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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 19, 2019 8:47:43 GMT -5
Same with King Kong, which has a lot of marquee clout over in Japan as well. They love that giant monkey.
I've always been somewhat fascinated by how popular Mothra is, as she's very unconventional within Toho's kaiju lore that they set up. Her appeal always seemed to be a glimpse into the Japanese fantastical genre mindset. I'm impressed they tried to adapt it for Western audiences at all for the new Godzilla movie, as she always struck me as purely an Asian thing. Didn't stop me from getting the feels though.
She's also the only kaiju to ever get her own movies after crossing over with Godzilla (other than Kong). Those 90's Mothra movies aimed squarely at those kids who were 100% invested in the mythology, though they don't have much appeal to anyone else.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 21, 2019 16:41:24 GMT -5
Why should we take our kids out and see Toy Story 4 when we got a perfectly good DVD of The Little Unicorn at home? You know what, maybe we should have gone to see Toy Story instead. Meanwhile Little Unicorn is my latest Rifftrax review. Not just unicorns today, the toys come to life in a short that's...also not Toy Story. But we have fairies, wimps, and Santa in Santa and the Fairy Snow Queen!
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Post by Neverending on Jun 21, 2019 23:29:14 GMT -5
Why should we take our kids out and see Toy Story 4 when we got a perfectly good DVD of The Little Unicorn at home? You know what, maybe we should have gone to see Toy Story instead. Meanwhile Little Unicorn is my latest Rifftrax review. Not just unicorns today, the toys come to life in a short that's...also not Toy Story. But we have fairies, wimps, and Santa in Santa and the Fairy Snow Queen! Wrong thread
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jun 21, 2019 23:54:51 GMT -5
Fuck this shit.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 22, 2019 12:15:01 GMT -5
Top 29?
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 22, 2019 22:01:11 GMT -5
I'm getting there. I was going to post one the other day...but decided sleep was more important.
If I have time tonight, I'll try and hammer one out.
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Post by Neverending on Jul 22, 2019 22:17:08 GMT -5
I'm getting there. I was going to post one the other day...but decided sleep was more important. If I have time tonight, I'll try and hammer one out. You’ll sleep when you’re dead
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 22, 2019 22:42:15 GMT -5
I'm getting there. I was going to post one the other day...but decided sleep was more important. If I have time tonight, I'll try and hammer one out. You’ll sleep when you’re dead I'm already dead.
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Post by Deexan on Jul 22, 2019 22:44:50 GMT -5
Dead tired
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Post by Neverending on Jul 22, 2019 22:47:41 GMT -5
You’ll sleep when you’re dead I'm already dead. And yet, I see no Godzilla ranking. You were less useless when you were alive.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 22, 2019 23:07:58 GMT -5
And yet, I see no Godzilla ranking. You were less useless when you were alive. Well, at least I'm good at being useless. I've never achieved much else.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 23, 2019 18:16:09 GMT -5
A lot of my free time lately I've been trying to devote to my blog (and some private things in my life, which lean toward positive at the moment, but time will tell). And then there was last night, where I was so tired that I took a two hour nap, watched YouTube for a half hour after that, then rolled over and slept for another nine hours after that. I'm tired, yo. Anyway, I had anticipated working on my blog this afternoon and stream and take notes of Joe Bob Briggs off of Shudder, but internet is wonky again and that went down the toilet (even when my internet is up, streaming is a pain in my ass). So here I sit, pissed off at those little wi-fi signals that suck so bad in Idaho, and stewing. But I still have a mobile hotspot and unlimited data, so I might as well type SOMETHING out! #29Godzilla: City on the Edge of Battle2018Original title in Japan translates to numerous things and all of them look like word salad. Let's just say it's called City on the Edge of Battle also. Premise: After the original Godzilla unearths and reveals itself to be still alive and astoundingly large 300 meters tall, humanity takes refuge in the facility that housed the experimental Mechagodzilla, which has been mutated into a "Mechagodzilla City" via nanotechnology. I'm hard on these anime films. And they deserve it. They squander so much about the Godzilla legacy and rework it into inane psychobabble, and leave the giant monsters to the sidelines while they shoot their own potentially interesting stories in the foot. The one thing that can save a bad Godzilla movie is good monster action. I mean, Mechagodzilla City? For fuck's sake... If I were to cite a "favorite" among the group, I'd probably hold the second one to higher esteem than the first and third. At least it was the one I felt the least irritated while watching. I enjoyed how the film explored this new lore of a planet that had been ruled by kaiju for 10,000 years and seeing little links between traditional Godzilla portrayals and it, such as the natives being an evolution of the concept of the Infant Island natives