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Post by thebtskink on Jul 7, 2021 22:50:26 GMT -5
Layer Cake (2004)
At some point over the Game of Thrones run, I started watching my TV with subtitles telling myself I wasn't picking up the British manner of speaking. Subtitles did not prevent me from having to watch this movie twice, but I'm glad I did.
A previous producer for Guy Ritchie, Matthew Vaughn stepped in for his first director's credit on Layer Cake. I haven't seen much of his other work, and while there's certainly a ton of style here, I'm not sure if the substance pays off that promise. The second act drags a little, and we're treated multiple times to flashbacks showing us what the narration could have just told us. Michael Gambon and Colm Meany do a lot of good work, but you can tell Daniel Craig is still green around the edges. While the coked-out side characters are entertaining at first glance, the novelty wears off after a bit. The digital camera work zooming in and out of frame is nifty, but it tired by the third usage after an assassination.
Some of the murders and double-crosses are entertainingly staged enough to lift the work when its grinding to a halt, and while the Rolling Stone drop and lyricsa are egregiously placed, the excellent usage of Duran Duran notches this up a half point on its own. It's almost enough to make up for the sub-par and often irritating score.
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I watched Layer Cake many, many years ago when I was in college. I don't remember too much other than thinking it was a Guy Ritchie knockoff and damn was Guy Ritchie huge on the college scene in the mid-2000s. Snatch was on repeat in dorms everywhere. Anyways, I wasn't a big fan even though everyone else was and I was 'gay' for not liking it. To each their own I suppose.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 8, 2021 8:32:15 GMT -5
I watched Layer Cake many, many years ago when I was in college. I don't remember too much other than thinking it was a Guy Ritchie knockoff and damn was Guy Ritchie huge on the college scene in the mid-2000s. Snatch was on repeat in dorms everywhere. Anyways, I wasn't a big fan even though everyone else was and I was 'gay' for not liking it. To each their own I suppose. What a time capsule this is.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 9, 2021 12:54:50 GMT -5
No shit. I put that there mostly for kicks. Well if you're doing Geostorm then I have no choice but to dance to yours and 1godzillafan 's tune and do Tokyo Drift. Although I was secretly hoping you'd do Ugetsu. Not sure if you've seen it (you hadn't rated it on Letterboxd) but since you recommended me Sansho the Bailiff all those years ago I thought you might dig it since it's another Kenji Mizoguchi movie. If you have some downtime you should check it out, I really enjoyed it. It's on HBO Max and I think Criterion Channel.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 9, 2021 13:14:07 GMT -5
No shit. I put that there mostly for kicks. Well if you're doing Geostorm then I have no choice but to dance to yours and 1godzillafan 's tune and do Tokyo Drift. Although I was secretly hoping you'd do Ugetsu. Not sure if you've seen it (you hadn't rated it on Letterboxd) but since you recommended me Sansho the Bailiff all those years ago I thought you might dig it since it's another Kenji Mizoguchi movie. If you have some downtime you should check it out, I really enjoyed it. It's on HBO Max and I think Criterion Channel. I have seen Ugetsu (and High Sierra). My Letterboxed only covers movies I've seen since I started writing capsule reviews in 2008, anything I saw before then isn't going to be in there. Nightmare Alley wasn't available anywhere and while I could theoretically reserve Sergeant Rutledge from the library the goofy effects movie that's on HBO Max seemed like the path of least resistance. I might even live blog it here. Anyway, may the record show that my recommendation of Tokyo Drift is 80% ironic. It's easily the worst of the series and the only reason to watch it is to make sense of some plot twists later in the series.
