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Post by Neverending on Sept 20, 2021 18:16:59 GMT -5
Minority Report is great, one of Spielberg's most underrated movies. Then again is it underrated? Because everyone I know who has seen it thinks it's awesome. I've only seen it a couple of times but my opinion didn't change between viewings. I should give it another spin before too long. This is arguably the last great Spielberg movie. Munich/Lincoln fanboys are a vocal minority.
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Post by thebtskink on Sept 20, 2021 18:20:01 GMT -5
The amount of research Spielberg did unto what would be conceivable tech really adds to the film.
The glove computer more or less exists now, 3d printing, the jetpack.
This movie kicks ass.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Sept 20, 2021 18:52:49 GMT -5
Minority Report is great, one of Spielberg's most underrated movies. I'll go one further and say it's one of his best movies, period. Minority Report is great, one of Spielberg's most underrated movies. Then again is it underrated? Because everyone I know who has seen it thinks it's awesome. I've only seen it a couple of times but my opinion didn't change between viewings. I should give it another spin before too long. This is arguably the last great Spielberg movie. Munich/Lincoln fanboys are a vocal minority. Munich for me.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Sept 23, 2021 12:42:55 GMT -5
Minority Report is great, one of Spielberg's most underrated movies. Then again is it underrated? Because everyone I know who has seen it thinks it's awesome. I've only seen it a couple of times but my opinion didn't change between viewings. I should give it another spin before too long. I'd say it's underrated in the sense that everyone universally agrees it's awesome but it does seem to be the seventh or eighth or ninth movie that people mention when talking Spielberg. Understandable considering that filmography, but I think calling it underrated is fair.
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Post by Fanible on Sept 24, 2021 21:11:01 GMT -5
I'd love a UHD release of Minority Report. I watch it probably once a year.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 12, 2021 23:27:08 GMT -5
You know, I actually used your super in-depth review from years ago as a sort of reference as I was (finally) doing mine. I fully acknowledge I didn't go as deep or detailed as you did, but obviously...I agree with a lot (if not everything) of what you laid out. I don't think I'll stand by that review on a rewatch. But I guess I won't know for sure. I looked it up and thought shit is A. very long and B. written in 2013, so, probably, terrible. I don't stand by that review. A.I is great.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 22, 2021 14:11:54 GMT -5
I don't think I'll stand by that review on a rewatch. But I guess I won't know for sure. I looked it up and thought shit is A. very long and B. written in 2013, so, probably, terrible. I don't stand by that review. A.I is great. Updated thoughts: It's been a long road for me and A.I., but I think I'm ready to admit that this movie is amazing. It's one of the best movies Spielberg has ever made and more broadly an engrossing piece of science-fiction. Accusations that this movie are overtly sentimental or schmaltzy miss the point entirely. Spielberg draws on a lot of his usual tricks for heartwarming wonder, but it's all a little off, deliberately so. So much of this movie plays like a tonal equivalent of the uncanny valley, where it's almost saccharine and sweet, but there's this overriding layer of inhumanity that makes the whole far more uncomfortable than a more outwardly creepy movie might be. The structure of the film is also rather brilliant. I love that we spend much of the first-act in a bubble of privilege which only hints at how awful the rest of the world is. It makes our plunge into dystopia in the second half as eye-opening for us as it is for David. This is also where Spielberg shows some of his most exciting bits of visual imagination, particularly in the Flesh Fair and the architecture of Rouge City. The special effects hold up brilliantly, but the designs are also just fascinating in concept. Beneath the visual spectacle and beauty, beneath the dystopic science-fiction, beneath the eccentric supporting cast (including a wonderful turn from Jude Law as a sex android), this is a quietly heartbreaking story about a little android boy who can never get the love he so desperately yearns for. And perhaps it's about more than that as well. David is a product, after all, and from start to finish he is used by those around him. Henry uses him to try and placate his wife's depression, Monica uses him to try to fill the void left by her real son, Martin uses him for fun and amusement, Joe uses him to escape the Flesh Fair. His entire adventure turns out to be orchestrated by Professor Hobby, a test to see how advanced his latest creation is and, again, an effort to fill his grief. Even at the end, when The Specialists grant David piece, they two are exploiting him for information about a world long past. Over and over again, A.I. makes one simple point: There's no such thing as unconditional love. Also, and this will likely drive PhantomKnight and IanTheCool nuts, but Haley Joel Osment is brilliant in this movie. Watching him grow slowly more human (or, at least, more adept at mimicking human behaviour) is heart-wrenching. This may well be his best performance. It's also easily my favourite film he's in. Can't believe I slept on A.I. for so long. A+
