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Post by SnoBorderZero on Mar 11, 2021 19:04:58 GMT -5
He did it for his dad, who was a POW at a German camp. Maybe if he did the Italian Hogan’s Hero that would have pleased you more.
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Post by PG Cooper on May 11, 2021 17:56:22 GMT -5
Four RoomsWhen I was a teenager going through the films of Quentin Tarantino, Four Rooms was always this strange thing I'd see sitting on his filmography on IMDB. An anthology film Tarantino directed a segment for, the film had (and still has) an appallingly low Rotten Tomatoes score and was never really brought up by Tarantino or anyone else. All these years later, I've finally caught up with this strange little footnote and, yeah, it's fucking terrible. The gimmick here is that Tim Roth as just been hired as the bellhop for a hotel on New Years Eve and each story is another wacky adventure with various guests. The first story, directed by Alison Anders, sees a convent of witches engaging in a ritual which eventually involves having sex with Roth's bellhop. This first short is painfully unfunny and goes nowhere. Anders had broken through some years prior with a small-town drama called Gas Food Lodging, but she seems well out of her element for this kind of supernatural comedy. There's no comic spark and the staging is very boring. The second short, directed by Alexandre Rockwell, sees Roth held at gun point and by a deranged man and placed in a weird psycho-sexual drama involving the man's wife. This short is also painfully unfunny and goes nowhere, though it has a more pronounced visual style with dramatic lighting and color, as well as distortion of space through extreme angles. Then again, this short is so aggressively frenetic that it ends up being more annoying so pick your poison I guess. The third short is directed by Robert Rodriguez and is a genuine bright spot in this mess. The premise here is a mob tough guy tasks Roth with watching his kids while he and the misses go out to celebrate. It's a simple premise and there isn't a lot to it, but the story actually escalates and culminates on a joke rather than just stopping, while Rodriguez's stylistic devices actually add to the comedy. This short also benefits greatly from a very fun turn from Antonio Banderas the mob heavy which pokes fun at his own bravado. I don't want to oversell this short, there isn't a lot to it and Roth continues to be incredibly annoying, but it works and gets some laughs which is a massive improvement of what preceded it. And finally, we come to the big QT himself. Tarantino's closer is certainly better than the first two, but it's still a rather aimless affair that doesn't offer much. Basically, Roth is invited up to a suite of a Hollywood megastar (played by Tarantino himself) and gets sucked into a weird bet inspired by an old Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode. There is a story here and Tarantino's gift for dialogue does liven things up, but it isn't especially funny or dramatic or interesting. It's just kind of a thing that happens and while less irritating than Anders or Rockwell's shorts, it doesn't come close to the highs Rodriguez brought. If this had been the beginning of the anthology it might have worked as a semi-intriguing introduction, but as a climax it's pretty inert and easily Tarantino's worst work as a director. So, what happened here? I can't say I did any real research on this film's production but this seems a pretty clear case of egos run amuck. Pulp Fiction had become a game-changing hit and a new generation of young indie filmmakers seem destined to overtake Hollywood. The result is this mess of a movie that's way too high on it's own supply, its directors indulging in whatever whims they wanted without stopping to think if this collaboration was actually any good. It actually reminds me a lot of amateur films, more about making a movie than thinking through the craft or substance. Tarantino and Rodriguez would quickly rebound with a far more fruitful collaboration in From Dusk Til Dawn while Anders and Rockwell would take on less and less high-profile projects before transitioning to teaching. Point being, everyone seemed to move on okay, with Four Rooms nothing more than a bizarre detour in each's career. To some extent, I do think the film is an interesting peak into the post-Pulp Fiction rockstar era for Tarantino and his chums, but it also captures the worst elements of the era. In any event, Four Rooms is most certainly best viewed as a curiosity because as art or entertainment, it's a pretty massive failure. D
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Post by Neverending on May 12, 2021 1:18:38 GMT -5
When I was a teenager going through the films of Quentin Tarantino, Four Rooms was always this strange thing I'd see sitting on his filmography on IMDB. An anthology film Tarantino directed a segment for, the film had (and still has) an appallingly low Rotten Tomatoes score and was never really brought up by Tarantino or anyone else. All these years later, I've finally caught up with this strange little footnote and, yeah, it's fucking terrible. This shit used to be on cable all the time. I haven’t watched this movie in 20 years, but I recall loving the Rodriguez segment. THANK YOU! Bro, you’d be shocked how many people defended this shit at the old CS!. I can’t recall if Dracula was one of them, but it wouldn’t surprise me. It may have been a contractual obligation. Tarantino was involved in several projects post Reservoir Dogs and pre Pulp Fiction. Killing Zoe, Curdled and From Dusk Till Dawn are among those.
