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Post by Neverending on Jul 26, 2019 15:37:33 GMT -5
#26Godzilla1998Premise: Nuclear tests in French Polynesia mutate a new breed of lizard, which grows to tremendous size and begins to migrate. It settles in New York City, as the United States Army enlists biologist Nick Tatopoulos to study the creature while they try to kill it. Nick begins to believe the situation may be worse than the Army realizes, and theorizes that the creature may have traveled to New York to build a nest and hatch a new generation of the species. Buy the Rifftrax commentary here.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 26, 2019 15:48:28 GMT -5
I almost tacked that on at the end. Then I was like, nah. I don't want to condone Puff Daddy/P Diddy/Pee Diddly or whatever he calls himself anymore.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 26, 2019 15:53:30 GMT -5
I remember the trailer for this had Godzilla step on the skeleton of a T-Rex.
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I remember the trailer for this had Godzilla step on the skeleton of a T-Rex.
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#25Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.2003
Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. is the English title and the International title. The original Japanese title is Godzilla X Mothra X Mechagodzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.
Premise: In the months after Godzilla and Kiryu fought each other to a stalemate, Mothra's twin fairy Shobijin surface again for the first time since 1961 (only Mothra's first film in in canon to this film) and insist that using the bones of the original Godzilla from 1954 that were used to create the "Mechagodzilla" Kiryu is disrupting the spirits of the dead, and they demand the bones be returned to their grave. The Japanese government ponders the request, but Godzilla surfaces again. To prevent the launch of Kiryu, the Shobijin call Mothra to Japan's aid. However, Mothra is near the end of her life cycle, soon to spawn a new larva, and she proves too weak to tackle the kaiju. The government has no choice but to dispatch Kiryu to help Mothra, which begins a kaiju war in the heart of Tokyo that lasts throughout the night.
I feel the Millennium series of Godzilla films gets a lot of undeserved flack. Most of them are fun, wildly entertaining films with a lot of energy. But I guess Godzilla was in the middle of a fatigue cycle at the time, and the 1998 Hollywood film just kind of sucked the air out of the room.
The Millennium film I like the least is actually one that seems to be more highly regarded, which is Tokyo S.O.S. This one just seems a bit slower than the others, and it doesn't really have much of a story. What story it has is set up in a half hour, which is a lead-up to a kaiju battle that lasts almost an hour of a ninety minute movie. It's probably the most action heavy Godzilla movie ever made. Seems like a dream come true? Well, be careful what you wish for.
I might have been more responsive to it if it tried for less nostalgia jabs. A lot of the Mothra plot points echo the film Godzilla vs. Mothra, and Tokyo S.O.S. is almost an unofficial remake for the most part. You just have to replace the giant egg from the 1964 film with Mechagodzilla. The film echos that movie so much that I find myself a little bored by it, because there are no surprises. The only variable here that affects any interest in anything is Kiryu, who has some fun brawling moments, but is a bit pussied up compared to him unleashed in Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla.
And that's also something about the movie that doesn't sit well with me. Spoiler alert for the upper section of this list, but I love Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla (I also love Godzilla vs. Mothra). I gave it's open ending a pass because I knew this film was on the horizon, but I find myself not enthused about Tokyo S.O.S. as a sequel to that film. Most of the cast of characters is dropped, including Miho Yoshioka's main character from that film, who is reduced to a "passing of the torch" cameo. Considering the climax of the previous film featured her respecting that there was a living spirit inside of Kiryu and the two found a way to work together, the fact that the movie abandons furthering that storyline here (which it definitely could have with this story) in favor of new characters that don't have the connection with Kiryu she had grinds my gears.
Plus there is no Absolute Zero cannon. Fuck that noise.
I like little things about this movie more than the whole. I think it's a very handsome looking movie, and I think the special effects are top notch, and it was probably second to none at that point in the series (Shin Godzilla probably blew it out of the water, though). The idea of a mostly uninterrupted royal rumble that lasts the majority of the movie is enticing too. This is also the last Godzilla movie that was scored by Michiru Oshima, who is one of my favorite Godzilla composers, second to Akira Ifukube, if we're being honest. I just love her themes so fucking much.
