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Post by docstop on Oct 28, 2020 14:54:27 GMT -5
Not meaning to defend Trump here but I find these types of polls disingenuous. Thinking in terms of abortion, Biden is clearly for it and would ensure its not impacted and that baby killing mills powered by Planned Parenthood would get lots of funding. I just find it difficult to square in my head how kids would vote for Biden, those same kids that technically, a few years ago, could be considered by their mother to not be human, right up to 9 months, depending on the state, and aborted as a choice, if the mother did not want them. I know a pro-life perspective is not popular here on these boards, I'm not meaning to offend or shame anyone.
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Post by Wyldstaar on Oct 28, 2020 15:20:39 GMT -5
Not meaning to defend Trump here but I find these types of polls disingenuous. Thinking in terms of abortion, Biden is clearly for it and would ensure its not impacted and that baby killing mills powered by Planned Parenthood would get lots of funding. I just find it difficult to square in my head how kids would vote for Biden, those same kids that technically, a few years ago, could be considered by their mother to not be human, right up to 9 months, depending on the state, and aborted as a choice, if the mother did not want them. I know a pro-life perspective is not popular here on these boards, I'm not meaning to offend or shame anyone. Considering your choice of words, it’s clear you are trying very hard to offend.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 28, 2020 15:24:07 GMT -5
I told you all, NICKELODEON HAS SPOKEN! This election is over!
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 15:27:51 GMT -5
I just find it difficult to square in my head how kids would vote for Biden Children don’t know politics (nor are they legally allowed to vote). They’re just picking whomever they overhear their parents are voting for. My teachers in Elementary and Middle School would do these mock votes to survey who’d win the Election. As far as I can remember, our little classroom experiment did indeed reflect the actual Election results. I “voted” for Clinton because he was the guy playing the saxophone on Arsenio Hall, not cause of anything my family had to say.
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Post by PG Cooper on Oct 28, 2020 15:33:52 GMT -5
I “voted” for Clinton because he was the guy playing the saxophone on Arsenio Hall, not cause of anything my family had to say. Ah, a man of taste.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 28, 2020 15:38:26 GMT -5
I voted for Ross Perot because he had the coolest name.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 15:40:46 GMT -5
I voted for Ross Perot because he had the coolest name. I voted for Bob Dole cause of Norm MacDonald.
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Post by docstop on Oct 28, 2020 15:41:10 GMT -5
Not meaning to defend Trump here but I find these types of polls disingenuous. Thinking in terms of abortion, Biden is clearly for it and would ensure its not impacted and that baby killing mills powered by Planned Parenthood would get lots of funding. I just find it difficult to square in my head how kids would vote for Biden, those same kids that technically, a few years ago, could be considered by their mother to not be human, right up to 9 months, depending on the state, and aborted as a choice, if the mother did not want them. I know a pro-life perspective is not popular here on these boards, I'm not meaning to offend or shame anyone. Considering your choice of words, it’s clear you are trying very hard to offend. Offend? No. Describe the reality of what happens? Yes.
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Post by docstop on Oct 28, 2020 15:42:37 GMT -5
I just find it difficult to square in my head how kids would vote for Biden Children don’t know politics (nor are they legally allowed to vote). They’re just picking whomever they overhear their parents are voting for. That's the thing, its a fake poll that is really just the parent's opinions coming out.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 28, 2020 15:43:51 GMT -5
I voted for Ross Perot because he had the coolest name. I voted for Bob Dole cause of Norm MacDonald. Now this is an opinion I respect.
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Post by thebtskink on Oct 28, 2020 15:44:53 GMT -5
I voted for Ross Perot because I thought he was funny
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 28, 2020 15:46:44 GMT -5
I voted for Ross Perot because I thought he was funny
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 15:48:27 GMT -5
I voted for Ross Perot because I thought he was funny
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 17:43:34 GMT -5
Children don’t know politics (nor are they legally allowed to vote). They’re just picking whomever they overhear their parents are voting for. My teachers in Elementary and Middle School would do these mock votes to survey who’d win the Election. As far as I can remember, our little classroom experiment did indeed reflect the actual Election results. I “voted” for Clinton because he was the guy playing the saxophone on Arsenio Hall, not cause of anything my family had to say. We did these too. Funny thing was Bob Dole won (odd being I went to elementary school in California). I was so shocked when he didn't win the actual election. Like, dude, K-6 has spoken, what the fuck America!