in Mothra (which is spelled out with twin ladies among them). When it's presenting something new, I found myself a little intrigued too. Mechagodzilla City isn't an unappealing concept, it's just a nutty attempt at an incarnation of Mechagodzilla. The conflict of the city assimilating those who enter it is a fairly good human conflict and provides proper tension for the third act between those who desire it and those who fight against it. Probably the basic problem with City on the Edge of Battle is that it probably shouldn't be a Godzilla movie. Godzilla lumbers around for the duration and gets fired upon in the climax, before firing his heat beam back because his character model is too bloody immobile to do anything else. If you aren't going to use Godzilla, why is he here? This goes back to the point of my first paragraph, though. Telling a human story in the Godzilla universe isn't an impossible task, but it's one that you must proceed with caution on. If you fail, and your Godzilla action isn't good enough to fall back on, your movie sucks. I'm tired of talking about these movies, though, and I'm glad this is the last time I will on this list. It's time to bitch about some REAL Godzilla movies.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 24, 2019 9:17:19 GMT -5
So, don't bother with the anime. got it.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 24, 2019 17:18:02 GMT -5
#28Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla1974
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla is both the Japanese title and the International title. The English release title was the much more boring as fuck Godzilla vs. the Cosmic Monster. That title was actually an alteration on what the English distributors wanted, which was Godzilla vs. the Bionic Monster, but the guys who owned The Bionic Woman sued, so they went with Cosmic Monster instead. I guess they wanted to keep the Mechagodzilla reveal a surprise, though I would argue Mechagodzilla is the bloody selling point of the movie. Premise: A prophecy is foretold of a great monster coming to destroy the world and the only being that can stop it is the mystical creature King Caesar, with the aid of a fellow Earth monster. Soon after, Godzilla arises and starts destroying cities, leaving mankind confused as to how the friendly Godzilla could turn on them even though destroying cities is totally what he did not even ten years ago. After Godzilla brutalizes Anguirus, another Godzilla arises to challenge the evil Godzilla, leaving mankind even more perplexed. The rampaging Godzilla is soon revealed to be a mechanical clone, Mechagodzilla, and severely wounds the King of the Monsters. Mechagodzilla is being controlled by ape aliens from the "Third Planet from the Black Hole" (okay then), who are using the metal beast to take over the world. A group of humans then race through the signs of the prophecy to awaken King Caesar to Challenge Mechagodzilla, while Godzilla recuperates. I hate King Caesar. I hate his immobile puppy face. I hate that the only thing he does is reflector eyes. I hate the fact that he's bloody useless in the final battle and does absolutely nothing while Godzilla lays a beatdown on Mechagodzilla. This movie hypes this monster up so much then when it's forced to deliver, it lets out a rancid fart. Fuck you, King Caesar, you leg-humping son of a bitch. It's possible that if the movie delivered a better kaiju payoff than this shitstain of a monster, I might enjoy Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla more. The Godzilla bouts with Mechagodzilla are mostly entertaining, though Godzilla pulling some magnet ability out of his ass at the end starts to camp things up a bit too much. There's a kooky mysticism vs. space alien technology storyline, which is kind of fun but really out there. The prophecy storyline has some neat visual cues that lead our human heroes too. That said, the movie is very dreary. It feels like it's sleepwalking half the time, and I'm struggling to stay awake. It's a movie about alien monkeys with a giant robo-lizard, for fuck's sake! Why is the storyline coming off this dull? The acting doesn't invoke any involvement from me as an audience member, and there is a full five minute segment at the beginning of the third act where the movie just stops in its tracks so a character can sing a song at a sleeping monster. Also the worst kaiju ever. God, just fuck King Caesar. I know this movie has its fans, but some of this stuff just builds up. And it has King Caesar too. King Caesar just shouldn't be a thing.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2019 17:39:12 GMT -5
Way, way, way too low.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 24, 2019 18:13:51 GMT -5
My loathing of King Caesar is trying to make me rank it lower.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2019 18:42:59 GMT -5
My loathing of King Caesar is trying to make me rank it lower. How you gonna hate on King Caesar? That's like picking on crippled kid, it's not his fault he's special.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 24, 2019 19:04:27 GMT -5
My loathing of King Caesar is trying to make me rank it lower. How you gonna hate on King Caesar? That's like picking on crippled kid, it's not his fault he's special. Gabara is the special ed kaiju. King Caesar is the loafing jackass in the back of the class.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2019 19:32:26 GMT -5
Nah man, Gabara is just a lame asshole who beats up on kids because he's too much of a pussy to fight anyone his own size.
