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Post by Nilade on Aug 6, 2021 2:11:12 GMT -5
Caught up with The Hunt from last round. Full review soon. In short, I didn't like it. Sorry, Nilade. Don't mean to be a downer. Oh, you ended up going with The Hunt? I thought you were gonna do Seoul Station. No worries. Can't like what you don't like.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 6, 2021 10:24:36 GMT -5
Caught up with The Hunt from last round. Full review soon. In short, I didn't like it. Sorry, Nilade. Don't mean to be a downer. Oh, you ended up going with The Hunt? I thought you were gonna do Seoul Station. That was the plan, but then my girlfriend was having trouble with her Shudder log-in and I realized I had the wrong The Hunt thought of when I first saw your picks (I was thinking of the Danish film) so I shifted focus. Anyway, while I'm here: The Hunt (2020)The Hunt is a riff on The Most Dangerous Game but set in the thick of Trumpian culture wars, a fact that the film itself transparently revels in from the start. Within minutes it's obvious that the film's villains are elite and wealthy liberals who have kidnapped an assortment of "deplorables" (rednecks, racists, conspiracy theorists, gun-owners, etc.) to hunt them for sport. The intended message, I think, is a parable about the hopeless stupidity of the culture war which creates division and harms us all. I don't think this message works, in large part because the film needs to resort to the most extreme and vulgar exaggerations in order to draw equivalency between the two sides. It's also perhaps ironic that the film casts the liberals as the killers when conservative news outlets and conspiracy theorists now spout anti-vax rhetoric that really is getting people killed...so that aged well. Really, I have a hard time seeing this movie in any other way than as a fantasy for conservatives, or perhaps more accurately, anti-SJWs, to cast themselves as the victims triumphing over the smug and out of touch liberals. I'm rather emphatically not that audience but even if I was I still don't think I'd like this movie very much. To quote Roger Ebert's review of Atlas Shrugged, "it's not enough that a movie agree with you", and The Hunt, with its smug tone and insincere attitude, is annoying in a way that is somehow more primal than its political ideology. Perhaps that's because The Hunt doesn't really have any ideology or convictions beyond spite. That's the thing about this movie: it screams its politics as characters tear through a dictionary of online buzzwords but there isn't much substance behind any of it. Looking past all that, the movie is not without its charms. The full is pretty clever about arriving at a protagonist, Betty Gilpin is a compelling screen presence, and there are a couple of gore gags which work okay, but all these charms are in service of an aimless movie whose pat assessments of modern culture wars are neither insightful or entertaining. D-
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Post by Nilade on Aug 6, 2021 14:22:35 GMT -5
Oh, you ended up going with The Hunt? I thought you were gonna do Seoul Station. That was the plan, but then my girlfriend was having trouble with her Shudder log-in and I realized I had the wrong The Hunt thought of when I first saw your picks (I was thinking of the Danish film) so I shifted focus. Anyway, while I'm here: The Hunt (2020)The Hunt is a riff on The Most Dangerous Game but set in the thick of Trumpian culture wars, a fact that the film itself transparently revels in from the start. Within minutes it's obvious that the film's villains are elite and wealthy liberals who have kidnapped an assortment of "deplorables" (rednecks, racists, conspiracy theorists, gun-owners, etc.) to hunt them for sport. The intended message, I think, is a parable about the hopeless stupidity of the culture war which creates division and harms us all. I don't think this message works, in large part because the film needs to resort to the most extreme and vulgar exaggerations in order to draw equivalency between the two sides. It's also perhaps ironic that the film casts the liberals as the killers when conservative news outlets and conspiracy theorists now spout anti-vax rhetoric that really is getting people killed...so that aged well. Really, I have a hard time seeing this movie in any other way than as a fantasy for conservatives, or perhaps more accurately, anti-SJWs, to cast themselves as the victims triumphing over the smug and out of touch liberals. I'm rather emphatically not that audience but even if I was I still don't think I'd like this movie very much. To quote Roger Ebert's review of Atlas Shrugged, "it's not enough that a movie agree with you", and The Hunt, with its smug tone and insincere attitude, is annoying in a way that is somehow more primal than its political ideology. Perhaps that's because The Hunt doesn't really have any ideology or convictions beyond spite. That's the thing about this movie: it screams its politics as characters tear through a dictionary of online buzzwords but there isn't much substance behind any of it. Looking past all that, the movie is not without its charms. The full is pretty clever about arriving at a protagonist, Betty Gilpin is a compelling screen presence, and there are a couple of gore gags which work okay, but all these charms are in service of an aimless movie whose pat assessments of modern culture wars are neither insightful or entertaining. D-Fair assessment. I remember my wife and I giggling at how silly this movie was last year as we viewed it over a bottle of wine. Gave us a chance to poke fun at stereotypes of ourselves, especially at a time where we continue to distance ourselves from some of our conservative leaning friends who have been evolving into conspiracy nuts (I'm of the opinion that all conservatives live up to their stereotypes). The film's not as clever as it wants to be, but the lead was interesting and the kills were fun. Plus, it pissed Trump off when it came out, so there's that.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 6, 2021 15:36:11 GMT -5
I think Nilade missed out on just how hated The Hunt was here when it first came out. That's probably the one time Dracula, PhantomKnight, and I stood united saying "Fuck this movie."