But for the most part when this movie ends, I always have that gutpunch of a "meh" feeling inside of me. I wish I liked it more, but it doesn't really inspire a lot in me.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 30, 2019 17:06:50 GMT -5
#24Godzilla vs. Biollante1989Premise: In the immediate aftermath of Godzilla being trapped in Mt. Mihara in 1984, Godzilla's DNA is recovered in Tokyo. The cells are then experimented on by Dr. Shiragami and is daughter, Erika, who try to combine them with plant cells to try and make deserted lands more fertile. But terrorists desire the Godzilla cells for their own use, and bomb the building, killing Erika. Five years later, Shiragami is recruited into using the Godzilla cells to create a bacteria that will combat Godzilla should he return, but Shiragami continues research with Godzilla cells and plants, which eventually mutate into a giant monster rose named Biollante, who Shiragami believes in inhabited by the soul of Erika. Meanwhile, the terrorists use controlled explosions to free Godzilla from Mt. Mihara, who rampages his way to Biollante. In a brief fight, Godzilla kills Biollante and continues to ravage Japan. The Self-Defense Force then goes on the offensive with their new flying weapon, Super-X 2, and their bacteria, which they hope will kill the monster. I have a friend who would never speak to me again if she found out I ranked this movie this low, as this is her favorite Godzilla movie by far and Biollante is her favorite kaiju. Promise not to tell her, m'kay? As for myself, this movie plays with so many cool ideas but never comes together as a whole for me. I like the genetic war angle, and how there are so many people who are out to get Godzilla's blood for their own ends. It could be a compelling storyline, though at times it feels the giant monsters are intrusive into it. Granted a Godzilla movie needs to have monsters in it, but I almost want to see an alternate version of this film that is just a human centered thriller that is spun-off of the Godzilla franchise, but not an actual monster movie. It seems like it would be much tighter and more focused like that. But by adding more fantasy elements to the storyline, the messier it becomes. Now we have this story and it has to make room for a giant lizard, but compensates by trying to use biological warfare against said lizard, which is a pretty badass storyline itself. But then they need the giant lizard fighting a giant plant. Then the story gets even more fantastical as it decides a giant mutant plant isn't enough, it has to make it spiritual also and be inhabited by a ghost. It's an interesting clash between science and spirituality, which isn't quite as nutty a tonal clash as the alien invasion vs. ancient island god of Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla, but it's on the same path. This story gets pretty crazy, and I don't think it realized it. It's a well made movie, not terribly well paced, but it's has good cinematography and the production is smartly put together. Biollante is an interesting monster, and has two different designs in the film, one based on a rose and another based on a venus fly trap. The second fight with Biollante is far more interesting than the first, as Biollante is far more aggressive in it and doesn't just keel over like in the first. I also enjoy the addition of Super-X 2, which is my favorite of the Super-X vehicles in the Godzilla flicks. It has a cool, sleek design, and the diamond mirror is unique and cool. It's not a Godzilla I found myself watching too often when I was at the height of my Godzilla fandom, but I didn't have many complaints about it when I did. It has a fanbase, and probably for a reason. It's not the first Godzilla movie I think of when I think of highlights from the series though.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 30, 2019 18:30:44 GMT -5
For the record, I'm seeing King of the Monsters again tonight. Doing what I can to combat the Disney monopoly.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 31, 2019 10:53:32 GMT -5
Is biolante in any of the other movies?
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Post by Deexan on Jul 31, 2019 11:18:11 GMT -5
I only actually own two movies: Donnie Darko (original cut, £1 in a discount store) and Interstellar, both on DVD.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 31, 2019 11:54:23 GMT -5
I only actually own two movies: Donnie Darko (original cut, £1 in a discount store) and Interstellar, both on DVD. Wrong thread
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Post by PhantomKnight on Jul 31, 2019 12:00:42 GMT -5
I only actually own two movies: Donnie Darko (original cut, £1 in a discount store) and Interstellar, both on DVD. Well, that's one way to stick it to Godzilla.
