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Post by Doomsday on Dec 31, 2020 17:27:57 GMT -5
I guess we know who won’t be working on Mandalorian season 3. Not me.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 8, 2021 20:26:03 GMT -5
INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE (1989)
There’s something of a foregone conclusion in and out of Hollywood that successful third entries in franchises are hard to pull off. The ratio of good third movies to bad third movies may tend to lean more in the latter’s favor, but that doesn’t mean that there’s hardly any good third franchise movies. On that note, we arrive at Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, the third entry into the Indiana Jones trilogy (and in a perfect world, it would’ve stayed a trilogy). In the past decade especially, I’ve noticed the debate over what is the best Indiana Jones movie become more heated. Before, I always just thought it was widely accepted that Raiders of the Lost Ark was that title-holder, no questions asked. However, the contingent of fans rallying behind Last Crusade has seemed to become more and more vocal over the last couple of years. I myself have always loved Last Crusade, but more than Raiders? I’ll just come right out and say it: Last Crusade is great and everything, but there’s just no beating Raiders of the Lost Ark for me. That being said, every time I watch Last Crusade, I can see why some would prefer it because, really, it’s still a pretty awesome movie. Typically when it comes to third films in trilogies/franchises, there’s a sort of “back to basics/return to form” approach, wherein the third movie hearkens back in some way to what made the first so beloved to begin with; such is the case with Last Crusade. After the noticeably much darker Temple of Doom, Last Crusade returns to the lighter, more adventurous tone of Raiders, and does so to very rewarding effect. That’s immediately made obvious with the film’s opening sequence, a flashback (and TV show tie-in?) to a young Indy played by River Phoenix. Once it gets going, this whole sequence is a blast and really gets the movie off on the right foot. The chase that occurs on the circus train has a good feel to it, aided in no small part by the playfully exciting bit of John Williams music that accompanies it, but it’s not simply a throwaway action sequence. It also provides a nice glimpse into what Indy was like as a teen while also offering up a bit of character building as we see the makings of who he would later become. It’s a refreshing little change of pace instead of exclusively opening with the tail-end of one of Indy’s other adventures, though there is that, too. But most importantly, this opening establishes what will be the heart of the film: Indy’s relationship with his father, played wonderfully by Sean Connery. And with this being a Steven Spielberg movie, the theme of fatherhood -- specifically a character coping with having a mostly absent father figure in his life -- feels appropriate and expected. Also, having Indy’s father being his main companion on this adventure is a way that Last Crusade shakes up the formula just a little in an interesting way. For the first two films, it was mostly a female sidekick: Marion in Raiders and Willie (plus Short Round, so the movies were already shaking things up) in Temple of Doom. At first, Last Crusade seems to do the same by introducing Dr. Schneider (Allison Doody), but halfway through, bucks convention refreshingly by making her one of the Nazis -- and revealing so in a very fun way, I might add. That right there is an interesting change in dynamic, but on top of that, you throw in Henry Jones Sr. being the main sidekick, and not only does that put Indy in a slightly different but no less interesting light/position, it also sets up tons of great humor and gives the film a solid dose of heart to build its foundation off of. That’s not to say that neither of the first two had heart -- they did -- but having Indy deal with his daddy issues while also trying to be the cool action hero we know him as illuminates a side of him we haven’t seen before. The movie wisely doesn’t treat this as overly sappy or anything, instead it’s actually pretty matter-of-fact about it. But that’s why it’s so effective. This is highlighted by the simple yet effective scene between both characters on the blimp where Sr. lays out how his method of fathering may not have been the typical sort of warm father-son bonding, but no less valuable in the way it helped shape Indy as a man. And