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Post by Dracula on Aug 6, 2021 15:49:54 GMT -5
I think Nilade missed out on just how hated The Hunt was here when it first came out. That's probably the one time Dracula , PhantomKnight , and I stood united saying "Fuck this movie." That movie came out right as the pandemic was really getting bad (last movie I saw in theaters pre-lockdown) and right as the primary was wrapping up and I was about as nervous about the future of the country as possible... it was about the last movie I, the country, or the world needed. One of the worst experiences I've ever had with a movie.
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Post by Nilade on Aug 6, 2021 16:13:04 GMT -5
I think Nilade missed out on just how hated The Hunt was here when it first came out. That's probably the one time Dracula , PhantomKnight , and I stood united saying "Fuck this movie." That movie came out right as the pandemic was really getting bad (last movie I saw in theaters pre-lockdown) and right as the primary was wrapping up and I was about as nervous about the future of the country as possible... it was about the last movie I, the country, or the world needed. One of the worst experiences I've ever had with a movie. Well, when you say it like that...
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 6, 2021 16:39:32 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to watch it now, just out of morbid curiosity.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 6, 2021 17:40:57 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to watch it now, just out of morbid curiosity. Good gore action and Betty Gilpin is great, but this movie has the personality of a tween throwing a temper tantrum.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 8, 2021 10:53:35 GMT -5
The Sweet Hereafter
Knowing nothing about the movie and just assuming based on the title alone, I thought The Sweet Hereafter might be a romance movie, a romantic comedy maybe? Perhaps a romance/drama. There had to be something whimsical about it. Why not? It seems like a light and sweet enough title. Well I was wrong. I couldn't have been more wrong. There is no way I could have been further from what the film was actually about. I guess that's a good thing as it was able to tap into my emotions more directly and for a movie like this it only added to the viewing experience, an experience that I think would deeply affect some and put others off.
Told in a somewhat non-linear structure, The Sweet Hereafter follows Mitchell (Ian Holm), a lawyer who arrives in a small, snow-covered town where a bus crash has just occurred killing several young children and destroying the lives of their families. He attempts to track down enough parents who will agree to file a lawsuit in order to collect damages from someone, anyone, whoever was responsible for this. You do get a sense that he's driven by compassion as he also is dealing with his own loss of having a drug addicted daughter who constantly takes advantage of him and he tries to relate to the parents through their mutual sense of sorrow. It's ultimately a story of a few primary characters as it builds up to the event and what happens subsequently. At times it feels like a much more subdued Alejandro Iñárritu film in the way it's constructed and executed. It's interesting because the movie doesn't really wrap up, you could say that it leaves some loose ends that a viewer might wish for a film to address but I think the main point of the movie is to highlight how personal tragedy can reach much further beyond those it directly affects. The heartfelt and dramatic acting and brooding, lingering shots establish a sense of dread and foreboding even after the crash has taken place and the barren, desolate environment only heightens the sense of despair and dread. It's an extremely effective movie on all fronts.
As someone with two daughters this was a tough watch but a very emotional and powerful one nonetheless. It's an engrossing, sad, powerful movie that got my emotions going in ways that few other movies have been able to do. PhantomKnight, thanks and damn you to hell.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 8, 2021 12:29:34 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to watch it now, just out of morbid curiosity. Good gore action and Betty Gilpin is great, but this movie has the personality of a tween throwing a temper tantrum. Really? I thought Gilpin was terrible in it, right on down to that annoying face she made for most of the movie. Some kind of puckered or pursed lips look that just looked stupid. The Sweet HereafterKnowing nothing about the movie and just assuming based on the title alone, I thought The Sweet Hereafter might be a romance movie, a romantic comedy maybe? Perhaps a romance/drama. There had to be something whimsical about it. Why not? It seems like a light and sweet enough title. Well I was wrong. I couldn't have been more wrong. There is no way I could have been further from what the film was actually about. I guess that's a good thing as it was able to tap into my emotions more directly and for a movie like this it only added to the viewing experience, an experience that I think would deeply affect some and put others off. Told in a somewhat non-linear structure, The Sweet Hereafter follows Mitchell (Ian Holm), a lawyer who arrives in a small, snow-covered town where a bus crash has just occurred killing several young children and destroying the lives of their families. He attempts to track down enough parents who will agree to file a lawsuit in order to collect damages from someone, anyone, whoever was responsible for this. You do get a sense that he's driven by compassion as he also is dealing with his own loss of having a drug addicted daughter who constantly takes advantage of him and he tries to relate to the parents through their mutual sense of sorrow. It's ultimately a story of a few primary characters as it builds up to the event and what happens subsequently. At times it feels like a much more subdued Alejandro Iñárritu film in the way it's constructed and executed. It's interesting because the movie doesn't really wrap up, you could say that it leaves some loose ends that a viewer might wish for a film to address but I think the main point of the movie is to highlight how personal tragedy can reach much further beyond those it directly affects. The heartfelt and dramatic acting and brooding, lingering shots establish a sense of dread and foreboding even after the crash has taken place and the barren, desolate environment only heightens the sense of despair and dread. It's an extremely effective movie on all fronts. As someone with two daughters this was a tough watch but a very emotional and powerful one nonetheless. It's an engrossing, sad, powerful movie that got my emotions going in ways that few other movies have been able to do. PhantomKnight, thanks and damn you to hell. A- so says Doomsday Let this be a lesson for you: look up what these movies are about first. But yeah, as heavy as that movie is, it had me hooked from beginning to end. I got recommended it in here myself by Justin a number of years back. Also, it just now occurred to me that two movies on my list that I was pretty sure you hadn't seen -- this one and Let Him Go -- both deal with the grief involved in losing a child. Boy, I sure know how to pick 'em.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 8, 2021 15:46:30 GMT -5
I try know as little as possible about a movie before seeing it lest it affect my reception of it. I might look up the director but I try to keep away from any major plot points short of the overall synopsis. For Sweet Hereafter though I missed just about everything as you could tell.