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 22, 2021 16:36:14 GMT -5
I don't stand by that review. A.I is great. Updated thoughts: It's been a long road for me and A.I., but I think I'm ready to admit that this movie is amazing. It's one of the best movies Spielberg has ever made and more broadly an engrossing piece of science-fiction. Accusations that this movie are overtly sentimental or schmaltzy miss the point entirely. Spielberg draws on a lot of his usual tricks for heartwarming wonder, but it's all a little off, deliberately so. So much of this movie plays like a tonal equivalent of the uncanny valley, where it's almost saccharine and sweet, but there's this overriding layer of inhumanity that makes the whole far more uncomfortable than a more outwardly creepy movie might be. The structure of the film is also rather brilliant. I love that we spend much of the first-act in a bubble of privilege which only hints at how awful the rest of the world is. It makes our plunge into dystopia in the second half as eye-opening for us as it is for David. This is also where Spielberg shows some of his most exciting bits of visual imagination, particularly in the Flesh Fair and the architecture of Rouge City. The special effects hold up brilliantly, but the designs are also just fascinating in concept. Beneath the visual spectacle and beauty, beneath the dystopic science-fiction, beneath the eccentric supporting cast (including a wonderful turn from Jude Law as a sex android), this is a quietly heartbreaking story about a little android boy who can never get the love he so desperately yearns for. And perhaps it's about more than that as well. David is a product, after all, and from start to finish he is used by those around him. Henry uses him to try and placate his wife's depression, Monica uses him to try to fill the void left by her real son, Martin uses him for fun and amusement, Joe uses him to escape the Flesh Fair. His entire adventure turns out to be orchestrated by Professor Hobby, a test to see how advanced his latest creation is and, again, an effort to fill his grief. Even at the end, when The Specialists grant David piece, they two are exploiting him for information about a world long past. Over and over again, A.I. makes one simple point: There's no such thing as unconditional love. Also, and this will likely drive PhantomKnight and IanTheCool nuts, but Haley Joel Osment is brilliant in this movie. Watching him grow slowly more human (or, at least, more adept at mimicking human behaviour) is heart-wrenching. This may well be his best performance. It's also easily my favourite film he's in. Can't believe I slept on A.I. for so long. A+Wish I could say I'm surprised...but I'm not.
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 22, 2021 17:59:34 GMT -5
Don't worry we're basically eye to eye on Always.
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Post by Doomsday on Dec 22, 2021 18:34:47 GMT -5
And you’re both on the same page with Saving Private Ryan, right?
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Post by PG Cooper on Dec 22, 2021 18:37:23 GMT -5
And you’re both on the same page with Saving Private Ryan, right? Absolutely.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Dec 22, 2021 22:46:33 GMT -5
And you’re both on the same page with Saving Private Ryan, right? Undoubtedly.
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Post by Doomsday on May 1, 2022 12:16:30 GMT -5
Which one is next? Lincoln?
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Post by IanTheCool on May 1, 2022 14:34:03 GMT -5
Which one is next? Lincoln? If he's going in order its probably Catch me if you Can
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Post by PhantomKnight on May 1, 2022 14:39:35 GMT -5
Which one is next? Lincoln? Which one is next? Lincoln? If he's going in order its probably Catch me if you Can Yeah, it's Catch Me If You Can.
I admit, this got away from me. After I covered Minority Report, came 31 Days of Halloween, then some family tragedy, followed by the wrapping-up of the AFI 80's/90's list, then holiday stuff and this year has been kinda hectic so far. But I AM gonna complete this.
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Post by Doomsday on May 1, 2022 15:21:43 GMT -5
Let’s just skip to Crystal Skull as soon as we can.
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Post by Neverending on May 2, 2022 1:15:33 GMT -5
Let’s just skip to Crystal Skull as soon as we can. He is saving Crystal Skull for when the James Mangold one comes out.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 15, 2022 14:22:40 GMT -5
Alright, let's see if we can get this thing back on track. I really didn't mean to let this thread just flap in the breeze for so long.
