19 Kids and Counting One Pedophile

My wife loves this show, shocking to hear. But you're absolutely right charges need to be filed against him and his parents. The law is the law, if it was me or you who did this we would have been picked up and thrown in jail faster than you could blink.

Josh Duggar, Molestation, And The Hypocrisy Of Reality TV

The news that Josh Duggar has admitted to molesting numerous children (including some of his sisters) 12 years ago is a dramatic demonstration of the fundamental hypocrisy that underpins so much reality TV. Josh, the eldest of the children filmed as part of TLC’s huge hit 19 Kids and Counting, has said he has “acted inexcusably” and was “deeply sorry” for his “wrongdoing.”

www.yahoo.com/tv/josh-duggar-molestation-19-kids-and-counting-119599893620.html

Mama June: TLC Should Cancel '19 Kids and Counting' After Josh Dugger's Admission to Molesting His Own Sisters

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo's Mama June Shannon is railing against TLC, her former employer, calling them hypocrites for failing to pull 19 Kids and Counting off the air after one of the show's stars, Josh Duggar, admitted to molesting five young girls in 2002.

TLC canceled Shannon's show in October following a report that she was dating a convicted child molester. On Thursday, Josh Duggar, the eldest of Jim Bob and Michelle Dugger's titular 19 children, admitted to having fondled five young girls, reportedly including his own younger sisters, when he was a teenager. That night, TLC aired a marathon of the show. And the network has another marathon planned for today.

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TLC Pulls '19 Kids and Counting' in Wake of Josh Duggar Molestation Admission

www.yahoo.com/tv/tlc-pulls-19-kids-and-counting-in-wake-of-josh-119614188615.html?bcmt=comments-postbox

Yay

I think counseling

Interesting thoughts on the subject. Well thought out and written

The Duggars’ dangerous cult of purity
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/05/22/the-duggars-dangerous-cult-of-purity/

Education Program Used By Duggars Has 'Horrific' Sex Abuse Teachings, Ex-Student Says

The home education program used by the Duggar family teaches disturbing, victim-blaming lessons about sexual abuse, a former student of the program says.

Shortly after news broke that "19 Kids and Counting" star Josh Duggar was accused of molesting five underage girls -- some of whom were his sisters -- as a young teen, documents about sexual abuse purportedly published by the Advanced Training Institute (ATI) began re-circulating online. The Duggars are actively involved with the conservative Christian homeschooling program, and People reports that ATI’s parent organization, the Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP), runs the facility where Jim Bob and Michelle sent their son for counseling after they learned of the abuse in 2003.

One document, “Counseling Sexual Abuse,” strongly suggests that victims are to blame for their own abuse. The guide instructs victims to ask themselves “Why did God let it happen?” and offers potential reasons like “immodest dress,” “indecent exposure” and “being with evil friends.”



The handout was originally posted by Recovering Grace, an organization dedicated to “helping people whose lives have been impacted” by ATI and IBLP, in 2013 -- long before the allegations against Josh Duggar made headlines.

John Cornish, one of the team members who runs Recovering Grace, told The Huffington Post that he remembers attending an ATI convention as a teen in 1997 and personally hearing Bill Gothard, the IBLP founder, going over the "Counseling Sexual Abuse" document.

“At that point in time, I barely even knew what sexual abuse was,” Cornish recalled. “However, I remember that he was basically telling us that sexual abuse wasn't all that terrible because it only affected one's body, and not the more important parts of our being: soul and spirit.”

Cornish called Gothard's advice "horrific," noting that program's guidelines not only "question whether the abused was at fault," but also try to convince a victim that being abused was a good thing.

Cornish added that “for the thousands of families in the ATI program, Gothard would be the first place they would turn” in a case of sexual abuse.

Gothard resigned from the institute last year in the wake of accusations from 34 women that he sexually harassed or assaulted them, though he maintains he is innocent.

Recovering Grace also posted a second document, called “Lessons From Moral Failures In A Family,” which tells the story of family dealing with the consequences of their son sexually abusing some of this younger siblings. It includes a statement from the boy in which he blames his behavior on laziness, a lack of moral purity and, most disturbingly, the “immodest” behavior of his young sisters:



The boy also cites having to change his sisters’ diapers as contributing to his actions.

The authors of the document seem to agree with the boy’s assessment. Following the boy’s statement, the document offers some guidelines for “precautions” that families should take “so that a similar tragedy will not happen among their children.” Those guidelines include insisting on “modesty,” prohibiting boys from changing diapers and not “tolerating laziness.”

Click here to read the entire document.

Cornish said he does not personally remember going over the second document, noting that Recovering Grace has collected thousands of pages of documents over the years. However, he said there is no doubt in his mind that it is authentic.

“The layout and design, the verbiage, the content -- it’s Gothard,” he said.

“Lessons From Moral Failures In A Family” was distributed in the late 1990s, according to a post by Recovering Grace. A police report indicates that the first time Josh Duggar was accused of molesting a girl was in 2002, so it’s unlikely that the story is about the Duggar family.