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I knew what I was doing.
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Also, we know you have the entire Christopher Nolan collection on Blu-Ray.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 31, 2019 13:08:33 GMT -5
Before Deexan rudely interrupted with his announcement that he wants Nolan to direct a Godzilla movie... Is biolante in any of the other movies? Just the one. Though she's mentioned in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and it's implied she's tied into the origin of SpaceGodzilla in Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla. Non-filmwise, she's been in the long out of print Random House novel Godzilla At World's End and I imagine she's also been in IDW's comic run, because they use every monster they can. Not caught up with that though.
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#23Godzilla vs. Hedorah1971Godzilla vs. Hedorah is the Japanese and International title to this film. In the original English version it was titled Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster. Premise: Earth's pollution has gotten out of hand, and result a new creature has mutated that feeds on it. This creature, dubbed Hedorah, is constantly mutating into various forms, eventually evolving from a sea creature to walking on land and flying in the air. Leaving acidic sludge and toxic gas in its wake wherever it goes, if Hedorah isn't stopped he could wipe out all of mankind. While mankind tries to deduce a weakness to the creature, Godzilla continually challenges Hedorah, but can Godzilla beat a creature that is toxic to not only all humans, but the King of the Monsters as well? Uh oh! It's getting groovy in here! It's those wacky 70's Godzilla flicks making a comeback on the list, of which aren't all bad. Mostly they're just dumb, but at their best moments they're dumb fun. Godzilla vs. Hedorah is one that I like in spite of its worst tendencies of being preachy without actually having a story. To be honest though, those worst tendencies kind of make me enjoy this flick more, because it's not just preachy, it's kind of incompetently preachy. Amusingly so. The story of why this is such an environmentalist movie is pretty well known in Godzilla circles. Most Godzilla flicks up until this point were directed by either Ishiro Honda or Jun Fukuda (the sole exception being the one and done Motoyoshi Oda of Godzilla Raids Again), but the reins of the franchise were put in the hands in relative newcomer Yoshimitsu Banno for this eleventh entry in the franchise, who puts a very pro-environment angle to most of his work. Godzilla's main producer, Tomoyuki Tanaka, was hospitalized throughout the production and unable to supervise the film, which gave Banno mostly free reign on it. When Tanaka saw the finished film, he hated it, and banned Banno from ever directing another Godzilla movie. In fact, Banno never directed another movie after this. I don't want to say Tanaka overreacted, because even when you consider the previous Godzilla film to be released was Godzilla's Revenge, this film is pretty weird. But still, Tanaka decided to "fix" the franchise by releasing films like Godzilla vs. Gigan and Godzilla vs. Megalon, so I don't really think he has much right to criticize this movie for "ruining Godzilla." If I were to give Banno credit for one thing, it's that he makes a decent use of scare tactics for his "pollution is bad" message. The imagery in this movie, while trippy, is horrifying. We see people's skin dissolve, become horribly scared for life, choke on toxic fumes, and doused in sludge. And if that isn't enough to convince you the environment is important, Banno throws in a kitten who's been nearly polluted to death. Some of this stuff is pretty fucked up, and it's the most graphic the Godzilla series has been since the original film. And yet, the tone can get wonky, which I think is partially the music's fault because it's stuck in that awkward period where the 60's is trying to turn in the 70's and it's trying to be hip. The movie's music in general is not very good, as Riichiro's Manabe's Godzilla themes are probably the worst of the entire series. Godzilla's main theme makes it sound like he's downed twenty beers and can't stand up. The one highlight of the music is the "upfront about our theme" title song, Save the Earth, which is one of the few songs in a Godzilla movie that was actually translated to English for a dub (which is only available in the original