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Post by Dracula on May 12, 2021 5:59:24 GMT -5
THANK YOU! Bro, you’d be shocked how many people defended this shit at the old CS!. I can’t recall if Dracula was one of them, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Haven't seen it.
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Post by Doomsday on May 12, 2021 9:19:33 GMT -5
It was one of the first movies I watched for the film club and couldn’t tell you one thing about it.
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Post by PG Cooper on May 12, 2021 9:29:55 GMT -5
I do wonder if I'd have tried to defend the movie had I seen it when I was a teenager and at the peak of my Tarantino worship.
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Post by Doomsday on May 12, 2021 9:54:24 GMT -5
I haven't seen King Arthur nor am I going to but I have some friends who absolutely love Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes movies. Again, I have no interest in ever seeing them but I would be lying if I said I wasn't at least mildly curious. Granted these friends don't necessarily have the most refined taste in cinema.
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Post by PhantomKnight on May 12, 2021 9:58:30 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes movies and I've warmed to The Man From U.N.C.L.E. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, however, is one big pile of horse manure.
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Post by frankyt on May 12, 2021 10:50:01 GMT -5
I haven't seen King Arthur nor am I going to but I have some friends who absolutely love Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes movies. Again, I have no interest in ever seeing them but I would be lying if I said I wasn't at least mildly curious. Granted these friends don't necessarily have the most refined taste in cinema. Someone take note for film club. I recently watched king Arthur again like a week ago... It's so fire. From start to finish the montage world building is exquisite. Best Arthurian take hands down. Maybe Excalibur is better but it isn't as fun.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on May 12, 2021 17:54:03 GMT -5
Four Rooms stinks, but Robert Rodriguez's section is pretty fun.
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Post by 1godzillafan on May 12, 2021 19:26:35 GMT -5
Someone take note for film club. My ears are burning.
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Space Jam (1996) Space Jam is a movie that has become surprisingly divisive amongst my generation as of late with one side viewing it as a nostalgic classic and one side thinking it sucks and is a travesty to the Looney Tunes legacy and that its fans are deluded. Personally I’ve never really had strong feelings about it one way or the other. I saw it when it in theaters as an eight year old and I think I liked it at the time though I kind of liked everything at that age, but it’s not a movie that I took to as a favorite in part because I (coming from more of a baseball family) was generally not as fascinated by Michael Jordan as much of the country apparently was at the time, and I basically forgot about the movie entirely for the next ten years before learning that it was a subject of controversy. The film’s supporters have apparently become numerous enough to lead to a sequel film being made with LeBron James that’s coming out next month and while I may or may not see that I suspect its release is going to inspire a new wave of discourse about the original film’s merits so it seemed like a good time to give it a re-watch since it’s readily available on HBO Max so I can have a fresher opinion about the damn thing.