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 9, 2021 16:40:50 GMT -5
No shit. I put that there mostly for kicks. Well if you're doing Geostorm then I have no choice but to dance to yours and 1godzillafan 's tune and do Tokyo Drift. Although I was secretly hoping you'd do Ugetsu. Not sure if you've seen it (you hadn't rated it on Letterboxd) but since you recommended me Sansho the Bailiff all those years ago I thought you might dig it since it's another Kenji Mizoguchi movie. If you have some downtime you should check it out, I really enjoyed it. It's on HBO Max and I think Criterion Channel. I have seen Ugetsu (and High Sierra). My Letterboxed only covers movies I've seen since I started writing capsule reviews in 2008, anything I saw before then isn't going to be in there. Nightmare Alley wasn't available anywhere and while I could theoretically reserve Sergeant Rutledge from the library the goofy effects movie that's on HBO Max seemed like the path of least resistance. I might even live blog it here. Anyway, may the record show that my recommendation of Tokyo Drift is 80% ironic. It's easily the worst of the series and the only reason to watch it is to make sense of some plot twists later in the series. I've actually been meaning to watch Reversal of Fortune for some time. If I have some free time I'll bump that to the top of the list after finishing Tokyo Drift. Unless you want to break this cycle of misery and I'll watch Reversal of Fortune and give you a different Geostorm-free list.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 9, 2021 16:42:28 GMT -5
Geostorm or bust
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Post by Doomsday on Jul 9, 2021 16:52:40 GMT -5
That's what I'm talkin about!
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Post by thebtskink on Jul 9, 2021 21:34:03 GMT -5
I've never seen Top Secret and its free to me, so let's do that one.
For you (all checked vs Canada's offerings). I can provide replacements if these are all seen and/or look crap to your tastes:
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 9, 2021 22:32:50 GMT -5
I've never seen Top Secret You fucking monster.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 9, 2021 22:37:31 GMT -5
I've never seen Top Secret and its free to me, so let's do that one.
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Wow, you did your research.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 10, 2021 14:49:13 GMT -5
Reposted for posterity Geostorm (2017)
Okay... that was... actually worse than I thought it would be. I was expecting this to just be a regular Roland Emmerich movie but with a slightly stupider concept to explain why all the destruction was going on but the movie I got was... fundamentally strange and yet not quite strange enough to really work as camp. I will give Dean Develin this, he seems to basically be in command of the fundamentals of filmmaking. The blocking, production values, and pacing here are about on par with what you'd expect from a Hollywood blockbuster and while I don't exactly like everyone in the cast they seem to mostly be doing what they can with the material given. The movie isn't intrinsically incompetent. I also don't think the basic premise with the weather altering satellites isn't a completely bad one and that something fun could have come out of that which would have been a little more interesting than the The Day After Tomorrow/2012 approach of "disasters are happening for reasons, lets move on." However, making a movie this silly in a way that's essentially straightforward takes a very particular kind of calibration. For whatever reason Emmerich seemed to be able to pull this off and Develin was not, and that's in part because Emmerich seems to actually understand that what he makes is destruction porn. His plots are simple because he wants to get them out of the way so he can give people the CGI wrecks they paid for, not really my kind of thing, but you can respect the hustle. Develin by contrast seems a lot less interested in destroying cities than he is in actually giving his protagonists a conspiracy to foil, which would have been an alright idea if he gave them politics or science that was even worth investing their interest in a little bit but he doesn't, he gives us inane bullshit. It's a movie that often feels like it falls on the same screenwriting formulas we're used to but its in service to this batshit concept and its playing out in ways that are straightforwardly ridiculous. On some level everyone involved should know this is nuts but they don't really betray that they're in on the joke. I think Develin knows that the movies he made in the past were also nonsense but I don't think he has Emmerich's knowledge of how far he can turn up the cheese factor without going too far... because he definitely goes too far here but not so far that it comes out the other side as something memorable or campy. It's like a project that Hollywood put on autopilot and expected to have make itself but then when they came back the next day to check on it something had gone horribly wrong... but instead of just embracing the mess they tried to save it in rather misguided ways. I don't recommend it. * out of FiveFor more thoughts, live reactions here: comingsoon.boards.net/thread/3686/dracula-live-blogs-geostorm
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 10, 2021 18:27:36 GMT -5
I think I'll go with The Hunt. That's been on my radar for a long time.
