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I look a lot douchier in pictures. In the mirror too.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 3, 2015 10:31:56 GMT -5
Books were the worst. When they did buy them back from you at the end of the year it was for peanuts. Even worse was when the edition you've been using all semester is now out of date because your professor is switching to the new edition that fixed two typos, so now your book is worthless. Most of the time we never used the book except to grab generic quotations from. My professors always wanted to stress class attendance so the material came from their in-class lectures and hardly ever from the book you shelled out cash for. It's a damn scheme.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2015 10:41:44 GMT -5
Even worse was when the edition you've been using all semester is now out of date because your professor is switching to the new edition that fixed two typos, so now your book is worthless. LOL. I have two textbooks, "Intro to Communications" and "Radio Production", gathering dust in my closet for that reason. Yeah, I never bought textbooks until I was 100% certain I needed them. In most classes, textbooks are a suggestion and not an actual requirement.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 3, 2015 10:45:24 GMT -5
We had required reading most of the time, and like I said they'd get you on making you use the book for quotes or one damn reading assignment or other shit like that.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2015 13:26:26 GMT -5
We had required reading most of the time, and like I said they'd get you on making you use the book for quotes or one damn reading assignment or other shit like that. For me it was different. Math classes were the ones that absolutely required a text book because we had to solve the equations and formulas and whatever at the end of each chapter. I had one professor who photocopied the text book for us, but the rest were too lazy. Music class was also annoying because each text book came with a CD we had to listen to. The rest of my classes either didn't need a text book or were semi-required. Science classes, I think, are a good example of the latter.
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Post by Seakazoo on Aug 4, 2015 9:25:52 GMT -5
I had a professor at KU who wrote the only book that we needed for his psychology class. It wasn't so much a book per-se as it was a few hundred pieces of paper that were three hole punched so you had to put it in a binder, so it was impossible to sell back at the end of the semester.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 4, 2015 9:56:29 GMT -5
Those were the worst where it was a "book" written by the professor so it's completely useless outside of the class.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2015 10:37:23 GMT -5
Those were the worst where it was a "book" written by the professor so it's completely useless outside of the class. Yup. I had a science teacher who wrote a textbook and even made an educational video. These type of people are just using teaching to promote their other career. Or vice versa. I've actually heard/read that they don't really make that much from text books if its just sold in one college.
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I've had this conversation a lot with people lately. I'm really interested to see how things are in say 20 or 25 years from now if I have kids who will be going to college. When I was growing up it was never a matter of 'if' I was going to college. It was 'where' are you going to college? It was just a natural step after high school, I was never presented with the opportunity of doing anything different. I got a liberal arts degree and was able to find a job and now I'm in the process of shifting careers and all that, but even now just eight years after graduating it's so much different. If I had kids today I would tell them a bunch of things I was never told; if you go to college, you go with a plan. I don't care what you minor in be it Native American Dialects or Fast Food Taste Testing but your major is to be something practical like business or something that will directly relate to your career. Also, if you don't know what you want to do, you aren't going to find out by taking out $100K in student debt. I can't imagine the hurdles you need to jump through nowadays and I couldn't imagine being saddled with such huge debt at the ripe old age of 22. Hopefully something changes soon.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 4, 2015 13:09:18 GMT -5
I've had this conversation a lot with people lately. I'm really interested to see how things are in say 20 or 25 years from now if I have kids who will be going to college. When I was growing up it was never a matter of 'if' I was going to college. It was 'where' are you going to college? It was just a natural step after high school, I was never presented with the opportunity of doing anything different. I got a liberal arts degree and was able to find a job and now I'm in the process of shifting careers and all that, but even now just eight years after graduating it's so much different. If I had kids today I would tell them a bunch of things I was never told; if you go to college, you go with a plan. I don't care what you minor in be it Native American Dialects or Fast Food Taste Testing but your major is to be something practical like business or something that will directly relate to your career. Also, if you don't know what you want to do, you aren't going to find out by taking out $100K in student debt. I can't imagine the hurdles you need to jump through nowadays and I couldn't imagine being saddled with such huge debt at the ripe old age of 22. Hopefully something changes soon. I have two siblings in college and one in high school. The only people who go to a university are rich people and/or those who get a full scholarship. Everyone else goes to a community college, gets their associates degree in 2 years at a cost of $4,000 (sometimes more) and then go to a trade school for 3 to 6 months. The price for that can vary. In this current economy and job market, "being smart" doesn't get you anywhere unless you have connections or are studying medicine or law or something like that. Spending 4 years reading a book isn't practical anymore. You need, as our grandparents would say, a real job. I have a cousin in his early 20's who got a job filling paper work at a police station when he was 18. In less than a decade he got promoted enough times that now he's in charge of the entire archive division. And all he has is a computer degree from a community college and certificate from the Police Explores program, which he got at 17.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 4, 2015 13:50:45 GMT -5