Temperamentally I’m generally against movies whose reputations are steeped in nostalgia so I pretty much expected to fall in with the film’s detractors and there are indeed plenty of things about this movie that are pretty bad. The film’s technical elements do not hold up very well at all, especially the moments of CGI that apply loony tune antics to Jordan and especially a bizarre sequence in which Wayne Knight is “inflated.” I also thought the techniques used to put these 2D characters into 3D planes never quite work 100%. I also think some of the Looney Tunes comedy feels a bit “off,” the film never quite uses Daffy Duck correctly and the slapstick never quite feels as inventive as it needs to be. Having said all that, I don’t quite have it in me to hate this thing. Look, the movie is a feature length sneaker commercial and a star vehicle for an athlete… it’s inherently a project that was never exactly going to be dignified and to some extent I was just impressed that they managed to make something that was even slightly watchable. The movie certainly doesn’t leave me thinking I wanted to see Michael Jordan take on Hamlet but he did prove to be a decent screen presence and plays himself fine and pairing him up with the Looney Tunes is at least a somewhat interesting idea for how to bring him to the screen. Beyond that I enjoyed some of the comedy around Jordan’s fellow basketball stars who have their talent stolen by the aliens and I do think there’s something at least a little bold and creative about building the whole movie around Jordan’s strange foray into baseball.
Is that enough to save the film? Nah, but I do think there’s enough there to make some of the backlash to this thing feel a bit overblown. Most of the people who say they love it are not claiming it should have won Oscars or anything so I don’t know that there’s really a need to tear it down either. I think once the generation that loves the movie nostalgically are no longer in the cultural driver’s seat this isn’t going to start to seem like a “good” movie or a “bad” movie but instead like an odd curio of a movie that acts as a window into a very “end of history” 1990s and a testament to just how absurdly famous Michael Jordan was then. That’s basically where I am with it now. So I guess rather than take either side of that debate I guess I’m just left wanting both sides to maybe take a step back and see this thing for what it actually is rather than embuing it with a whole lot of baggage it was never built to handle.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jun 25, 2021 12:32:57 GMT -5
Space Jam (1996)Space Jam is a movie that has become surprisingly divisive amongst my generation as of late with one side viewing it as a nostalgic classic and one side thinking it sucks and is a travesty to the Looney Tunes legacy and that its fans are deluded. Personally I’ve never really had strong feelings about it one way or the other. I saw it when it in theaters as an eight year old and I think I liked it at the time though I kind of liked everything at that age, but it’s not a movie that I took to as a favorite in part because I (coming from more of a baseball family) was generally not as fascinated by Michael Jordan as much of the country apparently was at the time, and I basically forgot about the movie entirely for the next ten years before learning that it was a subject of controversy. The film’s supporters have apparently become numerous enough to lead to a sequel film being made with LeBron James that’s coming out next month and while I may or may not see that I suspect its release is going to inspire a new wave of discourse about the original film’s merits so it seemed like a good time to give it a re-watch since it’s readily available on HBO Max so I can have a fresher opinion about the damn thing. Temperamentally I’m generally against movies whose reputations are steeped in nostalgia so I pretty much expected to fall in with the film’s detractors and there are indeed plenty of things about this movie that are pretty bad. The film’s technical elements do not hold up very well at all, especially the moments of CGI that apply loony tune antics to Jordan and especially a bizarre sequence in which Wayne Knight is “inflated.” I also thought the techniques used to put these 2D characters into 3D planes never quite work 100%. I also think some of the Looney Tunes comedy feels a bit “off,” the film never quite uses Daffy Duck correctly and the slapstick never quite feels as inventive as it needs to be. Having said all that, I don’t quite have it in me to hate this thing. Look, the movie is a feature length sneaker commercial and a star vehicle for an athlete… it’s inherently a project that was never exactly going to be dignified and to some extent I was just impressed that they managed to make something that was even slightly watchable. The movie certainly doesn’t leave me thinking I wanted to see Michael Jordan take on Hamlet but he did prove to be a decent screen presence and plays himself fine and pairing him up with the Looney Tunes is at least a somewhat interesting