credit has to be given to Harrison Ford’s and Sean Connery’s performances in this movie for how they so vividly communicate this sort of relationship between the characters while not falling victim to the overly sentimental tropes one might expect from a set up like it; credit also goes to Jeffrey Boam’s script for the same thing. Instead of going for angsty father-son drama, it builds out the relationship by finding the honesty in it through humor, and boy does this movie have some great humor. A lot of it does indeed come from the interaction between the “Jones boys”, but much like in Raiders, a lot of it comes about naturally through the situations Indy gets himself into and the characters he interacts with. Does the movie rely too much on comedy? Absolutely not, in this case, because the humor doesn’t feel forced whatsoever, nor is it ever in any danger of becoming a farce like 1941 (and we all know how that turned out). There are some great comedic bits here, from simple dialogue exchanges and/or character interactions (honestly too many to single out) to physical bits and simple reactions to things that happen (the look of amazement Indy has after shooting a bullet through four Nazis at the same time will never not be priceless). The humor also works because it feels like it’s the franchise tonally staying in its sweet spot. Not that I object to the darker tone of Temple of Doom, but the Indiana Jones movies were born from those old school, over-the-top adventure serials, and there’s just something about seeing Indy dispatch Nazis while going after priceless artifacts that feeds so well into the tone that Steven Spielberg and George Lucas were going after from the start. On top of all that, Steven Spielberg once again directs with the same enthusiastic energy and skill for crafting both great set pieces and character-driven scenes that made the first two so awesome. He’s a big part of the reason why so many of the strengths I’ve highlighted land as well as they do, and he directs Last Crusade with the same amount of enthusiasm and heart that he brought to the first two. And that helps ensure that it’s one of the rare third movies that doesn’t disappoint. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is the perfect capper to such an excellent trilogy, sticking the landing tremendously. If only things had stopped here.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 8, 2021 20:39:25 GMT -5
Weird, I was just thinking of your upcoming review for this movie.
The tank chase might be my favorite scene in a Spielberg movie. The whole thing just works so well.
I know a lot of people prefer Last Crusade to Raiders. While I'm still a Raiders man I'm not going to argue with anyone who prefers Last Crusade because it's still great.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 8, 2021 21:00:45 GMT -5
The tank chase might be my favorite scene in a Spielberg movie. The whole thing just works so well. And one of the many ways this movie blends together action and comedy so well.
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Post by Neverending on Jan 8, 2021 21:05:11 GMT -5
I always just thought it was widely accepted that Raiders of the Lost Ark was that title-holder, no questions asked. I mentioned this last time. When I was a kid, everyone’s favorite Indiana Jones was Temple of Doom. I got the Internet and was shocked to learn it was supposed to be “the shitty one.” Last Crusade became my personal favorite in Middle School, after I had become a James Bond fan, and Sean Connery certainly factored into that. But there’s no doubt that Raiders is the iconic one of the three. It has all the famous scenes. Bro, we were having this debate 20 years ago. LOL. Nah. It’s a major shift. The first two Indiana Jones movies were very much George Lucas schlock that just happened to be directed by an A-list director. Last Crusade is the one Indiana Jones movie that is 100% Steven Spielberg. That’s why it’s “the sentimental one” and the more family-friendly of the three. It fits in with all the other 80’s “Goonies Era” Spielberg stuff. Lucas wanted to do some weird haunted house movie. No joke. But back in the 80’s people weren’t afraid to tell Lucas, “no.” I’m sure Spielberg only agreed to a third Indiana Jones if he got 100% creative control. Watch the special features on the DVD/Blu-Ray. Lucas barely says anything about this movies. Perhaps, Lucas’ only true involvement was the River Phoenix scene, which did indeed lead to the Young Indiana Jones series. A topic worthy of a PG Cooper video essay.