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Post by PG Cooper on Jul 10, 2021 18:39:13 GMT -5
Reposted for posterity Geostorm (2017)
Okay... that was... actually worse than I thought it would be. I was expecting this to just be a regular Roland Emmerich movie but with a slightly stupider concept to explain why all the destruction was going on but the movie I got was... fundamentally strange and yet not quite strange enough to really work as camp. I will give Dean Develin this, he seems to basically be in command of the fundamentals of filmmaking. The blocking, production values, and pacing here are about on par with what you'd expect from a Hollywood blockbuster and while I don't exactly like everyone in the cast they seem to mostly be doing what they can with the material given. The movie isn't intrinsically incompetent. I also don't think the basic premise with the weather altering satellites isn't a completely bad one and that something fun could have come out of that which would have been a little more interesting than the The Day After Tomorrow/2012 approach of "disasters are happening for reasons, lets move on." However, making a movie this silly in a way that's essentially straightforward takes a very particular kind of calibration. For whatever reason Emmerich seemed to be able to pull this off and Develin was not, and that's in part because Emmerich seems to actually understand that what he makes is destruction porn. His plots are simple because he wants to get them out of the way so he can give people the CGI wrecks they paid for, not really my kind of thing, but you can respect the hustle. Develin by contrast seems a lot less interested in destroying cities than he is in actually giving his protagonists a conspiracy to foil, which would have been an alright idea if he gave them politics or science that was even worth investing their interest in a little bit but he doesn't, he gives us inane bullshit. It's a movie that often feels like it falls on the same screenwriting formulas we're used to but its in service to this batshit concept and its playing out in ways that are straightforwardly ridiculous. On some level everyone involved should know this is nuts but they don't really betray that they're in on the joke. I think Develin knows that the movies he made in the past were also nonsense but I don't think he has Emmerich's knowledge of how far he can turn up the cheese factor without going too far... because he definitely goes too far here but not so far that it comes out the other side as something memorable or campy. It's like a project that Hollywood put on autopilot and expected to have make itself but then when they came back the next day to check on it something had gone horribly wrong... but instead of just embracing the mess they tried to save it in rather misguided ways. I don't recommend it. * out of FiveFor more thoughts, live reactions here: comingsoon.boards.net/thread/3686/dracula-live-blogs-geostormWe can only hope all of our recommendations are half as good.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 10, 2021 18:42:17 GMT -5
Reposted for posterity Geostorm (2017)
Okay... that was... actually worse than I thought it would be. I was expecting this to just be a regular Roland Emmerich movie but with a slightly stupider concept to explain why all the destruction was going on but the movie I got was... fundamentally strange and yet not quite strange enough to really work as camp. I will give Dean Develin this, he seems to basically be in command of the fundamentals of filmmaking. The blocking, production values, and pacing here are about on par with what you'd expect from a Hollywood blockbuster and while I don't exactly like everyone in the cast they seem to mostly be doing what they can with the material given. The movie isn't intrinsically incompetent. I also don't think the basic premise with the weather altering satellites isn't a completely bad one and that something fun could have come out of that which would have been a little more interesting than the The Day After Tomorrow/2012 approach of "disasters are happening for reasons, lets move on." However, making a movie this silly in a way that's essentially straightforward takes a very particular kind of calibration. For whatever reason Emmerich seemed to be able to pull this off and Develin was not, and that's in part because Emmerich seems to actually understand that what he makes is destruction porn. His plots are simple because he wants to get them out of the way so he can give people the CGI wrecks they paid for, not really my kind of thing, but you can respect the hustle. Develin by contrast seems a lot less interested in destroying cities than he is in actually giving his protagonists a conspiracy to foil, which would have been an alright idea if he gave them politics or science that was even worth investing their interest in a little bit but he doesn't, he gives us inane bullshit. It's a movie that often feels like it falls on the same screenwriting formulas we're used to but its in service to this batshit concept and its playing out in ways that are straightforwardly ridiculous. On some level everyone involved should know this is nuts but they don't really betray that they're in on the joke. I think Develin knows that the movies he made in the past were also nonsense but I don't think he has Emmerich's knowledge of how far he can turn up the cheese factor without going too far... because he definitely goes too far here but not so far that it comes out the other side as something memorable or campy. It's like a project that Hollywood put on autopilot and expected to have make itself but then when they came back the next day to check on it something had gone horribly wrong... but instead of just embracing the mess they tried to save it in rather misguided ways. I don't recommend it. * out of FiveFor more thoughts, live reactions here: comingsoon.boards.net/thread/3686/dracula-live-blogs-geostormWe can only hope all of our recommendations are half as good. I have plenty of recommendations that are half as good.
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