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN (2002)
When dealing with a director of Steven Spielberg’s status, there’s bound to be some movies in their filmography that just slip under the radar in terms of appreciation, but deserve more than it generally gets. For me, Catch Me If You Can is one such film. Up until two years ago, all of the previous times I've watched this movie, I've really liked it but have just fallen short of saying I love it. Well, that has now changed. Because this has become one of Steven Spielberg’s most underrated movies, from my perspective.
The movie's reputation has it as a fun, breezy caper, but not much more. Well, I think that might be a bit too dismissive. With my most recent viewings of it, I found the characters and story much more involving than I have before. I particularly noticed how the theme of fatherhood runs throughout this movie. The need for a stable father figure is essentially Frank's motivation for his con game. Or, rather, a stable and happy family. When his father is revealed as less-than-honest, Frank runs and is desperate to reclaim that stability. And then, of course, he finds a surrogate father figure in Carl Hanratty, and that relationship is very interesting and even complex, as well as being the beating heart of the movie. I was captivated by this relationship, as it eventually becomes a lot more engaging than you'd expect. Despite knowing he has to keep running and changing identities to avoid getting caught, Frank always seems to leave a thread for Hanratty to find and tug on, because it's a way of Frank keeping Hanratty close/in his life. And I just found that fascinating. It really reinforces the fact that Frank is still just a kid in over his head, and DiCaprio’s performance has a vulnerability and youthful innocence that effectively keeps it in perspective. Plus, it helps that both Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks play these characters beautifully, and it's easy to pick up on an undercurrent of genuine care that develops between the two of them, culminating with the surprisingly emotional Third Act, which bolsters the relationship and the film all the more. If Spielberg has subconsciously or deliberately used a lot of his films as a form of therapy to deal with whatever Daddy Issues he may have had, then I don’t mind when the results are something this great.
But on top of that, Steven Spielberg still makes sure to create a breezy caper tone, complete with 60's style and aesthetics (this movie is bright and colorful to look at, reflective of the tone and in stark contrast to Minority Report's aesthetic the same year -- proof of Spielberg's versatility as a director) that complement the story, and a severely underrated John Williams score:
This movie is always entertaining to watch in some form or another, and something that Spielberg does to achieve that is the film’s non-linear structure. He’s employed a bit of that in some of his past films, but he really leans on it here, and it helps serve the pace of the film and the way certain story beats land. Actually, connecting back to its period setting and John Williams’ score, the structure of the film could be viewed as reflective/representative of jazz music itself, which is an interesting thematic comparison the more you think about it. Something like that just goes to show not only how good Spielberg is at recreating an environment for tone/feel, but also how he can utilize certain aspects of one to help inform the storytelling. There’s a lot going on with this movie that I don’t think most people give it enough credit for.
Would I rank Catch Me If You Can among Spielberg’s absolute best films? No, I can’t go quite that far, but it speaks to the strength of this film and Spielberg’s whole filmography that something this legitimately great can’t crack the Top 10, per say, but still stand on its own as a true quality entertainment. Regardless, this is a terrific movie.
****/****
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 15, 2022 16:32:20 GMT -5
I haven't seen it in a long time but it's a lot of fun. It effortlessly blends being cool, funny and dramatic at all the right points.