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Post by Doomsday on Jan 8, 2021 21:09:54 GMT -5
The tank chase might be my favorite scene in a Spielberg movie. The whole thing just works so well. And one of the many ways this movie blends together action and comedy so well. That's what makes it work so well. Most of the time when a movie or franchise tries to embrace the comedy they can't balance it at all and it really drags things down. Last Crusade is certainly more comical than Raiders and Temple of Doom but it really complements the movie.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 8, 2021 21:29:43 GMT -5
I always just thought it was widely accepted that Raiders of the Lost Ark was that title-holder, no questions asked. I mentioned this last time. When I was a kid, everyone’s favorite Indiana Jones was Temple of Doom. I got the Internet and was shocked to learn it was supposed to be “the shitty one.” Last Crusade became my personal favorite in Middle School, after I had become a James Bond fan, and Sean Connery certainly factored into that. But there’s no doubt that Raiders is the iconic one of the three. It has all the famous scenes. Like Doomsday said, I won't argue with anyone who prefers Last Crusade, but I also agree with Dracula, who once said about Raiders: "It executes like a motherfucker." And one of the many ways this movie blends together action and comedy so well. That's what makes it work so well. Most of the time when a movie or franchise tries to embrace the comedy they can't balance it at all and it really drags things down. Last Crusade is certainly more comical than Raiders and Temple of Doom but it really complements the movie. Yeah, I mentioned the great one-bullet, four-guys bit, but there's also stuff like the German pilot's face as his flaming plane is passing by the car, "I'm sorry, son. They got us.", even Hitler autographing the diary that in almost any other movie would come off as too goofy or stupid, but here, they work brilliantly.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jan 17, 2021 9:18:10 GMT -5
We'd recommend it at the Film Club, but you would never find it. Found it at the library
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Post by Neverending on Jan 17, 2021 11:02:07 GMT -5
I’ve gone through life listening to the wrong version of John Williams’ 1941 But I blame the Bostonians
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Post by Neverending on Jan 18, 2021 18:59:25 GMT -5
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (1981)
I’m jamming to the Raiders score. Let’s get John Williams that vaccine. I need the man to stick around another 10 years at least.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 31, 2021 20:39:15 GMT -5
ALWAYS (1989)
1989’s Always marked the only remaining Steven Spielberg film I’d yet to see before now. It’s also the one movie in his filmography that I always (no pun intended) forget exists. And I don’t seem to be the only. Whenever the topic of Spielberg’s career comes up, nobody ever mentions this movie. It’s not hard to see why, though. It’s not so much that this movie is actively bad so much as it is mostly unremarkable and unmemorable -- I’m actually writing this review about two weeks after having watched the film, and already, it’s largely faded from memory. When you look back at Spielberg’s output in the 80’s, though, it’s actually pretty strong, but ending it on a movie like Always...well, it’s curious. I would say that it’s a movie within his filmography that kind of sticks out like a sore thumb, but that would imply that it leaves any sort of real impression in the first place, which it ultimately doesn’t. The movie is actually a remake of a 1943 film called A Guy Named Joe, directed by Victor Fleming. Both films follow the same basic plot: an expert pilot dies in the line of duty and returns as a ghost to mentor a hopeful, young new pilot -- all while watching said pilot fall in love with the woman he left behind when he died. Always, however, moves the action from World War II and instead sets everything in the world of modern aerial firefighting. Richard Dreyfuss plays the dead pilot, Pete, Holly Hunter is Pete’s lost love Dorinda, John Goodman plays Pete’s former best friend and fellow pilot Al and Brad Johnson plays the new pilot, Ted. And one of the first things that can be said about the film is the cast is uniformly strong. Also, the movie actually gets off to a good-enough start: the first forty or so minutes, in which the movie establishes the setting, characters and their relationships with one another, are fairly interesting. Granted, it’s not top-level storytelling or anything, but the chemistry between the characters is certainly there and that stretch of the movie uses comedy pretty well while also interweaving touches of drama, to the point where I believed they could be a couple. The aerial sequences are also well-directed, especially the one in which Pete ultimately dies. Another thing I thought the movie did well was how it portrayed Pete’s ghost existing within the real world once he was back. Nobody can actually see or hear him, but rather, he can talk to people and in so doing, make them feel like his thoughts/suggestions are their own. It’s an effective method that the movie uses in terms of portraying how Pete’s mission upon returning to Earth is to help others by being their guiding force. If he had full-on interacted with