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Post by Fanible on Apr 1, 2020 12:49:49 GMT -5
Finally got around to seeing Cats, just out of curiosity (no pun intended). This was quite a fascinating piece of cinema. It looked bad. I heard it was bad, but I still had no idea just how bad it really was. Some movies you can go into and be like, "Yeah, it wasn't good, but it wasn't nearly what everyone was making it out to be". Not this movie. It was one of the worst wide released films I've ever seen. The cast and crew involved just make it more astounding.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 1, 2020 13:09:35 GMT -5
That's exactly why I want to watch it. I want to experience how so many talented people could make something like that and I'm excited.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Apr 3, 2020 13:42:59 GMT -5
YES!
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
IT HAPPENED!
I'm going to save this so me and a friend can watch it together. But a Lindsay Ellis video on Cats is quite possibly the savior the world needs right now.
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Post by Deexan on Apr 3, 2020 22:35:24 GMT -5
Buttholes?
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Post by Deexan on Apr 7, 2020 11:44:58 GMT -5
"Effects artists discuss the Butthole Cut" is one of those sentences you really have to take a moment to savour.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Apr 7, 2020 11:53:18 GMT -5
Coronavirus or not, the last six months of Cats talk has made this world bearable.
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Post by Doomsday on Apr 7, 2020 13:00:46 GMT -5
It's insane what VFX houses and artists do on a regular basis. 30+ hour shifts, sleeping at their desks, none of that is uncommon. How anyone can work at one of those places in the long-term is beyond me.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 7, 2020 13:16:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I gotta see this for myself.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 7, 2020 17:33:16 GMT -5
It's insane what VFX houses and artists do on a regular basis. 30+ hour shifts, sleeping at their desks, none of that is uncommon. How anyone can work at one of those places in the long-term is beyond me. Post production gets absolutely no respect. On set, we're so spoiled and throw money away on the most frivolous of things. Post production is constantly working under the gun and under barrages of impatience from producers and directors that have no clue how long their processes take but demand perfection instantly, as you can see here with Tom Hooper. It's similar to the issues with assistants' pay and treatment in our industry; it's just disgusting how these two factions are constantly treated from project to project. These VFX houses in particular are operating on razor thin margins, and it's not uncommon for even the ones that work on blockbuster projects to go belly up shortly after. Assistants are staging their protests for better working wages and conditions. I'm shocked that post production people aren't doing the same...yet.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 7, 2020 18:30:12 GMT -5
It's insane what VFX houses and artists do on a regular basis. 30+ hour shifts, sleeping at their desks, none of that is uncommon. How anyone can work at one of those places in the long-term is beyond me. Assistants are staging their protests for better working wages and conditions. I'm shocked that post production people aren't doing the same...yet. Scared of being outsourced maybe?
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Post by PG Cooper on Apr 7, 2020 18:40:37 GMT -5
Was really hoping when I saw this thread updated it was because Drac had watched Cats.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 7, 2020 18:52:45 GMT -5
Was really hoping when I saw this thread updated it was because Drac had watched Cats. We can Venmo him whatever it takes to make it happen. But we need a review in return, five paragraphs MINIMUM.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 7, 2020 18:53:42 GMT -5
I remember seeing this. Astounding that a movie could be the literal backbone of a two billion dollar grossing film, and shut down. Things really need to change, I feel for post production workers out there. They've got it really rough and no one seems to care.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 7, 2020 18:54:21 GMT -5
Assistants are staging their protests for better working wages and conditions. I'm shocked that post production people aren't doing the same...yet. Scared of being outsourced maybe? That's exactly what it is. "Oh you don't like it? Well a company in China will do it at half the rate in half the time, so..."
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Post by Neverending on Apr 7, 2020 19:00:47 GMT -5
Scared of being outsourced maybe? That's exactly what it is. "Oh you don't like it? Well a company in China will do it at half the rate in half the time, so..." That’s what happened with TV cartoons. Most are made in Asia.
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Post by Dracula on Apr 7, 2020 19:03:13 GMT -5
Was really hoping when I saw this thread updated it was because Drac had watched Cats. We can Venmo him whatever it takes to make it happen. But we need a review in return, five paragraphs MINIMUM. I've seen enough videos and read enough reviews that it feels like I've seen it even though I haven't. Whatever shock value there is to it has been diluted to the point I don't care.
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Post by SnoBorderZero on Apr 7, 2020 19:22:28 GMT -5
We can Venmo him whatever it takes to make it happen. But we need a review in return, five paragraphs MINIMUM. I've seen enough videos and read enough reviews that it feels like I've seen it even though I haven't. Whatever shock value there is to it has been diluted to the point I don't care. Some things you just have to see for yourself.
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Post by Deexan on Apr 8, 2020 2:18:55 GMT -5
I've seen enough videos and read enough reviews that it feels like I've seen it even though I haven't. Whatever shock value there is to it has been diluted to the point I don't care. Some things you just have to see for yourself.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Apr 13, 2020 8:44:20 GMT -5
There are simultaneously no words to describe this thing, and not enough. It just astounds me that anybody at Universal looked at this and in good conscience said, "Yeah, release this to the public." I'm sure it's only a matter of time before there's some kind of behind the scenes tell-all book or something about the making of this film, and I for one can't wait to hear that full story. Cause I look at this thing and struggle to find any positives in a movie featuring the work of so many clearly talented individuals. Well, okay, there are two positives: the songs themselves are sometimes pretty good and catchy (but they come at the cost of the accompanying visuals), and Ian McKellen somehow comes out of this having given a somewhat decent performance. At least he committed to it. Everything else...yikes. I can't remember the last time a big budget studio production made so many bad decisions on so many levels. I mean, you've got a musical number featuring cockroaches with human faces for the love of Christ. WHAT? Just how many drugs did this cast and crew do? I'll say this: it's so stupefyingly bad that you can't take yours eyes off it and in that respect, I AM glad I saw it for myself. But to say Cats is one of the worst big budget studio movies of the past or any other decade would be a severe understatement. It's bound to gain The Room-levels of notoriety, and it already has.
1/2 /****
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Post by 1godzillafan on Apr 14, 2020 13:30:30 GMT -5
Every Honest Trailer is worse than Cats.
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