idea for how to bring him to the screen. Beyond that I enjoyed some of the comedy around Jordan’s fellow basketball stars who have their talent stolen by the aliens and I do think there’s something at least a little bold and creative about building the whole movie around Jordan’s strange foray into baseball. Is that enough to save the film? Nah, but I do think there’s enough there to make some of the backlash to this thing feel a bit overblown. Most of the people who say they love it are not claiming it should have won Oscars or anything so I don’t know that there’s really a need to tear it down either. I think once the generation that loves the movie nostalgically are no longer in the cultural driver’s seat this isn’t going to start to seem like a “good” movie or a “bad” movie but instead like an odd curio of a movie that acts as a window into a very “end of history” 1990s and a testament to just how absurdly famous Michael Jordan was then. That’s basically where I am with it now. So I guess rather than take either side of that debate I guess I’m just left wanting both sides to maybe take a step back and see this thing for what it actually is rather than embuing it with a whole lot of baggage it was never built to handle. ** out of Five Good review. My own opinion of Space Jam is gratitude for this gem:
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Jun 25, 2021 12:35:26 GMT -5
Space Jam stinks. But like you said, it's harmless and some elements of it (like seeing Michael freaking Jordan star in a movie with Bugs Bunny) make it worthy enough of a half-interested viewing.
I'm not sure why so many people hold it up on a pedestal, but a lot of '80s and '90s kids have rose-colored glasses for these sorts of nostalgia trips and won't hear anything negative towards a film like Space Jam, so it's really not worth arguing with them over it anyways. And also to your point, this isn't a movie that's a critical darling or something to garner actual uproar over in retrospect.
The sequel looks like a heaping pile of shit, so perhaps it will only further fuel people's affection for the original.
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 16, 2022 18:54:56 GMT -5
Andrei RublevThis is not considered a bad movie, but I did not like it when I saw it and a revisit has long loomed large for me. Filming my recent Q&A inspired me to finally rewatch Andrei Rublev. That two-star review has been haunting me for years, but now it's time to reassess. Yeah, I was wrong on this one. Andrei Rublev is fantastic. Like Ivan's Childhood, the film is concerned with how an individual's life is thrown into chaos by social forces they have little to no influence over. As an adult and artist of some renown, Andrei certainly has more power than Ivan ever did, but he too is made a victim of history. This is evident in Chapter VI: The Raid, where an imperial force invades and lays waste to Andrei's home and his comrades in a scene of haunting power. The very structure of the film though also undermines Andrei's agency. Despite being the titular character of a biopic made on a massive scale, this is not the sort of epic that is built entirely around its protagonist. The prologue, which has no literal bearing on Andrei's story and serves more as a thematic analogue, establishes that Tarkovsky is not strictly concerned with the titular character and that holds true. In many of the episodes, Andrei is not the primary focus and is often explored through side characters instead. This is not to suggest Rublev is merely a victim. On the contrary, the film is very concerned with how Andrei's own role as an icon painter both supports, and is supported by, a church ripe with hypocrisy and sin. Rublev himself has his own religious convictions tested in ways big and small. Ultimately, the film does see power and value in Rublev's - both are translated incredibly poignantly in the film's epilogue - but nonetheless highlights the ways in which such art is inevitably bound within harmful systems. That's Andrei Rublev in broad strokes anyway, but it's worth noting that the film is actually comprised of a series of individual episodes. All of these segments are connected, usually narratively and always thematically, but are nonetheless distinct chapters, each with their own fascinating conflicts and arcs. The aforementioned Raid is most certainly the most sweeping and epic of any one chapter, but every episode delivers a fascinating micro story in its own right, every piece adding up to the greater whole. Much of these stories pay off in unexpected ways and Tarkovsky makes some really bold storytelling choices. It's very unconventional for the protagonist to be sidelined as heavily as Andrei Rublev is in the film's final chapter ("The Bell") and the movie in general slows down a lot to highlight a new character. It can be a little jarring at first, but wow does this seeming deviation culminate in an explosion of emotional and thematic power. The film on the whole is executed with staggering confidence from Tarkovsky, Andrei Rublev rich in epic production value but never feeling the need to show off or indulge in it. Rather, Tarkosky's camera gently moves through the space, absorbing the violence and brutality but also the poetry and kindness of medieval Russia. It's an exquisite movie all told, one I suspect I will be returning to before long. A+
