barry Sonnenfeld, who was the Coen Bros' cinematographer at the time, the film balances dramedy with hijinks and truly heartfelt moments. Only flaw are the movie losing steam towards the end and concluding on a sappy note. It could have been an A but settled for a B. That's fine when all things are considered. Doing a comedy based on Hitchcock isn't as simple as it sounds. Even Mel Brooks struggled through it with High Anxiety. Devito pulled it off better than anyone I could think of right now. That's commendable, especially for a first timer at bat.
|
|
PG Cooper
CS! Silver
Join Date: Feb 2009
And those who tasted the bite of his sword named him...The DOOM Slayer
Posts: 16,645
Likes: 4,060
Location:
Member is Online
|
Post by PG Cooper on Apr 18, 2017 6:43:47 GMT -5
I did see Throw Momma from the Train around 10 years ago. I remember liking it, but my memory is hazy. I also remember the lame cop-out ending.
|
|
Justin
Script Supervisor
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 739
Likes: 355
Location:
Last Online Oct 17, 2017 12:05:25 GMT -5
|
Post by Justin on Apr 18, 2017 8:21:06 GMT -5
Regarding Rope, I remember not liking it much. It gets really preachy and Hitchcock's effort of only using one shot just feels like a half-hearted exercise.
|
|