anybody, it wouldn’t have worked as well. Oh, and of course, John Williams provides yet another strong score. But the film runs into some problems in a lot of other areas. First of all, despite the best of intentions, the movie isn’t quite the sweeping romance it wants to be. The issue there doesn’t lie with the relationship between Dreyfuss and Hunter, because I bought into their scenes together and there’s one in the second half where Pete’s ghost lays beside Dorinda while she sleeps and sort of communicates with her that’s pretty nice. Instead, the issue is with Dorinda and Brad Johnson’s Ted falling in love. I never thought Holly Hunter or Brad Johnson had a particularly strong sense of chemistry with each other, but more specifically, I never bought into Ted as a character to begin with. Ted is shown to be this dreamy hunk of a guy, but also a klutzy sort-of idiot with unrequited feelings for Dorinda at first -- and this is even established pretty early on, as if he was “meant to be” with Dorinda. He’s also the source of a lot of the comedy in the film’s second half, but I just always thought the characterization felt slightly out of place for the kind of story the movie was trying to tell. It’s not that a movie like this can’t have a lighter side, but basing said lighter side in almost slapstick-style comedy in regards to this character felt forced and out of place to me. Fortunately, though, the comedy never reaches the heights of stupidity on display in 1941, so that’s a plus. Nevertheless, Ted is still emblematic of the movie’s oftentimes flip-flopping of tones. Also, while Always can’t be faulted for lack of trying or heart put into the movie, nothing it does ever really comes across as particularly exceptional or even good. Like I said before, the movie’s ultimately pretty unmemorable once you let it marinate. It was actually a passion project for Steven Spielberg and Richard Dreyfuss, too. The two shared their love for A Guy Named Joe on the set of Jaws and wanted to remake it ever since, and while you can certainly pick up on that passion in the first forty minutes, the rest of the film just loses something. Its romance becomes slightly too sappy, the drama too melodramatic and the comedy too out of place a lot of the time. And even though I haven’t seen A Guy Named Joe, this overall plot feels like it would work in the context of World War II. By updating it to modern aerial firefighting, it makes this movie feel like there’s something missing from the premise to get it to truly connect with the viewer. Another thing: even though this film was released years before Ghost, there are definite comparisons to be drawn between both films, but Ghost at least seemed to have a better grasp on this type of story and what kind of movie it wanted to be overall. Always is the kind of film with the best of intentions, but not the best of executions.
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Post by Dracula on Jan 31, 2021 21:37:05 GMT -5
And even though I haven’t seen A Guy Named Joe, this overall plot feels like it would work in the context of World War II. By updating it to modern aerial firefighting, it makes this movie feel like there’s something missing from the premise to get it to truly connect with the viewer. That would be the heart of the problem; it wildly overestimates how interesting aerial firefighting is and probably greatly exaggerates how dangerous it is, at least in comparison to second world war dogfighting. A Guy Named Joe is very much a movie that exists to make sense of wartime sacrifice and to act as a sort of romantic and optimistic take on losses so many people were experiencing. That just doesn't work when applied to a niche and likely not nearly as dangerous job like aerial firefighting. The whole idea behind this remake was intrinsically flawed from the onset.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jan 31, 2021 22:11:42 GMT -5
And even though I haven’t seen A Guy Named Joe, this overall plot feels like it would work in the context of World War II. By updating it to modern aerial firefighting, it makes this movie feel like there’s something missing from the premise to get it to truly connect with the viewer. That would be the heart of the problem; it wildly overestimates how interesting aerial firefighting is and probably greatly exaggerates how dangerous it is, at least in comparison to second world war dogfighting. A Guy Named Joe is very much a movie that exists to make sense of wartime sacrifice and to act as a sort of romantic and optimistic take on losses so many people were experiencing. That just doesn't work when applied to a niche and likely not nearly as dangerous job like aerial firefighting. The whole idea behind this remake was intrinsically flawed from the onset. Yeah, I just watched Siskel & Ebert's review of it, and Ebert had the same criticism, but he was coming at it more from the angle of "firefighting just doesn't seem like a profession people would be willing to give their lives for," but that wasn't what I was getting at. What I meant -- and what you said and Ebert missed the point of -- is that WWII fighter pilot is a profession where you can really examine and contemplate the importance of sacrifice that can come with the job. Not that firefighters aren't willing to risk their lives to save others, but it doesn't really carry the same type of weight as that of a fighter pilot's similar resolve.