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Post by PG Cooper on Nov 24, 2022 16:58:58 GMT -5
Yoga HosersWanted to watch this while it was still available to watch for free and I'm sort of glad I did. If I had paid money to watch Yoga Hosers I think I might have seriously fallen into a deep depression. I don't think it's overstating things to say Kevin Smith's horror-comedy of two Canadian quick-stop employees fighting hordes of tiny Nazi sausage men is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The film is, in brief, painfully unfunny, visually ugly, and completely structureless. That last point is perhaps the most frustrating aspect of Yoga Hosers. Say what you will about Tusk - a movie which, to be clear, also blows - but at least it told a coherent story with some sense of flow. With Yoga Hosers, every seen feels like its own isolated little skit that could be cut or moved with almost no consequence to the film. You can tell this movie's origins lie in stoners recording a podcast because this is similarly rambling, incohesive, and only funny to those who made the joke. I also feel I have a patriotic duty to call out how much of the film's humour rests on lame jokes about how Canadia pronounces certain words, namely sorry ("soorree") and about ("aboot"). Smith clearly thinks this is hilarious, not only because he has one of those words uttered every 5 minutes or so, but the big gag of the opening are the main characters saying "soorree aboot that" over and over again. Always a good idea to run a joke firmly into the ground from the start and then continue to make it for the next 80 minutes. Then of course there's Johnny Depp returning as the French-Canadian detective from Tusk and the character is as horrid as I remembered. Like James Corden in Cats, Depp has the distinction of being the singular most annoying thing in a movie that is already wretched. On the whole, what is there to really say about Yoga Hosers? It's astonishingly witless, painful to sit through, and frequently embarrassing for all parties involved, including and especially the viewer. And the thing that sticks out most is that the whole thing is made with such a "eh, fuck it" attitude that I'm not sure why anyone bothered. As for the cheap Canadian jokes and stereotypes, I can't say I was offended, but if my fellow countrymen would like to initiate some sort of defamation or class action lawsuit, I'm down. F
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Post by Neverending on Dec 12, 2022 3:58:06 GMT -5
SPIES LIKE US (1985)This movie is so dumb, but I love it. Chevy Chase and Crystal Skull Dan play two bumbling idiots that are used as pawns by corrupt U.S. officials. It’s directed by SnoBorderZero fav John Landis. It’s super silly, but breezy and fun and probably what Ishtar (another SnoBorderZero fav) was supposed to be. We live in tough times. Sometimes you need a sip of Crystal Head vodka and something goofy to watch at 3 in the morning. Cheers.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 12, 2022 10:11:34 GMT -5
Steel (1997)
After a VERY long time away from doing so, I decided to start going through the back catalogue of How Did This Get Made? again, and those podcasts are always funnier if you've watched the movies being covered, too. Which is why I watched the infamous 1997 disaster, Steel. In all honesty, though, this movie has long held a sort of morbid curiosity for me in terms of watching it...and I'm actually glad that I finally did. Because while this movie is in no way good or anything approaching it...it's certainly never boring, either. Nearly every single decision this movie makes is just plain bad or dumb, but to its credit, that helped ensure that it always held my attention. Not so much because I was invested even remotely in anything that was happening, but because I was fascinated to see what boneheaded decision this movie was going to make next. It goes without saying that Shaq is a charisma-less lead here, woefully out of his depth in trying to anchor a film, and even when he attempts to go for emotional moments, they come off incredibly half-hearted. You've also got Judd Nelson playing the main villain here, and if he or the filmmakers thought he would make for a menacing presence, well...joke's on them. As a superhero/comic book film overall, though, Steel just falls flat on its face and is as empty and hollow as the suit itself. It lacks any true excitement to the action scenes -- which feel as lumbering as Shaq himself probably felt in trying to walk around in the suit -- the plotting is pedestrian and uninspired, and its lead has all the charm of, well, a plate of steel. If anything, though, Steel can take solace in the fact that it's not worse than 1997's OTHER comic book movie disaster, Batman & Robin. Small victories, Steel. Small victories.