Smog Monster dub of the film). The movie also goes into some strange corners to find its own "artistic merit." Every once in a while the movie stops in its tracks to show a quirky cartoon to help the audience understand what they're trying to say Hedorah is doing, though this is really just talking down to anybody who's been following the plot. Even not taking these little animations into account, there is something strangely abstract about this movie. It is at times feels a surreal fever dream, or a trip from some really bad weed. Probably the case in point for that last thing is the moment at the end where Godzilla goes full Gamera, as he curls up into a fetal position, fires his atomic breath, and lifts off to fly after Hedorah. This is probably the biggest WTF moment in the history of Godzilla movies, and it is glorious. If I were a more serious Godzilla fan (and I don't know why I would be, I mean...c'mon) this moment might bug me, but instead it's the icing on the cake. As an interesting aside to this movie, despite being banned from ever making another Godzilla movie, Banno had always wanted to make another one. Originally he wanted to do a direct sequel to this film, but was fired before he could begin production. Years after Tanaka had died and during the period where Toho had put Godzilla on hiatus post-2004, Banno requested the rights to the character to create a 40 minute IMAX film titled Godzilla 3D to the MAX, which would also be a pro-environment themed Godzilla movie using the tried and true rubber suit style. Banno's hunt for American producers led him to Legendary Pictures' Thomas Tull, who became so interested in producing a Godzilla movie, that he renegotiated the deal with Toho to do a brand new American franchise that led to the development of 2014 film, which also got Toho interested in revitalizing the character with Shin Godzilla and future projects. So in reality, we have both Banno and Godzilla vs. Hedorah to thank for the latest Godzilla resurgence. Thank you, Banno. That fucking anime trilogy was all your fault.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 1, 2019 19:28:00 GMT -5
#22Godzilla: Final Wars2004 Premise: Humanity wages one last stand against Godzilla in the Arctic, trapping him underneath the ice and putting him in hibernation, hopefully permanently. Many years later, monsters still surface around the globe, which humanity counter attacks with a their own counter-monster army full of trained superhuman officers known as "Mutants." Eventually, a group of aliens known as the Xillians land on Earth, identifying themselves as friends of mankind. It doesn't take long for their true intentions to be revealed, as it's a thinly veiled invasion on the human race, which they dub as "cattle." The Xillians later reveal that all of Earth's Mutants were planted on the world with an M-base gene that allows the Xillians to control them, which is also present in most of Earth's monsters. As the Mutants turn on their fellow humans, the Xillians let the monsters Rodan, Anguirus, King Caesar, Kamacuras, Kumonga, Ebirah, Hedorah, and Zilla loose on the major cities of the world, led by their space creature Gigan. The humans turn to Captain Douglas Gordon, the man who trapped Godzilla under the ice, for help, who proposes they unleash Godzilla and use him to counterattack the Monsters and the Xillians. They execute their plan, and Godzilla kills Gigan, and follows the airship Gotengo from city to city on a campaign to take back the world in what has been dubbed mankind's "Final War." Godzilla will not fight this war alone though, as the Earth protector Mothra has been called to action as well. But the Xillians have one last monster up their sleeve, the sinister Monster X, which is heading to Earth in the meantime.
This is the big polarizing one in Godzilla's legacy. There are a large group of fans who rabidly love it and will get very aggressive about it, as well as a large group of fans who rabidly hate it and will get very aggressive about it. It's only a movie. Chillax, guys.
Final Wars falls a bit in the middle for me. I had a lot of fun the first time I saw it, but I don't think it has much replay value. But I can't deny being entertained the first time, and I'll be damned if I don't find the movie's zippiness a little contagious. The best way I can describe it is that it's the Godzilla franchise's Die Another Day, the big anniversary movie that was labeled a love letter to the fans, only to be so over-the-top that some fans were like...