King Caesar, by contrast, is like, that kid who just really really wants to help out and he's kind of shit at it and maybe technically just gets in the way but his heart is in the right place so you can't help but be won over.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 24, 2019 20:36:35 GMT -5
Gabara lashes out because of his learning disability. He's not likeable, but he's on the spectrum.
King Caesar gets put on a team, then goes "You got this!" and gives a thumbs up.
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Post by Dracula on Jul 24, 2019 22:40:23 GMT -5
Gabara lashes out because of his learning disability. He's not likeable, but he's on the spectrum. King Caesar gets put on a team, then goes "You got this!" and gives a thumbs up. Nah man, I'll grant you that King Caesar was a bit of a draft bust, but people hold him to an unfair standard. After ten minutes of J-pop to wake him up they just throw him into the fight with no preperation, of course he's going to get his ass kicked. What do we expect? But you can't say he didn't put himself on the line to try to defeat MechaGodzilla and the alien gorillas controlling him.
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Post by IanTheCool on Jul 24, 2019 23:05:44 GMT -5
This is the best internet argument ever.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 25, 2019 16:12:07 GMT -5
I attribute it as sparking the flame that caused the Showa series to become Criterion's spine 1000. So job well done, Dracula. I'll try and post another tonight. Next one is a silly one, and I expect a lot of shit for ranking it higher than Mechagodzilla. Probably justified too.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 25, 2019 20:02:30 GMT -5
#27Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla1994Premise: Using the telepathic gifts of Miki Sagusa, G-Force concocts a plan to try and enhance her brainwaves to control Godzilla how they see fit. Their plan is interuped before it can be fully developed, because somehow Godzilla's DNA winds up in space, goes through a black hole and comes out a white hole (don't ask me to explain it further), and mutates into a cosmic creature resembling the King of the Monsters. SpaceGodzilla makes his way down to Earth where he challenges Godzilla and imprisons his son, Little Godzilla. G-Force must abandon their plans and pilot their new giant robot, MOGUERA, to help Godzilla destroy the new beast. Objectively Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla is one of the worst movies in the franchise. It's a half-baked story that was rushed into production, features probably the most gloriously fakey special effects of the Heisei era, and just in general makes no goddamn sense. But I'll confess to being a little bit charmed by its nonsensical vomited-up storyline and goofball presentation. There are elements here that I think show promise, but aren't given any ample room to develop. I like the character of Yuki, and how he has some sort of death wish vendetta against Godzilla, and I am endeared to how he chases the monster around and tries to kill him single handed. Whether his plan to kill Godzilla by shooting him in the armpit with a bullet full of blood coagulant has any basis in reality, I'm not the one to answer that, but it's a Godzilla movie. Reality was flung out the door long ago. This movie also gives Megumi Odaka's character of Miki Sagusa the most to do out of all the films she's been featured in (she's the longest recurring character out of any of the Godzilla movies, at six films). It's too bad that all it amounts to is her being whiney about people being mean to Godzilla and being a damsel in distress later in the film. Speaking of that bit, there's a subplot in this film that really goes nowhere and furthers nothing in the film, in which Miki is kidnapped by the Yakuza so they can use her to control Godzilla, which was something that backfired on G-Force by blowing up their equipment. The mole science guy that kidnaps her restrains her and does the exact same thing he did on the island, then gets all pissy when he gets the exact same result. Miki then pulls telekinetic powers out of her ass to help her rescuers get her out of there, though I feel this movie misses a golden opportunity to let Miki go Carrie on everyone's ass. Now that's a Godzilla movie worth watching. Oh yeah, and I guess Miki has