If Spielberg had just kept the WWII setting, maybe it would've worked better.
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Post by Doomsday on Feb 8, 2021 1:03:13 GMT -5
I watched Always a few years back and aside from the general plot I don't remember a whole lot of it, nothing about it really stuck with me. One thing that did though was that there were a few times that it tried to be funny and each time it was just really out of place. I don't know if Spielberg was trying to make it more lighthearted here and there but I remember a couple times I just thought 'what?' It's one of those movies that for some reason doesn't really try to be anything other than mediocre. It doesn't try to elevate an average premise, it knows that it's average and just flounders in it. It's a weird thing coming from a Spielberg movie.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 8, 2021 1:38:53 GMT -5
I watched Always a few years back and aside from the general plot I don't remember a whole lot of it, nothing about it really stuck with me. That seems to be the general consensus. I mean, as awful as 1941 is, at least I'll remember it for that. Given some of his comments from earlier in the thread, it seems that's the reason Neverending might argue that Always is the worse movie between the two, but nah, I'd much rather sit through Always again than fucking 1941.
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HOOK (1991)
When talking about a director of Steven Spielberg’s stature, we all obviously a movie of his that we can point to and say, “That was the first Spielberg movie I ever saw.” And because of that, said movie holds a special place in our hearts. For me, that film is 1991’s Hook, about a grown-up Peter Pan who is forced to return to Neverland in order to rescue his kidnapped children and vanquish lifelong enemy Captain Hook once and for all. Yes indeed, Hook was my first-ever experience with Steven Spielberg. At the time, I was maybe five or so and clearly unaware of his status in Hollywood, but you know, I’m glad Hook was the movie I popped my Spielberg Cherry with. To 99% of you reading this, I bet this movie is just another average, bland and/or unremarkable family film that just so happens to be directed by the Hollywood Great. If so, then, most of all...I feel so sorry for you. Because this movie is just a whole lot of damn fun. I’d probably go so far as to call it the most underrated in Spielberg’s filmography, depending on what angle I look at it from. Before this film, Spielberg tackled a full-on family film with E.T. But whereas that movie has a more low-key charm about it, Hook is a movie that wears its heart on its sleeve, and proudly so. It’s a movie about Peter Pan and Neverland, so of course it would have a more playful, colorful and boisterous atmosphere. And the movie is all the better for it.
Now, obviously, Hook isn’t widely considered to be among Spielberg’s best, but I’m here to say that it most certainly is for me. It’s not just a case of pure nostalgia, either. Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t a factor, but that’s not the only reason. The story and characters are still legitimately captivating to me, and the film itself taps into that combination of childlike glee/wonder and mischief you’d want from a movie about Peter Pan. And, call me crazy, but given Hook’s playful and energetic tone and its perfect blend of fun and pathos, I honestly do prefer it to E.T.
I suppose I should confront the issue of the film’s current reception up front. If you’re somebody who didn’t grow up with this movie like I did, sure, I can buy that you might not be so into it. But again, I just feel pity for you if you’re one of those people. You’ve just forgotten how to fly and how to crow. Even Steven Spielberg himself can try to talk down/disown the movie all he wants, but if I ever met him, I’d tell him basically, “Stop it, Steven. Don’t try to make the naysayers happy. You made a legitimately wonderful movie here.”