There are a lot of references to previous Godzilla films here, so much so that you could have sworn they had just put all the other movies in a blender and this movie popped out. The Xillians themselves are based heavily on the Planet X aliens from Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, while the premise of aliens turning all of Earth's monsters on humanity itself borrows heavily from Destroy All Monsters and the concept of Godzilla being trapped in the ice is taken directly from Godzilla Raids Again. The Gotengo ship from Atragon is here too, which is neat. That's not strictly a Godzilla reference but rather a genre reference. Then there are a lot of monsters that are staples in the Godzilla franchise peeking their head in, such as Mothra, Rodan, and a form of Ghidorah (dubbed "Kaiser Ghidorah") in Monster X, while there are also some faces that we haven't seen in a very, very long time, such as Gigan, Anguirus, King Caesar ( ::shudder:: ), Ebirah, Hedorah (very "blink and you miss it" with this one), Kamacuras, and Kumonga. Godzilla's Revenge gets the strangest nod of the movie, because there is a subplot featuring a grandfather and his grandson leading Godzilla's son Minilla to find his father, and when they get there, Minilla grows from human size to monster size because of course he can. Godzilla's Revenge had the excuse of being a dream, but other than being a "reference," this movie just made itself seem even crazier for no reason.
If that's not enough franchise references for you, the 1998 Godzilla cameos here as well. The CG monstrosity attacks Sidney, Australia, and then is one of the first monsters mercilessly taken out by the King, in a segment the DVD copy of this film humorously titled "Pretender to the Throne."
Yes, that WAS Sum 41's All to Blame as the soundtrack. Whose going to stop this movie, you?
I don't know if it explains anything, but the movie was directed by Ryuhei Kitamura. He's directed one movie in the States, and that was the almost deemed unmarketable title The Midnight Meat Train. At the time in Japan he was making some tiny waves and was thought of to be the next "hot thing." He turned heads with a nutty little movie called Versus, which if you haven't seen it is even more insane than Final Wars, which was about guys who know martial arts and carry guns fighting zombies who know martial arts and carry guns. He also did the samurai manga adaptation Azumi, which is a little tamer than other Kitamura flicks but climaxed with a kickass battle in which the main heroine slaughters an army of a hundred men single handed (damn, I just made myself want to watch Azumi again). With Final Wars, Kitamura was given an insane budget, the highest for any Japanese Godzilla movie at the time (it might have been topped by Shin Godzilla, I'm not sure) and told to go nuts. Boy did he go nuts.
The intent was to make the ultimate Godzilla movie blowout, though the film didn't exactly capture the interest of the Japanese public, which was a little burnt out on Toho's Godzilla roll out at the time. The film had the lowest attendance of the Millennium series and the lowest attendance the Godzilla series has seen since Terror of Mechagodzilla in 1975 (the only other Godzilla movie that churned out this little interest was Godzilla vs. Megalon). Did it deserve to tank? Probably. Objectively it's a bad movie, but the thing is it wants the viewer to watch it through a certain lens. Not everyone wants to wear that lens though, or even have it in their possession. I think for what it was trying to do, it succeeded. It was just trying to be a very stupid action cyclone where Godzilla is the goddamn Steven Seagal of monsters and just pummels through everything in his way. Whatever else you can say about this movie, it certainly is that.
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#21King Kong vs. Godzilla1962Premise: A pharmaceutical company sponsors an exposition to Faro Island to find a natural narcotic berry and to investigate the possible existence of an island god named "Kong." Begrudgingly allowed to stay by the natives, the expedition finds that Kong is actually a massive ape that feeds on the berries. After being put to sleep by the berries, the group capture Kong and attempt to bring him back to the mainland, only to have Kong escape. Meanwhile, Godzilla frees himself from the iceberg he had been imprisoned in and beelines straight to Japan. This puts the two monsters on a collision course that could leave Japan in rubble. It's probably about time we got to another Ishiro Honda film on this list, as the man directed eight films in the franchise, which is a sizable chunk (Jun Fukuda made five, Takao Okawara made four). But the problem is that most of his films were the most entertaining Godzilla films in the legacy, so it was probably always going to take a while to get to these. Except Godzilla's Revenge. Just no, to that movie. Of the rest of Honda's filmography, I'm going to say King Kong vs. Godzilla is my least favorite of the Father of Godzilla's tenure. The movie is a bit of a cartoon in it's execution, with a very exaggerated style and hammy performances by certain characters. A lot of it is associated with King Kong's storyline, with some very silly stabs at humor, and a goofy parody of an entrepreneur character in Mr. Tako. And then there is the whole way they get Kong off the island, where they put the monkey to sleep, build a giant raft out of wood, tie him up, and just drag him back through the ocean. I'm starting to think some of this is a little silly. Godzilla's