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Post by donny on Aug 15, 2022 16:47:32 GMT -5
Yeah, one of my favorite Spielberg's.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 19, 2022 4:06:36 GMT -5
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN (2002) I haven't seen it in a long time but it's a lot of fun. It effortlessly blends being cool, funny and dramatic at all the right points. Yeah, one of my favorite Spielberg's.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 19, 2022 5:10:34 GMT -5
Gut laugh at the Hanks joke every time.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Sept 22, 2022 19:17:00 GMT -5
THE TERMINAL (2004)
2004’s The Terminal can be looked at as the first in what could be dubbed Steven Spielberg’s “Post-9/11 Trilogy”, because his three films after Catch Me If You Can all deal with certain attitudes/mindsets and reactions to what that fateful day meant and created in so many people afterward. But unlike both War of the Worlds and Munich, which would follow after this film, The Terminal isn’t as direct or in-your-face about any of its themes as those two, as its primary focus is on making you laugh and feel good about the world. And in terms of that purpose, The Terminal succeeds very admirably. Not only that, but I firmly believe this to be one of Steven Spielberg’s most underrated films, period. It’s not one that gets talked about a whole lot, and that’s a shame, because I think its general lightness and perceived disposability shouldn’t be counted against it because I still believe there IS value in films like these, particularly when they’re as well-made as The Terminal. The plot concerns Viktor Navorski (Tom Hanks), a citizen of the fictional country of Krakohzia, who’s come to New York with the intention of taking care of a lingering bit of business left unfinished by his late father. But while he was in the air, a coup d’etat occurred back in his homeland, and the United States no longer recognizes Krakohzia’s government – or, at least, in its new form. This leaves Viktor effectively stranded in John F. Kennedy International Airport, where his plane arrived, because his passport is no longer valid as a result of the regime change: he can’t go back home, and he can’t set foot outside in the United States. And the situation shows no signs of changing anytime soon. This seems like such a wild situation/premise to think about, but I was surprised to learn that this movie is actually loosely/partially inspired by the true story of an Iranian man named Mehran Karimi Nasseri, a refugee who arrived at Paris’s Charles de Gaulle Airport in 1988 without a passport and any papers to enter another country, and who stayed there until 2006, when the situation was finally resolved. Similarities between Navorski’s and Nasseri’s experiences include bathing in the washroom, erecting a living area with benches and accepting food vouchers from airport workers. Beyond that, the film obviously embellishes everything else to make it more suitable for the film treatment, but everything here just has an undeniably likable and endearing quality to it, that it’s hard to resist. In many respects, this is Steven Spielberg going for a Capraesque experience, and it’s something I think he pulls off very strongly. A big part of why this movie works so well is Tom Hanks, of course. The role of Viktor Navorski allows him to showcase his natural charisma, but the key here is that he knows to not go overboard with Viktor’s various qualities. Hanks adopts an accent and plays Viktor’s initial cluelessness and naivete just right, without veering over into farce. That’s because he always keeps Viktor’s humanity at the forefront, and because Hanks effortlessly sells the moments when Viktor DOES realize the reality of his current situation. Within minutes of Viktor being let loose into the airport, you’re simply won over by the guy and invested in his plight, taking delight in the ways he figures out how to conform to his new circumstances. But he’s not the only endearing character in this film. Spielberg populates the rest of it with a whole cavalcade of charming characters, from Catherine Zeta-Jones’ zippy flight attendant to Barry Shabaka Henry’s security officer to Diego Luna’s food handler and Zoe Saldana’s immigration officer, the entire cast here is wonderful, and they and Spielberg really do get you caught up in their interactions and relationships. In large part because of these characters and their chemistry together, this is a movie that fixes a smile on your face pretty much for the entire runtime. But make no mistake, Spielberg pours every ounce of effort he can into this film, because even if the subject matter may feel slighter than a lot of his other films on a thematic level, he still makes sure that the movie itself and the experience of watching it is as good as it can be. For instance, despite being set in just an airport terminal, the setting never gets dull. Spielberg finds a lot of ways of keeping the movie’s energy high and the pace constantly moving, from utilizing the setting in fresh ways throughout and always finding new ways to stage different scenes at familiar locations and whatnot. He said that his main goal with The Terminal was to make a film “that could make us laugh and cry and feel good about the world,” and he absolutely pulled it off. There’s not a cynical bone in its body. It’s a sweater movie: one that you throw on to feel nice and cozy. But at the same time, you’re presented with something sporting some real craft and skill, too. You could actually sort of see this as a companion piece to Cast Away with Tom Hanks, only this time, it’s an airport instead of an island. A very different kind of experience than Cast Away, to be sure, but one that’s no less satisfying. Your mileage with it may vary depending on how much its charm works on you, but it's hard to deny such good intentions and this sincerely affable quality.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 23, 2022 9:41:24 GMT -5
I haven't seen The Terminal since it was in theaters which was, wow, close to 20 years ago. I don't remember it being a bad movie, it was quite enjoyable but I remember thinking 'was this worth the efforts of Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks?' It felt like a story that could have been told by pretty much anyone who has some degree of competence. Like I said though, it's been a while so my opinion may have changed. I just don't think The Terminal sits too high on my immediate re-watch list.
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Post by Neverending on Sept 23, 2022 11:02:38 GMT -5
PhantomKnight and I are the de facto defenders of this movie. It also has one of the last great John Williams scores.
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