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 18:39:28 GMT -5
Children don’t know politics (nor are they legally allowed to vote). They’re just picking whomever they overhear their parents are voting for. My teachers in Elementary and Middle School would do these mock votes to survey who’d win the Election. As far as I can remember, our little classroom experiment did indeed reflect the actual Election results. I “voted” for Clinton because he was the guy playing the saxophone on Arsenio Hall, not cause of anything my family had to say. We did these too. Funny thing was Bob Dole won (odd being I went to elementary school in California). I was so shocked when he didn't win the actual election. Like, dude, K-6 has spoken, what the fuck America! California? The state which elected Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger as governors? Doomsday swears that Cali is extremely liberal but I think that's Los Angeles and maybe San Francisco. Looking at that 1996 election, Bob Dole won in San Diego, Fresno, Doomsday's hometown of Orange County and in a lot of Northern and Central parts of California. 38% of California voted for Dole and nearly 7% of Californians voted for Ross Perot.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Oct 28, 2020 18:45:16 GMT -5
nearly 7% of Californians voted for Ross Perot. These are my peeps.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 18:46:39 GMT -5
California? The state which elected Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger as governors? Doomsday swears that Cali is extremely liberal but I think that's Los Angeles and maybe San Francisco. Looking at that 1996 election, Bob Dole won in San Diego, Fresno, Doomsday 's hometown of Orange County and in a lot of Northern and Central parts of California. 38% of California voted for Dole and nearly 7% of Californians voted for Ross Perot. We do have a lot of Republicans here, namely in rural areas (of which there are plenty) and definitely Orange "you can't make me wear a mask while I'm on my yacht" County. The only times that California has actually voted Republican in presidential elections though were for Nixon and Reagan, both of whom are from the state. Arnold was an anomaly. I mean shit, if I was old enough to vote at the time I probably would've voted for him too. Gray Davis was a horrible governor that no one liked, and the prospect of having The Terminator as our governor was hard to pass up. Things weren't so divided then; the thought of voting for a moderate Republican like Arnold wasn't so "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!?" as crossing party lines today would be.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 18:51:19 GMT -5
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 18:57:31 GMT -5
Orange "you can't make me wear a mask while I'm on my yacht" County. Shots Fired. Schwarzenegger running for governor was hilarious at the time. We were so innocent back then. Although I would take Schwarzenegger in a heartbeat over Trump.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 19:02:45 GMT -5
Orange "you can't make me wear a mask while I'm on my yacht" County. Shots Fired. Schwarzenegger running for governor was hilarious at the time. We were so innocent back then. Although I would take Schwarzenegger in a heartbeat over Trump. What would be really funny to see would be Newport Beach Republicans marching side-by-side with rural Trumpers. It'll never happen, but it's a nice thought. Arnold was not a good governor who handled budget cuts by massive furloughs of state employees and wasn't able to reinvigorate the state like Jerry Brown did after, but seeing him deliver serious speeches was hilarious. But yes, I'd take him over Trump any fucking day of the week. Trump is inept in ways that Arnold couldn't even dream of being. We all still love Arnold and he's become an ally against Trump even if he wasn't a great governor. Trump is a piece of shit who has done more damage to the country than any president in modern history.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 19:08:20 GMT -5
Shots Fired. Schwarzenegger running for governor was hilarious at the time. We were so innocent back then. Although I would take Schwarzenegger in a heartbeat over Trump. What would be really funny to see would be Newport Beach Republicans marching side-by-side with rural Trumpers. It'll never happen, but it's a nice thought. Arnold was not a good governor who handled budget cuts by massive furloughs of state employees and wasn't able to reinvigorate the state like Jerry Brown did after, but seeing him deliver serious speeches was hilarious. But yes, I'd take him over Trump any fucking day of the week. Trump is inept in ways that Arnold couldn't even dream of being. We all still love Arnold and he's become an ally against Trump even if he wasn't a great governor. Trump is a piece of shit who has done more damage to the country than any president in modern history. Trump has made W Bush look good ... and W is a goddamn war criminal.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 19:11:18 GMT -5
Trump has made W Bush look good ... and W is a goddamn war criminal. Right. Bush destroyed our economy, ruined our already fragile image around the world as shitty globalists, and got us into two costly wars we're still fighting and never should've been in, and like you said is a literal war criminal who advocated torture. And yet... Trump to me has done far more damage and is a much worse president. Bush fumbled the fuck out of Katrina, and still I believe he would've done a better job of handling coronavirus. I mean it's hard to do worse than Trump in that area, so Bush wins by default lol.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 19:15:39 GMT -5
Bush was incompetent and out of his league as president. He also was advised by horrendous people like Rumsfeld and Cheney who pushed him to okay a multitude of horrible things.
But what makes Trump and his followers so dangerous is their insistence on peddling conspiracy theories. Yes, the internet today is well beyond what it was then but it's astounding the amount of fact denying and conspiracy pushing that Trump and his cult are behind. We have half the country literally denouncing facts and science for unproven, whacky conspiracies. Bush wouldn't and couldn't conjure that level of dangerous thinking up.
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Post by Neverending on Oct 28, 2020 19:17:11 GMT -5
Trump has made W Bush look good ... and W is a goddamn war criminal. Right. Bush destroyed our economy, ruined our already fragile image around the world as shitty globalists, and got us into two costly wars we're still fighting and never should've been in, and like you said is a literal war criminal who advocated torture. And yet... Trump to me has done far more damage and is a much worse president. Bush fumbled the fuck out of Katrina, and still I believe he would've done a better job of handling coronavirus. I mean it's hard to do worse than Trump in that area, so Bush wins by default lol. It's because Trump wrecked us from within. All his cabinet choices were/are disastrous and he's literally put all branches of the government on life support.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Oct 28, 2020 19:19:44 GMT -5
It's because Trump wrecked us from within. All his cabinet choices were/are disastrous and he's literally put all branches of the government on life support. Right, and not only that he put the exact antithesis of these positions in charge. Scott Pruit (who should be in prison for the corruption he caused) was head of the EPA. A coal lobbyist who doesn't believe in climate change. Betsy DeVos in charge of education, who doesn't believe in public school funding. Ben Carson for HUD, who doesn't believe in public housing. I mean it's almost comical when you think of Trump choosing people that are there solely to completely dismantle the very branches they're supposed to be overseeing.
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