half is more of an angry beast taking a stroll, who is very irritable toward everyone in his way. It's pretty straightforward, but the movie doesn't really go out of its way to try and get him from point A to point B, because G is just wandering around, basically. But this is a very early depiction of Godzilla, who isn't a heroic character in the slightest. He doesn't like people, people don't like him. It's a fairly pure 'Zilla depiction at its heart. The movie's cartoonish nature also becomes a strength too, because it's so tongue-in-cheek absurd that it transcends being silly into a sort of kitsch experience that works if you roll with it (though, one can say this about most Godzilla movies, especially the last two I listed). If you stay in step with it, it becomes easier to forgive some of its weaker aspects, such as the costumes of the monsters themselves. Kong's costume looks like it was left underneath a refrigerator for about a year. Godzilla seems to be an attempt to make the creature look closer to a crocodile than he previously did, but while certain angles look good, head-on he looks very dumpy. But they style of the film has a hyperreality to it and because of that I can accept how fake it looks. I can even accept the race-bending skintone bodypaint most of the natives wear... This is probably technically blackface, but I don't care because boobies and hula. This is also the first Godzilla film in color, which was a long time coming because Toho toku films have been using color since Rodan in 1956. It's also the first Godzilla film in widescreen, which Toho toku films had been using since The Mysterians in 1957. This is also a pair of firsts for King Kong, but Kong hadn't been in a film since 1933, so he was due for an update. But you can say the same for Godzilla too, who had a franchise that had been in hibernation since 1955. Kong had a enduring legacy, while Godzilla had a popular film though it didn't yet develop the clout that Kong had built up. In many ways, King Kong vs. Godzilla helped make both franchises explode and woke both franchises from hibernation. It probably can be argued that the popularity of King Kong vs. Godzilla helped turn Godzilla into the franchise it would become, as it kickstarted even more sequels featuring the big guy. So I suppose it could be argued it's one of the most important Godzilla movies ever made. Edit: I'm adding in some neglected notes about the American edit, which runs shorter but has added scenes featuring an American newscaster named Eric Carter (inspiration for Eric Cartman?) commentating on world events, pretty much explaining the plot to us in case we were too lazy to watch the damn movie. The majority of Akira Ifukube's wonderful score has been removed, with the exception of the native chants. Instead Universal International replaced the music with stuff from their own stock library to make it sound less "Asian." The most notable soundtrack featured is that of Creature from the Black Lagoon. Contrary to popular belief, the ending to the American version is not different than the one in Japan. Both films end with the titans falling into the ocean and Kong surfacing to swim away, while Godzilla's fate is unknown. The only difference between the two is that the Japanese version ends with audio roars from both monsters, while the American edit removes Godzilla's and ends with only Kong's.
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Post by IanTheCool on Aug 3, 2019 10:12:16 GMT -5
I havent been able to find this one. But with the criterion set coming out, perhaps my library will have it more available
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I havent been able to find this one. But with the criterion set coming out, perhaps my library will have it more available Supposedly, it’ll be the Japanese version which has never been available in the States.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 3, 2019 14:23:37 GMT -5
Yep, the Criterion disc will be the first time this movie will be available in Japanese in the US. It's also the last Godzilla movie that needed an official Japanese language release.
If the Criterion version doesn't have the English version, Universal has it on DVD and blu-ray for dirt cheap. These discs are actually pretty good looking, though no bonuses.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2019 15:21:43 GMT -5
the Criterion disc will be the first time this movie will be available in Japanese in the US. Who owns the rights? I can talk to my boss about booking it at some art houses/revival theatres. Get the word out before the Warner Bros shit-fest.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 3, 2019 18:57:58 GMT -5
the Criterion disc will be the first time this movie will be available in Japanese in the US. Who owns the rights? I can talk to my boss about booking it at some art houses/revival theatres. Get the word out before the Warner Bros shit-fest. Dude, if King Kong vs. Godzilla starts playing in theaters, I'll be there. Universal has US distribution of the film, but the only print of the film they they actually own itself is the English cut. From what I gather, the reason the Japanese version was never released on US shores was because Universal would have had to pay Toho for a print of that version, and their attitude was basically "Why bother when we already have a print?" To get book the Japanese version you'd probably have to go to Universal first and then to Toho for the version of the film you want, so you'd probably wind up paying two different studios.