And I actually watched Let Him Go a couple weeks ago when I saw it on HBO Max and I knew you had enjoyed it. I liked a lot about it. It's certainly a different movie and has a unique blend of dramatic western and savage thriller. I don't know it it was completely up my alley and I'm not sure if it meshed entirely as desired but there was some good stuff to take away from it. I enjoyed Sweet Hereafter more so I'm glad I was able to catch both.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 8, 2021 16:52:07 GMT -5
Love going in blind on these recs and lists.
Florida Project, City of God, and A Separation were very much enhanced in my case by doing that.
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Post by Doomsday on Aug 17, 2021 0:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by Dracula on Aug 22, 2021 19:59:21 GMT -5
Sorry, been distracted by trying to watch all this Disney shit before my one month D+ subscription needs to be renewed.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 23, 2021 9:59:22 GMT -5
My excuse is it was my birthday yesterday so you have to be nice to me.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 23, 2021 14:01:44 GMT -5
My excuse is getting the Top 100 1980-1999 thread up and running and being busy this past weekend seeing The Night House and Reminiscence. But I'll be watching Ran very, very soon.
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Post by PG Cooper on Aug 23, 2021 14:18:30 GMT -5
My excuse is getting the Top 100 1980-1999 thread up and running and being busy this past weekend seeing The Night House and Reminiscence. But I'll be watching Ran very, very soon. Good timing given it's almost certainly cracking the list.
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Post by PhantomKnight on Aug 23, 2021 14:26:38 GMT -5
My excuse is getting the Top 100 1980-1999 thread up and running and being busy this past weekend seeing The Night House and Reminiscence. But I'll be watching Ran very, very soon. Good timing given it's almost certainly cracking the list. Based on its reputation alone, if it doesn't do so right away, I'll be shocked.
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Post by Nilade on Aug 24, 2021 11:18:26 GMT -5
Taking advantage of the one week buffer this time. Will try to have up by the weekend.
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 24, 2021 12:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by thebtskink on Aug 27, 2021 10:00:25 GMT -5
Sorry, work is crushing me right now.
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Post by Dracula on Aug 27, 2021 10:43:49 GMT -5
Girlfriends (1978) Claudia Weill’s 1978 film Girlfriends was not very widely discussed (or at least I hadn’t heard of it) until recently when Criterion took an interest and released it on blu-ray. The film was made independently with funds from government grants and some funds from private investors and certainly has that low budget look to it (the transfer of it I saw looked pretty scratched up as a result). The movie concerns a woman in her late twenties who’s trying to “make it” as an art photographer in New York (back when that city was cheap) while a lot of her friends are marrying off and reproducing, leaving her feeling a bit lonely. It is not hard to see this, in basic concept, as a precursor to something like “Girls” or Frances Ha, which are not necessarily projects in recent memory that I’ve had much luck connecting to and for similar reasons I did not necessarily have the easiest time connecting to this one, but it does have plenty going for it. Melanie Mayron is an interesting choice of lead here as she has a very everywoman look to her but also has a certain wit to her that makes you want to root for her. This character is roughly the same age that my mother would have been in 1978 and seemly has a similar life trajectory of delaying marriage until the 1980s, so that was interesting but obviously the people making it probably weren’t intending for their movie to remind anyone of their parents. The bigger message is probably meant to be looking at the tension between married and unmarried people at this age, which is certainly a pretty evergreen tension in the lives of young people. Certainly an interesting an innovative film but in general there’s only so much enthusiasm I can ever muster for slice of life movies about unremarkable young people, it’s a genre that always strikes me as a touch narcissistic in its basic appeal to selling the lives cosmopolitan twenty somethings back to them as if they’re the center of the universe, but this one at least did it first and probably did it a bit better. ***1/2 out of Five
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