a romantic sublot with a G-Force officer, which is just them getting into arguments over whether it's right to control Godzilla throughout the movie. Then at the end of the movie they're holding hands while strolling on the beach and I suddenly realize "Ohhhhhh.....that was supposed to be sexual tension...must be a Japanese thing." I'm sure they spent the next few weeks fucking like jackrabbits, only to breakup because they can't stop whining at each other. This is probably likely since her G-Force fling is nowhere to be found in the next movie. As for Godzilla, I like the idea of using Miki's telepathic link to the creature and trying to weaponize it, and the first act of the film plays with it fairly well, though it drifts off and evaporates after the Yakuza subplot farts off. Godzilla's vendetta with SpaceGodzilla is decent, as Little Godzilla's predicament is humiliating and cruel, though I think it makes SpaceGodzilla a little too human-like. SpaceGodzilla is a good looking design, though his motives or intentions are unclear. The movie presents a hypothesis as to why he exists, which is somehow both mindblowingly thought out yet frustratingly vague at the same time. It's funny how they try to justify how he was created by giving two scenarios where Godzilla's cells floated out into space, once when Biollante ascended and another after Mothra battled Godzilla and went to space immediately afterward, while letting the audience figure out which one was what happened. I think the movie wants us to believe it was Biollante's scenario, since SpaceGodzilla shares similar facial features to her final form, but in the end this entire scene is trying to justify that they have a space monster that looks exactly like Godzilla, and they're doing a shit job at it too. I'd like to see an alternate version of this movie in which all of this is dropped and SpaceGodzilla were actually Gigan instead, where they don't have to explain the giant metal, space chicken and just accept that it's there. Also here is the new mech, MOGUERA, based on a space robot from The Mysterians. I'm not entirely sure why G-Force thinks MOGUERA is a step up from the obviously more advanced Mechagodzilla from the previous film, but I have a soft spot for the clunky POS. I like that it's a combiner of a flying vehicle and a giant drill, making the movie feel even more like Power Rangers. At lot of the movie's clunkiest special effects are at the expense of this thing, including a laughably bad space battle in an asteroid field. Though, it's giving MOGUERA too much credit to say that he's the only one with bad effects work, since SpaceGodzilla's crystals never look like anything else other than plastic and there's even a scene where the tip of Godzilla's tail falls off on camera. As if I needed more evidence that this movie is all over the map, Mothra has a storyline here too. And like everything else in this damn movie, it goes absolutely nowhere. Mothra sends down little fairy Mothras to help the Cosmos twins communicate with Miki and warn her of SpaceGodzilla. It's easy to forget these things are a thing in the movie, because they contribute very little. Every once in a while a little plush toy on a string flops down in front of her and they have a chat. At the end of the movie, the Cosmos say in monotone "Congratulations! You've saved planet Earth!" Cool. I'm so glad we needed them to tell us this. Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla is a very bad, very stupid movie. It also takes a certain kind of bad film lover to see the little things about it that are amusing, even if the whole is a mess. I can pop in this one on a rainy day. Sometimes I regret it. Sometimes I laugh and accept it.
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Post by 1godzillafan on Jul 26, 2019 15:30:54 GMT -5
#26Godzilla1998Premise: Nuclear tests in French Polynesia mutate a new breed of lizard, which grows to tremendous size and begins to migrate. It settles in New York City, as the United States Army enlists biologist Nick Tatopoulos to study the creature while they try to kill it. Nick begins to believe the situation may be worse than the Army realizes, and theorizes that the creature may have traveled to New York to build a nest and hatch a new generation of the species. Buy the Rifftrax commentary here.
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