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Post by Neverending on Aug 3, 2019 19:38:16 GMT -5
Universal has US distribution of the film, but the only print of the film they they actually own itself is the English cut. If Universal has the rights, they’ll just use a DCP.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Aug 3, 2019 20:41:11 GMT -5
#20Godzilla vs. Gigan1972Godzilla vs. Gigan is the film's International title. It was released in Japan as Earth Destruction Directive: Godzilla vs. Gigan, while in the United States it was released as Godzilla on Monster Island, for some reason. Godzilla doesn't really spend much time on Monster Island in this movie, but whatever. Premise: Comic artist Gengo finds himself looking for work after being unable to sell his concepts for comic monsters to his publisher: Shukra, the Monster of Homework, and Mamagon, the Monster of Strict Mothers. He takes his ideas to the Children's Land amusement park where they hire him to develop his concepts. One day he bumps into a pair of hippies, Machiko and Shosaku, who are desperate for help and really like corn. Machiko asks Gengo for help finding her missing brother, who worked for Children's Land and she suspects is still inside as a prisoner. Gengo investigates, finds her brother, and frees him, as they discover that the Chairman of Children's Land and those working for him are actually alien cockroaches from outer space who seek to colonize Earth. They call upon the space monsters Gigan and King Ghidorah to lay waste to mankind so they can build their own civilization. However, Godzilla and Anguirus have been alerted to the mayhem and are on their way to Japan to fight the giant beasts. In many ways I'm sure Godzilla vs. Gigan is probably the most poorly made Godzilla movie of the entire series. The movie is a mismash of stitched together stock footage that doesn't always work, as they set the final monster battle of the film at night, but use stock clips of daytime scenes and are forced to darken them in hopes it looks like night but...it don't, bruh. Add that into the fact that the Godzilla suits used are in very poor condition. The Godzilla suit on land is the same suit the series has been using since 1968, but is so beaten up that you can see chunks fall off of it on screen. When Godzilla is in water, it's the suit from Son of Godzilla, which has gotten so waterlogged over the years that it looks dead-eyed and bloated. The movie doesn't even have a real musical score, which instead recycles a bunch of Akira Ifukube themes from previous films. You can tell they made this movie on the cheap, had to cut corners, and struggled to make it coherent. This movie is so much stupid fun though. I enjoy this Frankenstein monster of a movie every single time. Godzilla vs. Gigan is so fucking out there, man. You have these space cockroaches who want to take over the world, and go down the route of disguising themselves as humans and working at amusement park that claims "world peace" is its goal. They lead the charade for lord knows how long and then just bring monsters down. They could have led with that, but nah. AND they have a building that was modeled after Godzilla that shoots lasers! Fuck yes! As dumb as it gets, I'm amused by its silliness, and it's comic book influence is an enjoyable aesthetic. I've always had a soft spot for Gigan. I think he has a cool design, and I actually think he comes off as a badass in this movie. This Swiss Army Monster has blades at every corner and isn't shy about using them. He is the first monster that made Godzilla bleed (though, to be fair, Hedorah did fuck him up pretty bad), and the fight at the end portrays Godzilla pretty dazed an exhausted. If you ignore the stock footage, that third act is pretty hardcore. Oh, by the way, the English version is worth checking out. Because it has this... That's right. If you watch the English version, Godzilla is DUBBED. It is the funniest thing in the world. Though the true English version doesn't have the speech bubbles, which actually is a part of the Japanese print depicting how they communicated without dubbed over verbal exchange. Godzilla vs. Gigan is purely for the Godzilla fans who love so-bad-it's-good movies This one tickles me so much, and I can pop it in on a rainy day and just instantly feel better about what ails me.
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