In terms of the touches Spielberg brings to the table here, it’s all really effective stuff, from the big flourishes to the little things. Starting with the way he visualizes Neverland, I love the production design. From the vibrant use of colors to how some shots have almost a painting-like quality (particularly the scenery in the shot when Peter gets his first good look at the environment from the summit on the Lost Boys’ island), to the set decorations and sets themselves, it all has a fun and inviting feel to it. Yes, a lot of the sets in Neverland have a very soundstage look to them, but that’s part of the charm of this movie. And then tonally, Spielberg naturally finds a nice groove between swashbuckling, family-friendly and legitimately funny in ways that feel natural and never overbearingly childish. You can even call it goofy or silly in a lot of instances, but again, it’s the charming kind of silliness that just inherently works for this kind of movie. In addition to that, Spielberg works in touches, sly jokes and general humor to keep the older audience entertained. Even in a fun fantasy movie like this, he still manages to slip in dashes of darkness; look at the sequence where Peter’s kids are kidnapped. It’s honestly a very cool sequence that allows Spielberg to flex his horror muscles a bit. Also, a detail about that scene and the moment later on when Smee leads a procession to return Hook’s hook to him -- we see a green light both invade the kids’ bedrooms and waiting in the Captain’s cabin of his ship. I now theorize that Captain Hook’s hook keeps him corporeal and when he ventures into the real world without it, he becomes a mass of powerful green smoke. What does that have to do with anything? Nothing; it’s just a small, random detail, but one of the things I now think about after so many years of watching this movie over and over.
Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah -- even though some may look at this as one of Spielberg’s lesser films (which I vehemently disagree with), I don’t think you can look at it and claim that he put no less effort into it than any of his others.
Hook is not the kind of family film that caters to only one demographic, either; there’s a lot of things to enjoy about it even after you’ve grown all up. Assuming, of course, that maturity hasn’t disillusioned you too much. Looking back on all the times I watched Hook as a kid, I never realized how cleverly the script sprinkles in some nice doses of humor for adults, and it’s exactly that kind of stuff that only adds to my enjoyment of the film all these years later. Putting all sense of nostalgia aside, though, at the heart of Hook lies a simple, yet endearing message: to never lose touch of who you really are as you grow up. This movie handles that idea really well while it simultaneously provides an interesting journey through the psychology of Peter Pan. In a way, Hook adds just a dash of a darker color to this rainbow, of sorts, but it never loses sight of the story’s soul. It attacks the Peter Pan story from a more emotional angle, and allows us to connect with it in a way we never have before.
Building off that point, call me crazy, but I find Robin Williams’ performance here to be one of the best of his career. Normally, Williams opted for the more wacky individuals, especially around the time this movie was made, but in this movie, we started to see what he was capable of from a more dramatic standpoint. Hear me out on this -- Williams handles Peter’s arc from an uptight businessman to a mischievous hero with great skill, and there’s never a moment in this film where I doubt his performance. When Peter dons the green tights again, Williams gets some good moments to really showcase his energetically comedic talents, but at the same time, there’s still an undercurrent of seriousness there that does give the impression that he’s not the reinvented Peter Banning, but rather the reawakened, yet slightly more mature Peter Pan. Needless to say, I find this to be one of Robin Williams’ more underrated roles.
But what good is a great hero without a great villain? I’m gonna come right out and say it: Dustin Hoffman as Captain Hook is one of my favorite villain performances ever. Hoffman doesn’t exactly reach the more scary heights of people like Anthony Perkins or Heath Ledger, but at the same time, Hoffman isn’t trying to reach that level. Hoffman is more interested in achieving the kind of menace that’s born out of smarmy charm. And that’s the pleasantly dramatic irony here – that despite playing a notorious pirate captain, Dustin Hoffman brings a certain level of sophistication to Captain Hook that actually contrasts well with his more vicious moments. Especially through the method in which Hook enacts his plan to get revenge on Peter, there’s a snakelike charm that epitomizes the character, and we can’t help but love him in that fun villain sort of way. Dustin Hoffman is clearly having fun in the role, and we’re having fun with him. He’s never a bore to watch in this movie. Not to mention, Hook has many great lines here. Oh, and Bob Hoskins as Smee? Just as entertaining as Hoffman.