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Kazaam (1996)
I remember going to see this in theaters as a kid and choosing to see it over Matilda. If only I had a time machine...
This is even worse than I remember.
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Kazaam (1996)
I remember going to see this in theaters as a kid and choosing to see it over Matilda. If only I had a time machine...
This is even worse than I remember.
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So that means you would have been 6 or 7? Which means that mom or dad had to have taken you to see it. Someone owes their parents an apology. And they used to play the bejeezus out of Kazaam on the Disney channel back in the day. Even in the late 90s I knew that movie absolutely sucked.
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Kazaam (1996)
I remember going to see this in theaters as a kid and choosing to see it over Matilda. If only I had a time machine...
This is even worse than I remember.
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So that means you would have been 6 or 7? Which means that mom or dad had to have taken you to see it. Someone owes their parents an apology. Yup, my Mom had the unfortunate pleasure of this one. And I've apologized to her many times over for it since. It's definitely high up for her on the list of movies I tortured her with in theaters.
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Weren't she and Dolph Lundgren a thing? Yes, Grace Jones and Dolph Lundgren dated. That's how Lundgren got into the biz. He had a bit part in A View to a Kill as a bodyguard. You may be thinking of Red Sonya's Brigitte Nielsen, who was briefly married to Sly. Brigitte played Ivan Drago's Soviet handler in Rocky IV.Legend has it that Arnie had sex with Brigitte during the making of Red Sonja, even though she was with Sly. This was all confirmed in 2020 (at the height of the pandemic) by all parties involved. Sly and Arnie are Eskimo Brothers. Anyway… RED SONJA (1985)Unless the search engines deceive me, have I never discussed the Schwarzenegger “barbarian trilogy” on these boards? And SnoBorderZero never called me out on it?? Wow. Well, been ages since I’ve watched either Conan movies, so my memory on them are rather fuzzy. The original Conan is good but I do feel it’s a tad overrated. The 2nd Conan is campy as hell (written by Stan Lee’s adoptive child Roy Thomas) and I enjoy it for what it is. Now on to Red Sonja. Schwarzenegger plays Kalidor (lol) who aids Red Sonja in seeking revenge against the people that raped her and murdered her family. Along the way they meet Ernie Reyes Jr and Bluto from Popeye and hilarity ensues. The movie is terrible and wastes a perfectly good Ennio Morricone score. Fuck you, movie. But it is also charming in its own way. The dialogue is hilariously sexist. I want PG Cooper to screen it for his Gen-Z just to witness their reaction. The sword fights look worse than an Elementary school stage production of Peter Pan. Brigitte Nielsen was famously an Amazonian type woman in Rocky IV and Beverly Hills Cop II. And yet, she looks tiny as hell next to Conan and Bluto. She barely towers over Ernie Reyes Jr. How do you fuck up Brigitte Nielsen as Red Sonja? lol. This movie is a car wreck but you can’t look away.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Feb 18, 2023 14:21:00 GMT -5
Red Sonja is terrible by all accounts. I don't remember anything about it except that it sucks and makes Conan the Destroyer look like Conan the Barbarian in comparison.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 18, 2023 18:59:29 GMT -5
Red Sonja is terrible by all accounts. I don't remember anything about it except that it sucks and makes Conan the Destroyer look like Conan the Barbarian in comparison. “Red Sonja makes Die Hard 5 look like Pulp Fiction.” — DoomsdayPour one out for Bruce Willis.
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