When asked to confirm whether the documents were indeed ATI publications, an ATI representative told The Huffington Post that the organization has “no comment” on the matter.

Josh Duggar, now 27, publicly apologized for his actions and acknowledged that allegations were true in a Thursday Facebook post. TLC pulled “19 Kids and Counting” from its lineup the next day.

Lol OMG this just keeps getting worse.

Josh Duggar's Dad Jim Bob Duggar Advocated for the Death Penalty for Incest in 2002 Political Campaign

Read more: www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jim-bob-duggar-advocated-for-death-penalty-for-rapists-incest-in-2002-2015275#ixzz3bUO3gy00

You just described every news channel on TV. Don't be petty and only pick on one.

I doubt any of those numbers are accurate and more based on the opinion of the group doing the study. I would wager that at best maybe 20% of any news from any channel is 100% truthful and unbiased when broadcast.

I do not know a single conservative Christian, myself included, that wants gays to burn in hell or that condone what these nutjobs did.

You really should not stereotype a group you do not seem to know much about. You see the WBC freaks protest a funeral with "God hates fags" signs and you automatically assume that because they say they are conservative Christians that we must all be that way. Well I hate to break it to you but they are not conservative or Christian. They are mentally deranged fools who like getting screen time on the local news.

As far as the duggars, well there is a special place in hell for them and people who do things like that to children or aid in the covering up of the act.

I am sure you have some horror story of someone claiming to be a Christian doing something awful to you or someone you know but that does not represent who we are. Sorry.

You really don't know a single gay-bashing Christian?  Would you like me to post links to numerous articles detailing just that?  Here in California alone there is a guy trying to get a bill passed to exterminate all gays.  You must really be tuning out the numerous incidents of just this.  I guess all those preachers and mega churches are telling Christians to respect people different from them now?  Give me a break.  I know PLENTY about this group and their ideologies, how could I avoid it?  I went to Catholic church the first 13 years of my life, it wasn't for me, but that's fine if it is for others.  What isn't fine is when people take their religious beliefs and seek to cleanse the rest of us because we don't live a lifestyle that they approve of.  Yes, there are good Christians out there, but there are a lot of nasty, hypocritical ones too that like to impose their intolerant views on others and display their arrogance and self-righteousness for all to observe.  Would you like me to direct you to Mike Huckabee standing behind Josh because he's repented?  I'm fully aware that not all Christians are book burning wackos, but scan the comments on any article on this matter and you'll find that there's PLENTY of them. 

You really come off as a true imbecile sometimes. I've never had anyone religious wrong me, I don't have to have been personally attacked to socially reject the blatant bigotry and discrimination that conservative Christians have displayed time after time.  It's not fun when the kids getting picked on by the bully finally stand up to the bully, and Christian organizations such as the ones that the Duggars advocate are finding that out the hard way.  It's not cool to be a bigot anymore, it's not cool to impose the beliefs of your religion on others and judge them for not following it, it's not cool to cry foul over homosexuality but justify incest and molestation.  If you're so much different than these people and I'm just so off base, then where are the people like you standing against your religion for the hypocritical notions it hides behind?  Where are your preachers coming out and scolding other preachers that spread discrimination in their churches?  I haven't seen any.  I should've rephrased my initial comment to just say "some" Christians, I was wrong on that front to lump everyone into one train of thought, but you're in denial if you think that the Duggars and those supporting them are in the minority in your religion because that's simply not the case.

I have not been to church in a while but the church I do attend is a nice sized church, probably 200-300 regular attenders. Our previous pastor and current have never preached anything but love. My former church which is much larger. Membership in the 4000+ range. Again, never heard a single thing about damning gays to hell there either. Just love.

Never in socializing with members has anyone ever said anything about hating gays. Never been pulled to the side by someone and asked secretively  "Man don't you wish those gays would just burn in hell??".


Do any of those people believe gays should burn in hell? Possibly. If they do they are not preaching it out loud for others to hear. So no, I do not personally know anyone who thinks that way and lets others know how they truly feel. Have I seen it on TV/News and social media? Of course.

As far as people taking a stand against the duggars? Well what are we supposed to do? I have nothing to do with them and neither does anyone in my community. You think just because you are not hearing about people not standing with the duggars that it isnt happening. That does not make for good news or a flashy headline because it is common friggin sense my friend. What makes news and cool headlines is finding the nuts who DO stand with them. That gets clicks on a website, magazines sold, and people glued to their TVs to hear how someone could be dumb enough to stand with them.

Also, can you for once debate anything on this board without insulting the person you disagree with? I am not 14, I do not know if you are but don't act like it. If you want to have a serious discussion then act like an adult. If not then I won't discuss it with you. Joking around is one thing. Neverending jokes about me being a redneck all the time but when we discuss political/important topics you do not see a single insult come my way. Disagree with me all you like, make your points and either continue with a rebuttal or move on to something else.