You guys are right. In fact, you can argue that with the major cuts and essentially cramming of students into classes and impact problems that students aren't even being properly prepared for a career. Where I went to college they were essentially just trying to churn people out to make room for incoming students. There isn't as much hands-on or direct teaching going on at a large university. In fact I really didn't learn a whole lot in terms of film school there and if I didn't make my own work and work on productions while going there I probably wouldn't have been able to land a good job right away. I work full time now as a video editor while working with a production company, and none of the skills I use were ones I learned from school but just by doing my own projects. In school, yeah we shot stuff, but mostly they attempted to make up for the budget cuts by having us write a bunch of film theory essays. That's great for my peers that only watch Nolan and Tarantino movies to judge movies based on more than entertainment value, but that doesn't land you a job. I still value having a degree from a 4-year university, but it's mostly just there to pad my resume and demonstrate that I could balance school and beer pong effectively.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 5, 2015 2:50:13 GMT -5
You guys are right. In fact, you can argue that with the major cuts and essentially cramming of students into classes and impact problems that students aren't even being properly prepared for a career. Where I went to college they were essentially just trying to churn people out to make room for incoming students. There isn't as much hands-on or direct teaching going on at a large university. In fact I really didn't learn a whole lot in terms of film school there and if I didn't make my own work and work on productions while going there I probably wouldn't have been able to land a good job right away. I work full time now as a video editor while working with a production company, and none of the skills I use were ones I learned from school but just by doing my own projects. In school, yeah we shot stuff, but mostly they attempted to make up for the budget cuts by having us write a bunch of film theory essays. That's great for my peers that only watch Nolan and Tarantino movies to judge movies based on more than entertainment value, but that doesn't land you a job. I still value having a degree from a 4-year university, but it's mostly just there to pad my resume and demonstrate that I could balance school and beer pong effectively. I wouldn't recommend studying film at a university unless it's UCLA or NYU or some school with a good reputation for that stuff. Going to actual film school is actually better. Even if the school sucks, you'll have access to equipment and people. That's why I roll my eyes whenever Quentin Tarantino talks shit about film school. He spent years trying to make My Best Friends Birthday (or whatever that shit was called), but if he had gone to film school, he could have made it in 6 months.
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Post by Frizzo the Clown on Aug 5, 2015 12:27:53 GMT -5
I took a philosophy course in college and at the end of the semester the instructor told us that we couldn't sell the books back because he wasn't using them the next year. He said that it was because he was pretty sure it was written by an atheist.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Aug 5, 2015 12:36:11 GMT -5
I took a philosophy course in college and at the end of the semester the instructor told us that we couldn't sell the books back because he wasn't using them the next year. He said that it was because he was pretty sure it was written by an atheist. That's awesome. So essentially your professor never read the book beforehand but taught an entire course on the material. I feel like this happens a lot.
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Post by sandman441 on Aug 9, 2015 3:51:58 GMT -5
I am in college again. I graduated in 2013 I think it was, couldn't find a job and since my safety degree was like 85% done I decided I would try that out. I tool biology this summer which was not bad at all. This fall I got 2 classes and then in the spring I got 1 and then I am done forever this time I hope.
can anybody guess when I graduated from this song?
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I didn't know anyone in college who ate Ramen Noodles. We lived on Taco Bell and Little Ceasars. I'm not sure which is worst.
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Post by Doomsday on Mar 10, 2016 23:32:39 GMT -5
I never had ramen noodles once in college. Del Taco, sure. $1.50 hot dog and soda at Costco, all the time. I actually lived off hot dogs my senior year of college, I must have eaten hundreds of them.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 10, 2016 23:48:52 GMT -5
The problem with the ramen noodles thing is that most dorm rooms don't have stoves you can cook them on and don't allow countertop burners. Personally, I mostly lived off my cafeteria meal plan and stray junk food.
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Post by Neverending on Mar 11, 2016 0:15:25 GMT -5
I never had ramen noodles once in college. Del Taco, sure. $1.50 hot dog and soda at Costco, all the time. I actually lived off hot dogs my senior year of college, I must have eaten hundreds of them. The problem with the ramen noodles thing is that most dorm rooms don't have stoves you can cook them on and don't allow countertop burners. Personally, I mostly lived off my cafeteria meal plan and stray junk food. My first year of college I lived on cafeteria food and vending machines and the $5 Little Caesars pizza that everyone chipped in on. My second and third year of college I ate fast food and whatever cheap stuff I could find at Walgreens and 7/11.
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Post by Fanible on Mar 11, 2016 8:44:53 GMT -5
I've known plenty of college students who made ramen in the microwave.
Never stayed in a dorm myself, so I can't relate.
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Post by sabin26 on Mar 11, 2016 8:47:35 GMT -5
If I remember correctly my graduating class decided on some stupid Creed song. I never actually enrolled into a college. While I served I had a few classes I could sign up for that were being provided for free and put them towards my CCAF, which I never finished. College and school just never really connected with me. The only time it did was when I finally got my career diploma for Gunsmithing two years ago.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 11, 2016 14:49:54 GMT -5
People decided on a Creed song? Yikes...
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