Another great thing about Hook? The magnificent score by John Williams, which is one of my top two favorite scores from the lauded composer. As cliché as this will undoubtedly sound, there’s only one word with which to describe this score: magical. I love it so much, in fact, that two years ago, I finally found online/bought an actual hard copy of the Limited Edition 2-CD Score that contains basically the entirety of the film’s score, as the soundtrack runs 142 minutes, same as the movie. So many great tracks, from Presenting the Hook to The Never-Feast/The Banquet, Remembering Childhood, etc. It really is some of Williams’ most rousing music and some of his finest work, period.
As you can tell, Hook is a movie that means a lot to me, but not just out of nostalgia. The vast majority of Spielberg’s films before it were decidedly older-skewing, but Hook proved he could just as easily dabble into the fluffiness of family-friendly cinema and put his stamp on it. Yes, he’d already made E.T., but the two movies couldn’t be more different from each other -- but that’s not a bad thing. It’s one of his movies you can look at and find something for everyone. Whether you want an adventurous swashbuckler, a story of not forgetting the magic of childhood, a fun fantasy-comedy or just a fresh Peter Pan tale, Hook has it all.
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Are you competing with 1godzillafan? That review is longer than the Vietnam memorial.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 10, 2021 19:35:11 GMT -5
Are you competing with 1godzillafan ? That review is longer than the Vietnam memorial. It's Hook. Gotta pull out all the stops.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 10, 2021 19:37:31 GMT -5
Are you competing with 1godzillafan ? That review is longer than the Vietnam memorial. It's Hook. Gotta pull out all the stops. That mediocre ass movie?
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 10, 2021 19:41:39 GMT -5
It's Hook. Gotta pull out all the stops. That mediocre ass movie? Oh, you two-toned zebra-headed, slime-coated, pimple-farmin' paramecium brain, munchin' on your own mucus, suffering from Peter Pan envy...
No.
That wonderful family fantasy movie.
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Post by IanTheCool on Feb 10, 2021 20:33:02 GMT -5
Well that was unexpected. But not really.
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Post by thebtskink on Feb 10, 2021 21:06:09 GMT -5
There are two kinds of people. Those that recognize Hook as the fantastic fun that it is, and those that are wrong.
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Post by Neverending on Feb 10, 2021 21:30:33 GMT -5
HOOK 1991 Hook is truly a bizarre movie. It has plenty of quintessential Steven Spielberg moments and a kickass John Williams score, but the script makes zero sense. Let’s break it down. After the classic adventures of Peter Pan and Wendy, Peter Pan continues to visit Wendy every spring until she’s too old to go on further escapades. So he retaliates by shagging up with her granddaughter. My man, what!? Then once he gets that sweet pussy he entirely forgets he was Peter Pan and goes on to live a regular upper middle class existence until Captain Hook reappears and kidnaps his children and the only way he can rescue them again is by becoming Peter Pan once again. Who the fuck greenlit this screenplay? Regardless, we’re in this mess. Can Spielberg get himself out of it? Not really. The script proposes a premise that Spielberg completely ignores. While Peter Pan is busy rediscovering himself, Hook is bonding with his kids. That really should have been the meat of the story. The whole point of this movie was for Spielberg to explore the absentee father trope that Dracula loves so much, but can you imagine spicing that up with the notion of another man raising your kids? Now you’re going into divorced dad territory which is probably a lot more relatable to audiences. But Spielberg squanders that by focusing on Peter’s shenanigans with the Lost Boys and his romance with Tinker Bell (did he forget Peter Pan has a wife). Also, Ruffio goes out like a bitch and that’s unacceptable. Sorry to shit on Doomsday ’s favorite 1990’s movie but it’s alright at best. The moments that work are great but the moments that don’t are utter garbage. Mixed bag.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Feb 10, 2021 22:16:43 GMT -5
There are two kinds of people. Those that recognize Hook as the fantastic fun that it is, and those that are wrong. I knew there was a reason why I liked you.
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Post by PG Cooper on Feb 11, 2021 13:23:51 GMT -5
I'll grant that the movie's production design is pretty cool and just kind of leave it at that.
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